@Geno said:

I do find it interesting however that they removed it from only Steam. It seems like they aren't only wanting to establish their own DD service, but also to declare war on the largest distributor. May the battles begin.

I don't see it as that, as much as they're attempting to entice people to redeem the serial key to Origin and try the features there. Because as far as I've gathered, you'll be able to join friends from Origin and so on. Much like on Steam, but I don't recall you've been able to do that from any EA branded games on Steam? I mean they've only pulled Crysis 2, while they just put up a bunch of Sims 3 games and expansions on Steam. I think they're just trying to push a multiplayer game into Origin to stress test the friends functionality, or something. Or it's Crysis 2 because it was built with Origin functionality into it. Guess we'll have to find that out when that happens.

From EA's Terms of Service from their Origin page:

"The products and services that we make available on the Websites may be downloaded or accessed for at least one year after you have completed your purchase."

So they can (and probably will given their track record) cut you off from your purchases after one year.

I can see it working out for them in the long run. Mass Effect 3, BF3, Mirror's Edge 2 -- are these games you're thinking about missing just for some brand loyalty? Probably not. If EA continues to make good games, I'll have no problem buying from them. It takes all of 10 seconds to log into a different client, and EADM/Origin actually works reasonably well.   I do find it interesting however that they removed it from only Steam. It seems like they aren't only wanting to establish their own DD service, but also to declare war on the largest distributor. May the battles begin. 

People are really anal when it comes to download clients. Steam is great but I also have comrade, impulse and now origin. Big deal. 
 
As long as you can take your serial key and reactivate those games on Origin, I really don't see the problem. Calm down kids. Sheesh.

@Shuborno said:

From EA's Terms of Service from their Origin page:

"The products and services that we make available on the Websites may be downloaded or accessed for at least one year after you have completed your purchase."

So they can (and probably will given their track record) cut you off from your purchases after one year.

Fuck that shit. Most my Steam games I don't play for the first time until after one year.

@demonbear said:

People are really anal when it comes to download clients. Steam is great but I also have comrade, impulse and now origin. Big deal. As long as you can take your serial key and reactivate those games on Origin, I really don't see the problem. Calm down kids. Sheesh.

Couldn't reactivate my Crysis. I am calm. Just disappointed. I'm also not a kid.

From EA's Terms of Service from their Origin page:

"The products and services that we make available on the Websites may be downloaded or accessed for at least one year after you have completed your purchase."

So they can (and probably will given their track record) cut you off from your purchases after one year.

@demonbear said:

People are really anal when it comes to download clients. Steam is great but I also have comrade, impulse and now origin. Big deal. As long as you can take your serial key and reactivate those games on Origin, I really don't see the problem. Calm down kids. Sheesh.

Couldn't reactivate my Crysis. I am calm. Just disappointed. I'm also not a kid.

I bought BC2 about 1 year ago.

I used my cd-key on EADM, and it went smooth as butter. Or so I thought. 

3-4 months ago I wanted to download the game again from there. It's gone, it disappeared. All I have is my copy of BF2 complete collection.

I wanted to play BF3 but this is not gonna make me spend money on it, that's for sure.

@demonbear said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@demonbear said:

People are really anal when it comes to download clients. Steam is great but I also have comrade, impulse and now origin. Big deal. As long as you can take your serial key and reactivate those games on Origin, I really don't see the problem. Calm down kids. Sheesh.

Couldn't reactivate my Crysis. I am calm. Just disappointed. I'm also not a kid.

Crysis 1 or 2? If its one, sure, who gives a damn, but Crysis 2, that's not fair and you totally should be able to activate the game there and therefore, have the right to whine and be anal.

That's strange you couldn't. Because I activated my Medal of Honor and Bad Company 2 keys into Origin, that I got from Steam, so it should work.

@demonbear said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@demonbear said:

People are really anal when it comes to download clients. Steam is great but I also have comrade, impulse and now origin. Big deal. As long as you can take your serial key and reactivate those games on Origin, I really don't see the problem. Calm down kids. Sheesh.

Couldn't reactivate my Crysis. I am calm. Just disappointed. I'm also not a kid.

Crysis 1 or 2? If its one, sure, who gives a damn, but Crysis 2, that's not fair and you totally should be able to activate the game there and therefore, have the right to whine and be anal.

Crysis 1 and I give a damn. I paid for the game, I should be able to activate it there. If EA wants me to have a central repository for EA games then it should work for all EA games. The game isn't ages old, it was purchased last year brand new. I'm not whining or being anal.

@PhatSeeJay said:

@demonbear said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@demonbear said:

People are really anal when it comes to download clients. Steam is great but I also have comrade, impulse and now origin. Big deal. As long as you can take your serial key and reactivate those games on Origin, I really don't see the problem. Calm down kids. Sheesh.

Couldn't reactivate my Crysis. I am calm. Just disappointed. I'm also not a kid.

Crysis 1 or 2? If its one, sure, who gives a damn, but Crysis 2, that's not fair and you totally should be able to activate the game there and therefore, have the right to whine and be anal.

That's strange you couldn't. Because I activated my Medal of Honor and Bad Company 2 keys into Origin, that I got from Steam, so it should work.

I activated BC2 and NF:HP but Crysis was a no go.

@SeriouslyNow: Is it a retail copy or Digital purchase? Because I've had the same problem with my retail copies, where only Sims 3 has been the only retail game I've been able to redeem into Origin so far.

Wasn't Mirror's Edge 2 put on hold indefinitely?

@KaosAngel said:

@Shuborno said:

From EA's Terms of Service from their Origin page:

"The products and services that we make available on the Websites may be downloaded or accessed for at least one year after you have completed your purchase."

So they can (and probably will given their track record) cut you off from your purchases after one year.

Fuck that shit. Most my Steam games I don't play for the first time until after one year.

Ditto for me. I buy games on sale and leave them in the backlog for a rainy day. Hell, several EA games fall into that category for me on Steam (Crysis, Battlefield BC2, etc.)

I'm all for competition, but why enter the market to compete with an inferior product? And worse still, why go all in on that wager with Battlefield 3 and The Old Republic? It's lunacy. Those are two PC-focused games they need to do well and they're starting off by pissing off many people who are in that core target fanbase.

@PhatSeeJay said:

@SeriouslyNow: Is it a retail copy or Digital purchase? Because I've had the same problem with my retail copies, where only Sims 3 has been the only retail game I've been able to redeem into Origin so far.

Digital. Purchased on Steam.

@SeriouslyNow said:

@PhatSeeJay said:

@SeriouslyNow: Is it a retail copy or Digital purchase? Because I've had the same problem with my retail copies, where only Sims 3 has been the only retail game I've been able to redeem into Origin so far.

Digital. Purchased on Steam.

Well then. That's fucked up, and EA tech support should get a piece of your mind.

@SeriouslyNow said:

@PhatSeeJay said:

@SeriouslyNow: Is it a retail copy or Digital purchase? Because I've had the same problem with my retail copies, where only Sims 3 has been the only retail game I've been able to redeem into Origin so far.

Digital. Purchased on Steam.

Well then. That's fucked up, and EA tech support should get a piece of your mind.

@Azteck said:

Wasn't Mirror's Edge 2 put on hold indefinitely?

Yes, but they're working on it. Just last week it was rumored that it would be running on Frostbite 2. 

@Shuborno said:

From EA's Terms of Service from their Origin page:

"The products and services that we make available on the Websites may be downloaded or accessed for at least one year after you have completed your purchase."

So they can (and probably will given their track record) cut you off from your purchases after one year.

I like to reformat often, and steam makes it easy for me to backup my games and restore them easily. Or re download them if I must.

Once again, ea gone fucked up. I will buy it on steam ONLY.

Ugh. I hate the fragmentation.

I'm sure its all about control and money but as a user this is annoying. Although the bullet points are all about friends lists and unification that is exactly what they are breaking. Right now I see everyone on steam, but now it will be some people on steam, some people on origin... It's yet another client I have to run, yet another program asking me to install patches every time it starts, etc, etc. yet another sign up for another login I don't really want.

EA have been crap in the past about downloads giving you limited time frames and asking for extra money for the ability to download again... but even if they got their shit straight I'd still be annoyed at the idea of having yet another service... It's one thing to have it in game, which is annoying enough. It's another thing to invade outside the games.

I will avoid this service as long as I can.

I'd rather go downtown and buy a physical copy of the game than visit the bullshit that is Origin.

Valve won't sell their games on other digital distribution platforms. How fucking dare they.

If I can't buy BF3 from Steam I will be very disappointed. What happened EA? Just when you started to turn things around, this year it seems like you've started to go back to your old ways.

Edit: Yep BF3 pre-orders got removed too.

omg...

You had me ready to buy BF3... but if I can't have it on steam..........

wow I might not buy it now.

Bwhahaha, if you guys seriously wont buy BF3 now simply because you can't get it on Steam then you weren't that interested in the game in the first place honestly.

@Vorbis said:

If I can't buy BF3 from Steam I will be very disappointed. What happened EA? Just when you started to turn things around, this year it seems like you've started to go back to your old ways.

Edit: Yep BF3 pre-orders got removed too.

@DG991 said:

omg...

You had me ready to buy BF3... but if I can't have it on steam..........

wow I might not buy it now.

Why the desperate need to have on Steam? If its purely just for the reason to say fuck you to Origin there are these things called discs which you can buy from stores. I think I can live without having a client running constantly in the background of the game while I play, so I'll enjoy my physical copy of BF3 very much thank you. Also, they've already confirmed mad community/partying up features in game, so I have no idea why you'd want to crap it up with another service. 
 
Still doesn't validate Origin's existence, I know, but no need to shun BF3. 
 
@CL60 said:

Bwhahaha, if you guys seriously wont buy BF3 now simply because you can't get it on Steam then you weren't that interested in the game in the first place honestly.

This, there's a lot of childish people on here right now.

@Chavtheworld: Dude....

Steam is awesome. End of story.

Being on steam means that I can re download it at any time. This new origins thing is gonna be some bullshit I am sure. It is one client... it is fast and easy and reliable.

Also I want the game to be successful and you know what brings in a lot of sales? The millions of users who log onto steam and see friends playing BF3 or see a sale or some kind of pre order bonus (as much as I hate them). That is why I bought BFBC2.

Steam is awesome... origin is not. They have an established platform set up and they are ignoring it because they think they can make more money.

EA will blame pirates when Origin doesn't meet their ridiculous expectations. You heard it here first.

@Chavtheworld: @DG991: @demonbear:  

How ironic is it that Steam, the greatest beacon of light in the world of PC gaming - a world that is all about freedom and multiple choices and operating methods - turned the platform's legions of users into single-minded gamers whose only resort is Steam ?

 Pretty god darned ironic :D   Whoever tells me that i used the word 'ironic' incorrectly gets a fucking beating!

@Chavtheworld: @DG991: @demonbear:  

How ironic is it that Steam, the greatest beacon of light in the world of PC gaming - a world that is all about freedom and multiple choices and operating methods - turned the platform's legions of users into single-minded gamers whose only resort is Steam ?

 Pretty god darned ironic :D   Whoever tells me that i used the word 'ironic' incorrectly gets a fucking beating!

@demonbear: Because Valve has an awesome track record for NOT being evil bastards. And steam has been a great service and started back when digital distribution wasn't a thing... they made it popular. If origins wants my money they need to prove themselves. And I don't trust EA. I am not going to buy into a service just because they are releasing BF3 on it... and because they are releasing BF3 on it I don't think it will be as successful.

@Chavtheworld: No. It is a legitimate reason. Because I only buy games digitally nowadays because dvd's are stupid and take up space. And I don't trust Origins enough to buy it digitally. They are unproven. And I will not waste $60 on a game that I can't re download as many times as I want forever and ever like the Steam service.

@Ahmad_Metallic: Not really that amazing considering most PC gamers have been using only windows to game on. Sure we could use linux and play around with WINE, or use Mac OS.. but most don't because Windows is reliable and easy for gaming on.

We have the choice to use other digital distributions platforms but none of them are as reliable or provide deals as good as steam. Yes we can add games to the steam service to connect with friends, but we can't redownload through steam whenever we want.

Release it on both, one on steam for $60, and one on Origin for $50. That will be at least some incentive to jump into a new platform blindly. But don't just release it on Origin because your losing many thousands of potential customers.

Ughhhhh...EA...origin will suck. Steam is awesome..deal with it.

EA needs to stop being so full of themselves.

Bleh, what a lame decision.

@CL60 said:

Bwhahaha, if you guys seriously wont buy BF3 now simply because you can't get it on Steam then you weren't that interested in the game in the first place honestly.

Dude I built a computer to play BF3, but no steam, no deal. There's always Bad Company 2 anyway.

@XII_Sniper said:

@CL60 said:

Bwhahaha, if you guys seriously wont buy BF3 now simply because you can't get it on Steam then you weren't that interested in the game in the first place honestly.

Dude I built a computer to play BF3, but no steam, no deal. There's always Bad Company 2 anyway.

Wow... just wow...

That's pretty disappointing. Steam is the standard.

@XII_Sniper said:

@CL60 said:

Bwhahaha, if you guys seriously wont buy BF3 now simply because you can't get it on Steam then you weren't that interested in the game in the first place honestly.

Dude I built a computer to play BF3, but no steam, no deal. There's always Bad Company 2 anyway.

Wow... just wow...

I love how everyone is blaming EA when Valve is the one responsible here... Good ol' fanboism at its finest!

I love how everyone is blaming EA when Valve is the one responsible here... Good ol' fanboism at its finest!

@CL60 said:

@Enigma777 said:

I love how everyone is blaming EA when Valve is the one responsible here... Good ol' fanboism at its finest!

Yeah, it seems according to Patricks article Valve are the ones who wanted their games off. At least Crysis 2.

The twist in that article is pretty surprising. I mean, even I thought EA pulled it to try to promote Origin. But people will still completely ignore it to continue to bash at Origin and EA. Not sure which part is the saddest.

EA's going big this year... trying to kill World of Warcraft, Steam, and Call of Duty...  
 
I guess we'll see if they can beat Blizzard, Valve, and Activision all at once 

the cool thing that unlike Steam - prices on Origin reflect local store prices. so..crysis 2 cost me 499 rubles