If you're still running a pentium 4 and the equivelant graphics card and memory, and you still expect the latest games to run just fine on it, then you clearly don't know much about PC's.
Dragon Age: Origins
Game » consists of 20 releases. Released Nov 03, 2009
Dragon Age: Origins is an epic fantasy role-playing game featuring a rich story, personality-driven characters, and tactical, bloody combat. It is considered a spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate series.
Dragon Age System Requirements - WTF?!
Yeah, like anyone said it should "run just fine" (whatever that means) on a Pentium 4. Why bother coming here with your strawman arguments? This is a game coming two years after Crysis, not looking nearly as good as that, which is somewhat understandable given the genre, yet still requiring far more advanced hardware, even though it aims to "run just fine" on a 360. That is all. If you're fine with paying for hardware that's never really exploited, great for you. You can leave others in peace without making stupid assumptions about how much they know.
Fallout 3 for comparison is one of the most unoptimised pieces of shit I've encountered, looks ugly not due to low spec goals, but due to sheer incompetence as the texture resolutions, polycounts, shader usage, etc, are simply sky-high, yet even that has more modest requirements.
" Yeah, like anyone said it should "run just fine" (whatever that means) on a Pentium 4. Why bother coming here with your strawman arguments? This is a game coming two years after Crysis, not looking nearly as good as that, which is somewhat understandable given the genre, yet still requiring far more advanced hardware, even though it aims to "run just fine" on a 360. That is all. If you're fine with paying for hardware that's never really exploited, great for you. You can leave others in peace without making stupid assumptions about how much they know. "
" What a stupid argument. You have absolutely no idea what the reason for the needed horsepower could be. You have no possible logical justification for the assertion that Bioware is producing an un-optimized game and wasting resources. Your entire argument's base is complete bullshit. "
" The minimum system requirements seem fine to me. Granted, I'm looking at the one for XP, because let's face it... Vista is really terrible for gaming. "
Go check average computer specs, and the min/recommended specs of every Bioware game on PC after Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal and you'll find they've always been above normal. From Neverwinter Nights to the PC release of Mass Effect; their requirements are always higher than average for PC games.
Sorry to break it to you, but the Netburst (Pentium 4) architecture left the market 3 years ago. Even then it was a highly inefficient architecture and was destined to fail (it's the primary reason that AMD pulled ahead in performance for a time).
I can understand why they would completely ignore it, although you might be able to get the game to run on Pentium D (NetBurst dual core).
I don't think they're really leaving behind that many gamers, either. See the CPU portion of the Steam Hardware Survey. 73.35% surveyed have 2 or more CPU cores.
" Sorry to break it to you, but the Netburst (Pentium 4) architecture left the market 3 years ago. Even then it was a highly inefficient architecture and was destined to fail (it's the primary reason that AMD pulled ahead in performance for a time).
I can understand why they would completely ignore it, although you might be able to get the game to run on Pentium D (NetBurst dual core).
I don't think they're really leaving behind that many gamers, either. See the CPU portion of the Steam Hardware Survey. 73.35% surveyed have 2 or more CPU cores. "
Also, in the same way we can't know if "minimum" will result in an acceptable playable experience, we also don't know if "recommended" will mean max settings and not simply a "very pretty, very playable" result. We'll have to wait and see for both, for now going by what is common.
"If it's not evident from all we've seen of the game, then it's not reason enough. We haven't seen spectacular vistas, we haven't seen incredibly crowded battlefields, we haven't seen anything that justifies specifications far above anything else currently on the market. The ability of the game to run just fine on a 360 sure points to what I have been writing, instead of your nonexistent counter argument. What's your grand argument for thinking it's not unoptimised again? Oh, right, "I'm getting a new PC so I don't care" was it? Well, you can stop caring for real then."
"And only 11 percent have the recommended Quad specs. We also don't know if that includes hyperthreading enabled processors as they may show as dual core setups when they really aren't, and that would include most if not all of the Pentium 4 range. So, taking the survey at face value, only 11 percent of gamers can play the game with the recommended quality experience. That is sure to skew the sales statistics in favor of the consoles and result in even less PC support for their next game. Not good.
Also, in the same way we can't know if "minimum" will result in an acceptable playable experience, we also don't know if "recommended" will mean max settings and not simply a "very pretty, very playable" result. We'll have to wait and see for both, for now going by what is common. "
Hopefully they're just bucking the trend and posting specs how they should be done. That is to say, 'Recommended' should allow a solid framerate with every setting on highest. 'Minimum' should allow a solid framerate with every setting on lowest.
Vista has always been shit for game performance and it's good that they recognise that. Sub that Quad for a Duo and I'm sure you'll still end up with a better looking game than the 360.
These requirements are LOW, except for the Pentium 4 exclusion (which I've noticed in only the most recent titles). The 360 and PS3 have nice CPUs, and it seems to be harder for developers to scale down on the CPU side, so it makes sense.
Looks like this is one game I couldn't play on my PC even if I wanted to.
What the eff did you expect? Get a better computer, if it means that much to you. Do you realize how old Pentium 4s are? How outdated that tech is? There's a reason for dual core processors; to offload different tasks onto different cores simultaneously. Doing both tasks at once on a single processor means multiple passes to calculate means lower framerate.
The age of single core processors is over, as far as gaming. There's always the possibility that it will run on a computer without one, assuming the rest of your specs are okay, but that's somewhat doubtful, considering the game was probably built around the necessity of at least two cores.
Do you know how cheap you can build a decent dual or even quad core system these days? Especially if you're willing to go the AMD route. Yes, you do have to upgrade your PC every now and then if you want to keep playing the latest games. That's been true since the dawn of PC gaming. That, along with piracy, is what caused the shift in attention over to consoles. If you really don't want to upgrade, then wait for the console port. Yes, it is supposedly coming.
"It's not really a "supposedly" thing, they are coming simultaneously. Brad even has a hands-on of the 360 version up on the site, albeit a very brief and general one. "
Well I remember hearing about the console versions being a definite from somewhere, but I added the "supposedly" just in case it was all a dream.
It's a shame that they never list "high settings" even until now. Right now my system tops all those specs except the CPU.. currently a 2.0 dual core. Recommended settings are nothing, it actually means the stuff that allows the game to run fine without experiencing alot of lag. It's basically not "recommend settings" friendly if one is to set it on high with shaders and anti aliasing.
What's with all this Pentium talk ?? People still have that in their gaming PCs ?
@Scieran: Buy a decent heatsink and overclock that dual core, it will make a diffrence. I think this game will run well on dual core CPUs too, since that's what most PC gamers have in their system, and Bioware would not ignore that fact.
Lol have you seen the specs for "Blade and Soul"?
I can't seem to find them, but one of them is "24 inch monitor".
Pentium 4's are 9 years old, and not even in production right now. Core2Duo's are already 3 years old.
I have a over 2 year old computer, and I'm pretty confident that I'll be able to run the game with near-max details at my native resolution.
Complaining about system requirements has it's limits. Remember the times when games started using 3D acceleration and you where in deep brown substances if you didn't have a Voodoo? Or when a better processor actually mattered when playing games, and you would upgrade your Pentium 200 to a Pentium 233?
PC games today, aside from a few exceptions, are actually very easygoing on the requirements as to not alienate the audience and decrease the group of potential customers, prime example being that to date there is only 1 DirectX 10 exclusive game (Stormrise), because hardly anyone has Vista (compared to XP).
3 years ago we had a pretty significant upgrade in computer power, and although I'm far from thinking it's of the same magnitude as the 3D accelerators I just mentioned, there are certainly some parallels so the people that have a 6 year old computer... time for an upgrade. That's just how PC gaming was, is, and probably will be.
" Good luck playing it with the minimum specs. "Um, what do mean by that did you even read my post. Almost required dosen't mean I have to run it at minimum, thats not how a PC works.
The only thing i miss is a quad core but I have a fast dual core that will make up for it.
You know, there are at least three ways to alleviate this problem: A. Get a better computer. B: Get the Console Version and accept that there will be some sacrifices made. C: Don't buy the game.
I think I will be going with B.
Because obviously the problem I mention in the OP doesn't include your B choice as part of the problem acknowledging it's what many people would do, and isn't also irrelevant to A, considering I personally do have a capable PC. So, you know, you could read the topics you reply to.
Someday we'll all laugh about these requirements. Someday in the future when they make computers that can actually play this.
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