Is anyone playing this? If you're out there, somewhere, I am curious how it is.

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#1 Posted by ChangeTheL1ghts (84 posts) -

Hey! I haven't heard anyone talking about this since its release yesterday. I have no means or intentions of playing it anytime soon, but it seems interesting! Loved Doom 2016. Well, how is Doom VFR?

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#2 Posted by Schmancy_Pants (28 posts) -

Jeff tried it out at the end of UPF and dubbed it bad. I believe Vinny said something along the lines of it's so bad it makes me like DOOM less.

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#3 Posted by Rebel_Scum (1442 posts) -

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-30-watch-ian-plays-2-fing-hours-of-doom-vfr-with-an-aim-controller

Not that I've watched this and know the guy playing but I guess it's good to hear difference of opinion.

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#4 Posted by TheFlamingo352 (337 posts) -

Yeah based on that Eurogamer video, it sounds like VFR's more DOOM-ish with the aim controller and dual joystick movement, but that's assuming 1) you have that controller and 2) you can stand moving with a joystick in VR. I don't get nauseous with VR personally, but there's no way in hell I'd shell out for that Aim controller just for one game.

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#5 Posted by Weeksy (16 posts) -

@theflamingo352: I've got one (picked it up with Farpoint), so between this, that & Arizona Sunshine, it's for sure niche product, but it's good fun.

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#6 Posted by Marcsman (3823 posts) -

Doom VFR actually take place in the 2016 version. I'm playing the PSVR version using a dualshock. So far I'm loving it, I am using free roam, so I can only play about a hour at a time.

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#7 Posted by Quipido (1562 posts) -

Jeff tried it out at the end of UPF and dubbed it bad. I believe Vinny said something along the lines of it's so bad it makes me like DOOM less.

Yeah, they also only completed tutorial and judged the game super quickly based upon that alone. Seemed a bit weird, honestly. Yes, first impressions count, but man, felt like they had an opinion formed before even starting the game. Just to be clear, I don't own any VR setup and think the whole thing is a clusterfuck and almost a complete failure, as far as VR and games go, but I expected the crew to do a bit more with this specific game before labeling it this way.

Also, we need another VRodeo asap!

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#8 Posted by ShaggE (9261 posts) -

I haven't played it yet, but I was kinda surprised at how hard on it Jeff was being. From everything I've seen, it's about as good as a VR DOOM can be without just straight up remaking the game in VR, movement and all, and making 80% of the fanbase too sick to play. (that said, give those of us without VR sickness the option, devs. If I don't want to teleport/click turn and the game isn't built around teleporting like VFR is, LET ME WALK. RE7 nailed it in that way.)

Of course, VR games by nature are hard to convey through video, so maybe there's something about it that we couldn't see that ruined the experience for Jeff.

*shrug*

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#9 Posted by Marcsman (3823 posts) -

One of the best VR games I own. Trust me I have not been able to justify the amount I have spent on PSVR

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#10 Edited by TheManWithNoPlan (7831 posts) -

I wonder if the people saying it's bad are really just tired of shooters in Vr.

I actually didn't realize this was gonna be on Pc. Just looked on Steam and it appears to have "mixed" reviews. If it ever comes down in price I'd like to check it out.

Related note: Devs need to start figuring out more stuff that isn't just a light gun game in Vr. I was ecstatic when I found Racket fury (a proper table tennis game) on the Oculus store. I had a complete blast with it.

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#11 Posted by wallrick (21 posts) -

I wonder if the people saying it's bad are really just tired of shooters in Vr.

I played on the Vive

It's badly implemented shooting. Basicly, most VR-games make sure the bullet leaves the gun wherever it is, and it has a travel-path like a real bulllet would. In Doom VFR you got a inivisible bubble around you wich determines based on your guns position where you're "aiming", making it feel more like a light-gun game from the arcades. Aiming doesnt help, firstly becouse of the way the shooting works, and the game focuses the Graphics on your gun wich makes Everything else blurry if you try to aim down sights. All enemies that get roughly 1-2 meters within your range will be within your "bubble", so you can't shoot them. You have to either teleport/dash, or use the pushback-mechanic, wich in my opinion feels like an afterthought to solve the issue with how the shooting works in the game.

I need to play Doom 2016 again to confirm this, but Doom VFR game doesnt feel/run like the original Doom. Weapons doesnt have the same impact on enemies, they don't behave the same way getting shot in VFR as in Doom 2016.

In addition to that, they are missing some basic settings for left-hand use, customizable controlls and other adjustments that should be there as in most other VR-titles.

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#12 Posted by Marcsman (3823 posts) -

@wallrick said:
@themanwithnoplan said:

I wonder if the people saying it's bad are really just tired of shooters in Vr.

I played on the Vive

It's badly implemented shooting. Basicly, most VR-games make sure the bullet leaves the gun wherever it is, and it has a travel-path like a real bulllet would. In Doom VFR you got a inivisible bubble around you wich determines based on your guns position where you're "aiming", making it feel more like a light-gun game from the arcades. Aiming doesnt help, firstly becouse of the way the shooting works, and the game focuses the Graphics on your gun wich makes Everything else blurry if you try to aim down sights. All enemies that get roughly 1-2 meters within your range will be within your "bubble", so you can't shoot them. You have to either teleport/dash, or use the pushback-mechanic, wich in my opinion feels like an afterthought to solve the issue with how the shooting works in the game.

I need to play Doom 2016 again to confirm this, but Doom VFR game doesnt feel/run like the original Doom. Weapons doesnt have the same impact on enemies, they don't behave the same way getting shot in VFR as in Doom 2016.

In addition to that, they are missing some basic settings for left-hand use, customizable controlls and other adjustments that should be there as in most other VR-titles.

That's why I used the dualshock instead of wands. Aiming is a breeze with camera tracking your head. I never got so many headshots in the 2016 Doom as I have this one. I did have a imp get up in my face and that was difficult, but with the free roaming option the dualshock gives. It was not that difficult to back away and shotgun that rotten imp. One big difference IMO is that Doom VFR is much easier the 2016 Doom.

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#13 Posted by wallrick (21 posts) -

@marcsman: Never gave contoller a try, if that was an option on Vive. But it seems to do the game right for PSVR users.
Returned the game so I wont be able to try it. I do hope they polish it for eventual future purchase.

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#14 Posted by whitegreyblack (1953 posts) -

I watched a video last night of a fellow playing Doom VFR on PSVR with the aim controller, showing the mix of free run & warping movement and it turned around my opinion on the game. Looked much more fluid and fun. (I won't link it here because I personally found the guy to be pretty grating despite it being a pretty decent look at the game)

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#15 Edited by Marcsman (3823 posts) -

I cannot get into with the Aim controller. Your left arm holds a grenade the whole time, it's very off putting. Sunshine Arizona did the Aim controller justice, Doom VFR did not.

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#16 Posted by FrostyRyan (2920 posts) -

I don't know. One of the defining things about Doom is the speed and chaos you manage while shooting. This seems slow and...that's just not doom. it's a weird shooter in the doom setting.

I love VR but I don't think I want this.

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#17 Posted by kidblue (13 posts) -

I have no idea how a VR version of Doom would feel. The concept itself is awesome and it's probably kind of like one of those self fulfilling prophecies where a game from a certain genre, born on a certain day gets its go-ahead. I mean, it was the first mega successful fps out there. As much love as I have for Doom, I will probably end up sitting this one out seeing as I lack the necessary setup to play it in its glory. We shanty Irish are less occupied with cutting edge technology and more concerned with the thing where the hand meets the mouth i.e. peeling potatoes for the man. Even that is ridiculous. OH MY GAWD I NEED $$$!!!

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#18 Posted by kidblue (13 posts) -

I'm instantly glad I wrote the comment above. What could be better than playing a thrice copied title with a full headset. And I didn't enjoy Duke Nukem 3D when it was an exhibit. Hope that gives you guys some insght. But I did like Doom Resurrection.

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