Showing Off A Swastika Icon In COD: Black Ops Will Get You Banned

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If you're using an icon that looks like a swastika in Call of Duty: Black Ops, you will be banned from Xbox Live. Director of policy and enforcement for Microsoft's online service, Stephen Toulouse, made that clear a couple of days ago on his own blog after telling a BLOPS player via Twitter the very same thing. 

The reason you'll get banned, of course, is that the swastika is a sign of monstrous hatred, violence, and abuse. No one needs to be exposed to the distasteful symbol when they're just trying to fit in a couple of games of BLOPs on a Monday afternoon. 

Toulouse lays this all out well on his blog, while also admitting that not all usages of the symbol through the ages have been in the same spirit as the Nazi party in World War II. In fact, the post as a whole serves as a huge rebuttal to those who are somehow mustering up arguments against these possible bans. What's important to remember here, regardless of how you feel on this, is that Xbox Live is a private service and Microsoft can regulate content on it however it sees fit. It could, theoretically, ban the word "Brad."
 

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== TEASER ==
Summing up the stance in Toulouse's words:

The Xbox Live profile and in-game content you create is accessible by everyone. You do not have the context inside of it to explain your long-winded contrarian view that your pithy text that violates the Terms of Use or Code of Conduct is actually intended to change people's minds about a commonly held understanding.


It's not political correctness, it's fundamental respect. If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the Earth, I think that's great. Your Xbox Live profile or in-game logo, which doesn't have the context to explain your goal, is not the right place to do that. And by the way, that doesn't just go for the swastika, it applies to many other symbols as well that my team does indeed take action on when we see it.


If you're wondering how a player could even use a swastika icon in BLOPs, look no further than the game's robust icon creation functionality, which like Forza, allows you to take pre-existing images and layer them on top of each other. With enough work and cash earned by playing the game, you can create a symbol widely recognized as a hateful and hurtful one and then display it for others in matchmaking lobbies or even on your guns. You can also make phalluses or create pictures of unicorns banging bears, both of which will also get you banned. You have been warned!
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#1  Edited By BradNicholson

If you're using an icon that looks like a swastika in Call of Duty: Black Ops, you will be banned from Xbox Live. Director of policy and enforcement for Microsoft's online service, Stephen Toulouse, made that clear a couple of days ago on his own blog after telling a BLOPS player via Twitter the very same thing. 

The reason you'll get banned, of course, is that the swastika is a sign of monstrous hatred, violence, and abuse. No one needs to be exposed to the distasteful symbol when they're just trying to fit in a couple of games of BLOPs on a Monday afternoon. 

Toulouse lays this all out well on his blog, while also admitting that not all usages of the symbol through the ages have been in the same spirit as the Nazi party in World War II. In fact, the post as a whole serves as a huge rebuttal to those who are somehow mustering up arguments against these possible bans. What's important to remember here, regardless of how you feel on this, is that Xbox Live is a private service and Microsoft can regulate content on it however it sees fit. It could, theoretically, ban the word "Brad."
 

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== TEASER ==
Summing up the stance in Toulouse's words:

The Xbox Live profile and in-game content you create is accessible by everyone. You do not have the context inside of it to explain your long-winded contrarian view that your pithy text that violates the Terms of Use or Code of Conduct is actually intended to change people's minds about a commonly held understanding.


It's not political correctness, it's fundamental respect. If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the Earth, I think that's great. Your Xbox Live profile or in-game logo, which doesn't have the context to explain your goal, is not the right place to do that. And by the way, that doesn't just go for the swastika, it applies to many other symbols as well that my team does indeed take action on when we see it.


If you're wondering how a player could even use a swastika icon in BLOPs, look no further than the game's robust icon creation functionality, which like Forza, allows you to take pre-existing images and layer them on top of each other. With enough work and cash earned by playing the game, you can create a symbol widely recognized as a hateful and hurtful one and then display it for others in matchmaking lobbies or even on your guns. You can also make phalluses or create pictures of unicorns banging bears, both of which will also get you banned. You have been warned!
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#2  Edited By DaBuddaDa

Heil BLOPS

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#3  Edited By ShadowKing7

Not surprising.
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#4  Edited By Vinchenzo

Guten morgen mein freund!

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#5  Edited By Thejugglingbum

Wasn't their last game filled with Swastikas?

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#6  Edited By Krakn3Dfx

What if I have a Robo Hitler and he's saying "Mein Laben"?

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#7  Edited By thedj93

wait, why no unicorn banging?

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#8  Edited By droop

Was probably a bad idea to include the custom emblem creator in the first place.

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#9  Edited By flaminghobo

I was beginning to get tired of the amount of 'sex' or 'dick' emblems I'd been seeing. This is only good news.

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#10  Edited By seakae

Good.

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#11  Edited By Wodkaredbubu

Very Good Indeed. 

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#12  Edited By ArbitraryWater

Well, duh. Personally, I think a dinosaur holding a gun on top of an airplane is significantly cooler than a hate symbol anyways.

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#13  Edited By solidlife

It follows the saw law as Mario law. in user generated content. 

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#14  Edited By Sharpless

But, but it is my right as an American to be a hateful, racist sack of dickbags! First Amendment! ObamaCare!

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#15  Edited By cwdawg1224

Before the 1930s, swastikas were more commonly associated with well-being in Hinduism and Buddhism, and were straight up and down instead of the Nazi's tilted version. I wonder if they would give exceptions to that, but I wouldn't suggest risking it.

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#17  Edited By patrick

Good for them

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#18  Edited By Illmatic

About time.

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#19  Edited By FoxxFireArt

That's pretty good to hear. I saw far too many of those while I was playing Black Ops on the PS3. One was straight up a Nazi flag. After I saw that. I left the lobby that person was playing on. I've seen another one that was the symbol of the KKK's flag.
 
I am always amazed by just how hateful some people can be online when they think they are anonymous. Listening to voice chat I would hear some of the most violent and racist things you can. It was a real turn off to online play.

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#20  Edited By e7c

what if you would like to use the Indian one which in fact means peace and make it look like the Indian one if that is possible which has a very different resemblance than the Nazi one would they question you or would they just ban you thinking that you intend the Nazi one when in fact you intend the Indian one

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#21  Edited By 234r2we232

Secretly, Brad's wielding a bear banging a unicorn as his emblem.

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#22  Edited By ch13696

Yeah, a swastika sucks ass, but I'm sure glad I play on the PC. My soon to be confederate flag won't be banned. =p

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#23  Edited By AlKusanagi

Yet upstanding youth can still sport various versions of WEED, 4:10 and other highly intellectual tags/icons.

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#24  Edited By Vinny_Says

It's like they lured all the stupid racist idiots into this "create a symbol" thing and then banned their asses. Hilarious if you ask me! 

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#25  Edited By Winternet

Does a white man defecating on top of a black man count? What if is it the other way around? What about if it's 2 white or black man?

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#26  Edited By harrisonave
@ArbitraryWater said:
" Well, duh. Personally, I think a dinosaur holding a gun on top of an airplane is significantly cooler than a hate symbol anyways. "
Cosign.
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#27  Edited By Mars_Cleric

those Nazi zombies better watch out or they're going to get banned
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#28  Edited By ch13696
@Thejugglingbum said:
" Wasn't their last game filled with Swastikas? "
You gotta realize, Treyarch owns the game and we don't. That's why they can use the word "Assault" on the game and Xbox Live players can't.
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#29  Edited By briggs713

lol yeah I saw some of these.  However, they are nowhere near as abundant as animals sodomizing other animals.  

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#30  Edited By Advertisement
@AlKusanagi said:
" Yet upstanding youth can still sport various versions of WEED, 4:10 and other highly intellectual tags/icons. "
So true. if you allow one aspect of dumbassery, might as well support it all
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#31  Edited By OldManLight

Ok the dicks I get because half the items in the emblem editor look like things that could be used to make that type of stuff. The game is rated m so that stuff as immature as it is doesn't bother me. There's no excuse for the rampant racism though. Most of the time its just trolls looking for a fight though.

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#32  Edited By Rockdalf

OH, this is the Xbox Live version of the game.  Nevermind.

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#33  Edited By this_guy571
@Thejugglingbum: cause its totally the same thing!!!!
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#34  Edited By Illmatic
@Advertisement said:
" @AlKusanagi said:
" Yet upstanding youth can still sport various versions of WEED, 4:10 and other highly intellectual tags/icons. "
So true. if you allow one aspect of dumbassery, might as well support it all "
I'd hardly relate smoking weed to as big a felony as a symbol many people associate with a horrible moment in world history.
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#35  Edited By Zatoichi_Sanjuro

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Both hateful and hurtful™.
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#36  Edited By CL60

What if it's clearly not the Nazi swastika?

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#37  Edited By OldManLight
@Thejugglingbum
Wasn't their last game filled with Swastikas?
Haha, id love to pursue that discussion with a treyarch or xbox live official.
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#38  Edited By harrisonave
@ArbitraryWater said:

" Well, duh. Personally, I think a dinosaur holding a gun on top of an airplane is significantly cooler than a hate symbol anyways. "

Cosign.
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#39  Edited By TwoOneFive
@FoxxFireArt said:

" That's pretty good to hear. I saw far too many of those while I was playing Black Ops on the PS3. One was straight up a Nazi flag. After I saw that. I left the lobby that person was playing on. I've seen another one that was the symbol of the KKK's flag. I am always amazed by just how hateful some people can be online when they think they are anonymous. Listening to voice chat I would hear some of the most violent and racist things you can. It was a real turn off to online play. "

first off... theyre usually just trying to be funny by exploiting the games features.  but yeah its lame. if it hurts your feelings to see it though.... shut the fuck. nobody playing this game was anywhere close to being alive when WWII happened so lets all stop acting like little pussies. 
 
and besides
ITS ALL OVER THE ZOMBIE MODE WTF 
 and they do that for fun. its okay for them though right?
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#40  Edited By MudMan

Well, there are two sides to this. On the one hand, the argument being made here is pretty solid and I agree with it. 
 
On the other hand, the "it's a private service" argument of the post makes little sense. Whether they are entitled to ban all the Brads of the world (which they probably can't, discrimination laws and all that), that doesn't make it morally acceptable for them to do it. I've never understood this line of reasoning. 
 
I mean, sure, a political blog is entitled to monitor its comments, but would we find it appropriate for them to systematically remove posts they don't agree with, even if they were respectful and articulated? I'm certainly in as much of a right to complain about MS's policies if I find them reproachable as they are to enforce them at least.

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#41  Edited By zityz

Than just use the other actual swastika, if your banned, that's their ignorance. 

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#42  Edited By Blueblur1

I could get banned for my sexy unicorn? Oh no. :(

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#43  Edited By keyhunter

Torture and shooting people in the face isn't hateful and monstrous?
No no. I'm pretty sure people that play BLOPS arent in it for a couple peaceful games. They're doing it because it's a FUCKING MURDER SIMULATOR and they're terrible people. That's why 50% of the people make Swastika's their emblem.

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#44  Edited By HubrisRanger
@Thejugglingbum said:
" Wasn't their last game filled with Swastikas? "
This is an X-Box live ruling, not a Treyarch one.
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#45  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

I really don't understand the outrage over this. Sure, the swastika can represent many things, but one of the most prolific things it represents is Nazism, which in turn represents the murder of countless people based on race, religion and sexuality. It's pretty much a no brainier that it's going to be banned.

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#46  Edited By citizenkane
@cwdawg1224 said:
" Before the 1930s, swastikas were more commonly associated with well-being in Hinduism and Buddhism, and were straight up and down instead of the Nazi's tilted version. I wonder if they would give exceptions to that, but I wouldn't suggest risking it. "
There is no way of telling in what way you are using a swastika and I doubt that a noticeable percentage of people who do have swastikas in the Black Ops tag use it as spiritual reference to Hinduism or Buddhism, so it's best to just get rid of it completely.
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#47  Edited By Make_Me_Mad

Anyone tried slapping Infinity Ward logos all over everything yet?

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#48  Edited By WhatTheDang
@zityz said:
" Than just use the other actual swastika, if your banned, that's their ignorance. 
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#49  Edited By nintendoeats

You get banned for making a unicorn have sex with a bear? Thats mild compared to anything that you might hear over the mic...

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#50  Edited By nail1080

Banning a symbol of censorship in a "free society" is ironic to say the least. Everyone should be free to demonstrate their ignorance, apathy, or lack of intelligencea and all others should be free to avoid them.

Also why not ban the USA flag also, afterall they have killed millions of innocent people in other countries and still do, also they perform crazy experiments on african-americans, but sure it's ok because they don't publicly admit it I suppose
 
 

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