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    Call of Duty: Black Ops

    Game » consists of 19 releases. Released Nov 09, 2010

    The seventh installment of the long-running action franchise, Call of Duty: Black Ops puts players into the early era of the Cold War (including the Vietnam War) as a member of the United States black operations unit known as the SOG.

    Evidence that this game will be significantly better than MW2?

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    #1  Edited By Westrunner

    Proud to say I haven't given Activision a dime since Modern Warfare and I will keep it that way unless this game is somehow amazing. My sense is that although Kotick clearly has surgically implanted bombs in the skulls of Treyarch employees designed to detonate if the Metacritic score is <90, I haven't heard or seen anything that gives me hope that this will be anything other than another Modern Warfare clone from Treyarch. And best indications are that it was completely rushed. I'd love to be convinced otherwise, why are some of you hopeful? I grant that some of the new game modes sound cool, but I think a compelling storyline and excellent fundamental multiplayer are musts.

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    #2  Edited By Soap

    No one can ever give you evidence that this game will be good, it's all subjective as it's going to come down to opinion at the end of the day. If you don't like it don't play it, but you seem to have at least a small intrest in it so give it a go.

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    #3  Edited By BunkerBuster

    I don't know if you know this but they included Ballistic Knives in the game. I know that's pretty vague so I'll go ahead and explain it better, ITS A KNIFE THAT SHOOTS KNIVES and you kill their owners with it.
    It's also a fantastic game if you enjoy stabbing people in the face and neck. You can even run up to people Shank style like Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh! It's oddly satisfying.

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    #4  Edited By sagesebas
    @BunkerBuster: ballistic knives are pretty cool, I guess 
     
     
    jk
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    #5  Edited By EVO

    Define "significantly".

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    #6  Edited By ThePeacemaker10

    How can Black Ops NOT be better? It's MW2 we're talking about here. But Black Ops does look promising so far. The only thing I'm a little concerned about are the RC Cars and the Ballistic Knife. Like, for the car, all you have to do is get 3 kills and then anybody of your choosing dies. Hopefully you can shoot the car to detonate it before it gets into range. I still predict a lot of spam at the games release. And the Ballistic Knife doesn't sit well with me either. Especially since it's a secondary weapon so I'm assuming you can just scavenge more ammo for it. But other than that it's looking to be a success. Especially since they got rid of Commando, Danger Close, and One Man Army. And that Scavenger does not refill your launcher ammo. Here's hoping it won't suck.

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    #7  Edited By wolf_blitzer85
    @BunkerBuster said:
    " ITS A KNIFE THAT SHOOTS KNIVES and you kill their owners with it. It's also a fantastic game if you enjoy stabbing people in the face and neck. You can even run up to people Shank style like Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh! It's oddly satisfying. "
    Here's the thing though. People still find reason to bitch about this as if it was a bad thing. Sometimes the internet really confuses me.
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    #8  Edited By JJOR64

    If this game has a rocket launcher that shoots chainsaws, then it will be a million times better then MW2.

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    #9  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    It's not enough evidence to make that claim. Try to find a few more examples. A counter point is treyarch didn't make a call of duty game that's over 90% yet, I don't think they are capable. They just don't have the talent of infinityward.

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    #10  Edited By BunkerBuster
    @wolf_blitzer85: Those people no longer have souls. Their daily life must be so miserable that it has stripped them of their ability to see awesome.
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    #11  Edited By Wasara88

    It's seems to be a much bigger effort than World at War was, that was just a carbon copy of COD4 the few changes they made were for the worse imo and the reason i detest MW2 is the amount of crazy perks and killstreaks and in the in every trailer for Black Ops they show of they new cool perks and killstreaks. I will keep an eye open for it but wont' hold my breath.

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    #12  Edited By Ryax

    dedi servers and gun game. 
     
    need i say more?

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    #13  Edited By Pessh

    Amazes me that people think Treyarch will make a less glitchy game than IW. WaW was a mess. Tactical insertions are still in btw.

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    #14  Edited By Crankshow

    treyarch will always be stuck in the shadow of infinity ward until they stop making warfare games based on actual events and start making games that are based on whatever the hell they want to base it on, since they both make the same style of game, it's even under the same series title, they will always be too closely compared

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    #15  Edited By HandsomeDead

    There is none because there's no Soap, Price, Makarov and World War III invasion scenarios.

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    #16  Edited By scarace360

    i want a gun that shoots nazi skulls which are on fire. And when i die lightning hits my body and i come back to life.

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    #17  Edited By Malakhii

    It will have a Zombie mode. 

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    #18  Edited By DeShawn2ks
    @Westrunner:  It better be good I heard Activision put like over 200 people on this game.
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    #19  Edited By WilliamRLBaker

    its being made by Treyarch instant evidence the game will be more glitch filled and filled with more hackers.

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    #20  Edited By Druminator

    Two reason it will rule: True Barebones and split screen online. Plenty of others but those are most important to me.

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    #21  Edited By fjordson

    The wager modes look cool. <3 Gun Game.
     
    I keep reading impressions from people who have played it talking about how it feels more like Call of Duty 2 than the Modern Warfare games. That is an astronomically massive plus in my book. I loved Call of Duty 2. If Treyarch's taking it back to CoD's PC heyday, then I'm all for it.

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    #22  Edited By PeasantAbuse

    I'm one of the few people who actually enjoys every CoD game, so I'll probably like it no matter what.
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    #23  Edited By SpaceInsomniac
    @Westrunner: 
     
    PERKS - No Danger Close, No OMA, No Commando, No Stopping Power, No Juggernaut, No Deathstreaks.  
     
    Killstreaks can't be used to earn other killstreaks.
     
    Combat Training (AKA bot matches) can be played in both local split-screen and/or online. You can have two players on the same system vs three online players and fill the rest up with bots. 
     
    Black Ops Developer when asked how grenade tube spam will be limited in Black Ops:  "Scavenger does not refill; most expensive attachment; can't be used with Warlord (aka Bling in MW2)" 
     
    Hate all the killstreak spam of MW2?  Optional playlists will include:  Barebones Pure (No Perks, Killstreaks, Attachments, Equipment, or Contracts), Barebones Classic (Killstreaks at 3, 5 and 7), and Barebones Tactical (Pure version with mixed bag of objective modes).
     
    Finally, a word about the theater mode from IGN:
     

    It's one thing to put a Theater Mode into your games. It's quite another to rival even the current industry leaders at Bungie, but that's exactly what Treyarch is doing with Call of Duty: Black Ops. All of the standards are there -- a free roaming camera that can also lock on to players, clip and screenshot export, the ability to fast forward or rewind the action, and the option to browse your friend's shared files. There's also a whole lot more.

    You can save segments and then clip them together and slow down or speed up the game speed while recording. Up to 100 of your most recent games over the past 7 days are saved automatically for you to later watch and edit. The timeline displayed during theater mode indicates all the kills in the match, a green mark for a kill, and a red mark for when you died, allowing you to quickly skip to the interesting parts of the match. The tools look super powerful -- both for the casual player that wants to know where jerks are camping and for the hardcore machinima maker.

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    #24  Edited By Vinchenzo

    Black Ops is going to suck. The end.

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    #25  Edited By ComradeKritstov
    @Ryax said:
    " dedi servers and gun game.  need i say more? "
    So it will be just as good as a game from 6 years ago? 
     
    ZING!
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    @SpaceInsomniac:  All of that sounds too amazing for words.
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    #27  Edited By steve_ped

    The chopper gunner is going to be sweet because you can control it and shoot at the same time

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    #28  Edited By kenya24

    MW2 is an excellent game, but has a few things that hold it back a bit. By the sounds of it, Treyarch is going to address them. 
     
    I'm not worried about the RC car. They're probably not that good anyway, otherwise they'd make it a higher killstreak bonus. The videos always show the "ideal" scenario 

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    #30  Edited By Ice_Cold_Rayman
    @CitizenKane said:
    " Modern Warfare 2 was my favorite game from last year(along with Uncharted 2), so any additions just makes me more excited for it. "
    It was one of my favorite games of last year as well. However, it still is. I play regularly with some of my buddies, and i'm not sure if i'm ready to spend another $60 on the Call of Duty franchise less than a year after MW2. 
     
    I'm also not big on Treyarch stripping things from MW2 (like OMA, changing the grenade launcher/scavenger). I suppose it had to be done though, as the community can't be trusted to play like gentlemen. Just a shame, since switching between my guns/perks is something I enjoy doing on MW2.
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    #31  Edited By ArbitraryWater

    I don't know if it will be better, but I do know that it will be significantly more batshit crazy, whilst also hopefully not being the fairly unbalanced exploitation-fest of MW2 multiplayer. In any case, if I don't get Halo Reach I will get Black Ops, because my quota for multiplayer FPS games is only one a year.

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    #32  Edited By metalmoog
    @JJOR64 said:

    " If this game has a rocket launcher that shoots chainsaws, then it will be a million times better then MW2. "

    Hahahahaha.  That is fucking awesome.
     
    But yeah seriously, I'm so excited about this game since viewing the multiplayer videos and Treyarch interviews.  I was going to give it a pass too, until I saw those! I'll be lining up at Midnight for sure to get this like i did for Halo Reach.
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    #33  Edited By iam3green

    it will be better. just look at waw and modern warfare 1. i thought waw was better with the small things.

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    #34  Edited By vipersniper100

    im hoping that it will be the better then mw2
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    #35  Edited By 234r2we232
    @iam3green said:

    " it will be better. just look at waw and modern warfare 1. i thought waw was better with the small things. "

    So you're saying the evidence is in you personal opinion? I thought WaW was awful. Every map was too dark, tanks were a pain, and every gun felt the same.
     
    That is to say, I have my eye on Black Ops.
     
    And people are still flexing their Internet biceps about MW2 being "bad" and "broken"? It has issues, that's all. If you want an example of a broken game, take a gander at Fallout 3 (and I enjoy me some Capital Wasteland).
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    #36  Edited By TwoOneFive

    treyarch is smart enough to put a timer on grenade launcher use at the beginning of the rounds, thats automatically significantly better than anything infinity ward has ever done. 

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    #37  Edited By Subjugation
    @HitmanAgent47 said:
    "

    It's not enough evidence to make that claim. Try to find a few more examples. A counter point is treyarch didn't make a call of duty game that's over 90% yet, I don't think they are capable. They just don't have the talent of infinityward.

    "
    A counterpoint to your counter point is that InfinityWard doesn't have the talent of InfinityWard anymore either. Maybe I was the only one that noticed the mass exodus.
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    #38  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @weeman105: a counter to your counter point, it still won't change the fact treyarch is incapable of making a game over 90% regardless whether infinityward is still there or not.
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    #39  Edited By kagato

    I have to admit to being consistantly suprised by how good this game is looking, i really did think the loss of the IW guys would kill of COD but im more and more starting to question this.  Ive probably seen about the same as everyone else so wont go into too much detail but the multiplayer leveling system seems really smart and the game seems to hold up well.  Not saying ill buy it but i have definetly moved from a "NEVER" to a "Maybe".
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    #40  Edited By Sander

    World at War has been my favourite Call of Duty so far. MW2 seems to have more unfair lag and the fucking idiotic knifing range is something I'll never get over. And the maps don't impress. 
    No more Danger Close, scavenging or OMA for Black Ops? Oh hell, for the rest of the time I play MW2, I'm gonna go to TOWN with my RPG and M203's. CAUTION
     
    @SpaceInsomniac 
    Good post.
     

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    #41  Edited By Raymayne

    There is no evidence of that at all yet. I don't think it will be tbh, it'll be on par, seeing as how Activision will have been breathing down Treyarch's necks and ensuring they follow the IW formula as strictly as possible. Expect MW2, re-skinned.

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    #42  Edited By Pinworm45

    Dedicated Servers, a Zombie Mode, and the toning down of the retardation in MW2. I might pick it up, maybe.

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    #43  Edited By mano521

    i honestly dont know why some people choose to opt out of buying some damn good games just because a certain company makes them. but whatever, to each his own.  
    im sure this has been said before but at the end of the day, its all opinion based. some people will love this game and hate this game for the same reasons. me, im hearing that the multiplayer is far far less aggravating than mw2. i also hear they took out stopping power and commando. which is exactly what i didnt like about mw2.  also, the combat training with bots and the zombie modes always keep me occupied.  and i always love playing the singleplayer of cod games. no matter if the story sucks or not. 
     
    tldr:   its opinion based, but i found reasons to look forward to it 
    seeing as how you look like you may be partially interested, just rent it from gamefly or something 
     
     
    edit: treyarch haters need to grow up.  and also a game isnt "rushed" if its 2-3 years in development. especially a cod game.  

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    #44  Edited By OneManX

    Am I the last person on Earth who thought MW2 was a great game? 
     
    I guess so... 
     
    But black Ops is looking amazing just based on the Multiplayer alone...

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    #45  Edited By kenya24
    @OneManX: I'm still playing MW2 and thinking it's great. It has a few things that need tweaking IMHO, but loving it none the less. 
     
    Thing is, when you play a game for many many hours, you're always going to find things you want to change.
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    #46  Edited By Mystyr_E

    MW2 did pretty much what Reach is doing now: I never had fun playing it
     
    CoD4, Bad Company 2 or Team Fortress 2 I never have that issue much, even when I'm losing but I swear MW2 and Reach drive me up the wall. But one thing that I enjoy is not in Black Ops?
     
    No.fucking.Commando.

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    I don't think we should convince this guy of anything. "Proud to have not given Activision a dime"? Fuck him, he's just going to complain bout it anyways.

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    #48  Edited By DonPixel

    Only evidence I need to know it´s gonna be significantly better is: COLD WAR!

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    #49  Edited By 234r2we232
    @Romination said:
    " I don't think we should convince this guy of anything. "Proud to have not given Activision a dime"? Fuck him, he's just going to complain bout it anyways. "
    This.

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