Ugh, fuck you Capcom! And fuck you Ninja Theory!

I hope this game tanks like no other.

I don't know what it is about this new look that pisses me off, he just seems like a skinny twat with a punk hairstyle who looks all wrong when he starts kicking the crap out of demons....Dante was a prettyboy with a huge ego, but at least he was built to wield a massive sword and demon powers. Maybe after DMC4 I'm just not looking forward to seeing another kid take the wheel when we got to see badass stubbley Dante do his thing, only to have his image revert back to this...thing...or it could be that I think games should move past storyline content that just sucked, or, much like Raiden, turn Nero into a proper, epic character we can all admire, or at least cheer on when hes ripping into an enemy that Dante can't take because he's too old...
 
MGS got this shit right.... 
 
And after the gameplay that was involved with DMC4, I think we can all agree that nobody has high hopes for this game...it just doesn't look appealing. Maybe its just a bad trailer, but I can't help notice that it seems kind of slow, perhaps its a framerate issue, but it just doesn't look good.

I think it's pretty funny that people complain about the new character design as if the previous design wasn't just as bad.

Ugh, fuck you Capcom! And fuck you Ninja Theory!

I hope this game tanks like no other.

Capcom has taken over development of this game?!.... Oh, well it looks like I didn't get my wish.

@Beforet said:

What does the word "emo" even mean any more?

Not how anybody is using it in this thread.  Also, as long as the game stays true to the style of Devil May Cry, I won't have any issues. I kind of wish they would have kept going with Dante from Devil May Cry 4. I liked his older, street-smarter self in that game.

@Ezekeilpurger said:

Capcom has taken over development of this game?!.... Oh, well it looks like I didn't get my wish.

?

The game is still being made by Ninja Theory, last I heard.

Not that I wouldn't prefer to see Capcom take over development.

Link to the vid maybe? 
 
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-devil-may/715167 This one?  
 
Dante looks even more crap than I remembered. I don't care about the level of emo-ness, I look at his ugly coat, useless white t-shirt and regular pants. This isn't the Dante I am looking for. 

Whatever, I'm done caring. It's DMC. Not the most significant franchise these days. Enslaved was fun so, I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt.

As a long time DMC fan, Dante's hair color in Dobol Moy Croy isn't even in the top ten of things wrong with this game.

i like how people, after this long, still doesnt understand why the people are complaining about the design, not just about the hair.

also the fuck is wrong with white hair?

"You got your damn wish"

Platinum is now developing DMC?! ......Oh, this is just about the hair color.

What's funny is that the majority of people who are shitting about the complainers are not even DMC fans... so why do they care?

What's wrong with this game again? It actually looks pretty good.

@BlastoTheSpectre said:

"You got your damn wish"

Platinum is now developing DMC?! ......Oh, this is just about the hair color.

If that actually happened... Oh man.

I don't like the new design because there's no real reason to change it, they've stuck with it for 4 games so why yank it from under people?
 
I also don't like how they changed the voice actor of Cole in Infamous 2. I like things to carry on properly.
 
Oh and they also changed the model of Nicole and her voice actor for Dead Space 2 which was unbelieveably retarded. Right off the bat I was confused what was going on in the intro, then I figured they had just changed Nicole. 
 
Is it that hard to ask for some stability among characters?

he still looks like a pussy. old dante is way better

What's funny is that the majority of people who are shitting about the complainers are not even DMC fans... so why do they care?

As a long time DMC fan, Dante's hair color in Dobol Moy Croy isn't even in the top ten of things wrong with this game.

@Ygg: Why are you asking for stability when this is clearly a reboot as if the other games had never happen, a re-imagining of a character. Besides Capcom approved of the character model.

He still looks emo so... not to mention that I hate him as a character. Period. Devil May Cry 4 is the only game I regret ever playing.

@phrosnite said:

He still looks emo so... not to mention that I hate him as a character. Period. Devil May Cry 4 is the only game I regret ever playing.

lol

I like the Architecture.

@phrosnite said:

He still looks emo so... not to mention that I hate him as a character. Period. Devil May Cry 4 is the only game I regret ever playing.

lol

@Catolf said:

@Ygg: Why are you asking for stability when this is clearly a reboot as if the other games had never happen, a re-imagining of a character. Besides Capcom approved of the character model.

"I don't like the new design because there's no real reason to change it."  Still stands. I'm getting tired of this reboot fad now too.  I mean reboot or not, people think of DMC you think of Dante, that white haired dude with the guns, there's no reason to change that, a reboot doesn't mean they have to butcher the character.  If it was a true reboot they'd just make an entirely new character in the same universe. I know they tried that with Nero but they could have done better.  Is 4 games really worthy of a reboot? I mean really you can count it as a 3 as DMC4 Dante was just dull, so much backtracking.  And 2 was a bad game, let's just cite DMC1 & 3 as the worthy games.

Old Dante was a generic anime dude with white hair and a red coat, now he's an angsty emo kid. As long as he slices demons and shoots guns it's all fine.

Naw. He still looks pretty stupid. I mean, the gameplay looks like a DMC game, but having messed with 1 and 4 after finishing 3 has made me decide that I'm a fan of Devil May Cry 3 and not DMC as a franchise.

@Catolf:  If we exclude the part where half of the game you played as Dante... YEAH! Devil May Cry has stupid charaters. Period. The new game will be average. Don't get your hopes up.

Old Dante was a generic anime dude with white hair and a red coat, now he's an angsty PUNK kid. As long as he slices demons and shoots guns it's all fine.

This thread makes me hate gamers. I didn't hear a single complaint (aside from acting critique) when Maggie Gyllenhaal replaced Katie Holmes in The Dark Knight. But all this reboot hate makes me want to vomit.

This thread makes me hate gamers. I didn't hear a single complaint (aside from acting critique) when Maggie Gyllenhaal replaced Katie Holmes in The Dark Knight. But all this reboot hate makes me want to vomit.

I hope they don't change it. There's something to be said for listening to the fans, but bowing to their every wish instead of following through on a vision is not a good road to follow. I would rather wait and see what they have come up with before demanding that they suit my personal tastes.

Once you reboot, doesn't that pretty much mean you can do whatever you want?

@Catolf said:

@Artemesia said:

As a long time DMC fan, Dante's hair color in Dobol Moy Croy isn't even in the top ten of things wrong with this game.

Then please address what is wrong. other than the fact Date's Hair and looks have been changed for a reboot. Which the DMC series needs terribly. XP Please list ten. I do not say this with sarcasm, I really want legit reasons why this is so terrible.

The biggest one I can complain about is the gameplay. DMC is all about the gameplay, and despite what some people may argue, the DMC series has a mind bogglingly deep combat system; Ninja Theory probably does not get this. I can't comment on Heavenly Sword as I've only played the demo about once, but Enslaved just about played itself. The platforming was "push X here and watch your guy do a cool jump." No aiming, no input required by the player, just push the button and you succeed. It was cool to watch, their animations are almost unparalleled, and generally just visually NT's games look GOOD to watch. Ninja Theory gets cinematic action, they get making something impressive to watch, but they do not understand the complexity of gameplay that a "proper" DMC game requires. Just watch this.

I would put the full price of a game down on a wager that they will never have anything even remotely close to this level of depth in their combat system, and for me, that is why it will fail as a DMC game.

Is there a blue rinse option?

@OneManX said:

Once you reboot, doesn't that pretty much mean you can do whatever you want?

Not unless you really want to upset the original fans of the series.

@OneManX said:

Once you reboot, doesn't that pretty much mean you can do whatever you want?

Not unless you really want to upset the original fans of the series.

@Catolf said:

DMC's combat wasn't very deep

I can't take you seriously after this.

DMC's combat wasn't very deep

You know, I was thinking about this the other day while watching the E3 demo of the new Tomb Raider reboot. 
In that demo, the stage is set for an origin story with the character of Lara. She is shown as fragile, and going through a serious traumatic situation: A far cry from the tough-as-nails hardened hero that's been around for years. While her final character arch isn't set in-stone, Crystal Dynamics has done a great job communicating their intent for the new take on the classic character.     

So it's almost a year after this thing has been announced, and I'm still reading comments regarding people's confusion on just what this game is. Like the upcoming Tomb Raider, it's an origin-story divorced from any previous continuity. Ninja Theory and Capcom have been defending this game, more than they have been promoting it. Much of that has to do with the muddled design ("He's not emo! He's punk! What do you mean it reflects poorly on our design, if we have to constantly have to stop and explain our design change to you! BAH! Disenfranchised youth!!!") Perhaps the new character design is supposed to look that poor for a reason? That like the upcoming Tomb Raider, a similar character arch will take-place.  
Instead, I get to read endless interviews of developers talking about how prepared/unprepared for the negative comments. Oh, and lot's of silence.
 
I am convinced that a majority of the negativity still surrounding this game, would diminish if there was better communication between Ninja Theory and fans. Complaints about this game go beyond just hair-color. If Ninja Theory can showcase that they understand the core gameplay of Devil May Cry (New trailer looks like a small step in the right direction) and also understand that the likability of Dante, has nothing to do with generic angst, then we can be in for a real treat.

In the game we will hear Dante complaining about how he doesn't want to use Devil Trigger because he's afraid that the power may consume him. In the end of the game, Dante will face a very powerful boss and he will need to use the Devil trigger the entire fight. Once the battle ends, he cannot go back to his real form and he will be with the white hair forever. 
 
I don't doubt that the developers will do this just to say: "YOU WANTED DANTE WITH WHITE HAIR!? HERE'S YOUR GODDAMN DANTE WITH WHITE HAIR!"

@Catolf said:

DMC's combat wasn't very deep

I can't take you seriously after this.

@Catolf said:

DMC's combat wasn't very deep

Not at the beginning of the series, but it's increased exponentially since, culminating with Devil May Cry 4's which has an absolute shit-ton of depth.

I am convinced that a majority of the negativity still surrounding this game, would diminish if there was better communication between Ninja Theory and fans.Complaints about this game go beyond just hair-color. If Ninja Theory can showcase that they understand the core gameplay of Devil May Cry (New trailer looks like a small step in the right direction) and also understand that the likability of Dante, has nothing to do with generic angst, then we can be in for a real treat.

I seriously doubt the complaints (majority) will hush even if Ninja Theory opened up about the game and showed more combat. And so far as much as people tend to try and deny it, it's a LOT to do with hair color, I guarantee if he had white hair from the start (perhaps blond?...pretty?) there would be less talk about his looks and more about general worry about gameplay. Which is a LEGIT reason to sit and worry. 

@Catolf said:

@Icemael said:

@Catolf said:

DMC's combat wasn't very deep

Not at the beginning of the series, but it's increased exponentially since, culminating with Devil May Cry 4's which has an absolute shit-ton of depth.

I will give DMC4 it's due props, I had a lot of fun messing dudes up in that but I can't stay playing a game for combat alone, but for what it's worth I DID like that combat, but in comparison to Bayonetta it's shallow.

but

bayonetta is just dmc4 with an extra attack button

i dont understand

but

bayonetta is just dmc4 with an extra attack button

i dont understand

Because the redesign was my only complaint.

but

bayonetta is just dmc4 with an extra attack button

i dont understand

@Napalm said:

@Beforet said:

What does the word "emo" even mean any more?

Not how anybody is using it in this thread.  Also, as long as the game stays true to the style of Devil May Cry, I won't have any issues. I kind of wish they would have kept going with Dante from Devil May Cry 4. I liked his older, street-smarter self in that game.

I agree with all of this. Old Dante had character. He was definitely one of the most interesting characters in games. He's funny, amusingly cocky, and still empathetic. He was also a character whose bad-assery was actually kind of fitting. I can't see this guy (or Bayonetta cuz fuck her and that stupid ass game thatsrightisaidit) being capable of any of the antics DMC4 Dante pulled.