YO MAN SOUNDS LIKE THE XBONE IS XBONED

But seriously this, there were plenty of games I want to play and some I have no interest in. Making it basically every gaming console ever.

Just want to point out that the Drivatar has been around in some form since the first Forza came out eight years ago.

As the level of parity across Microsoft and Sony's consoles increases, the launch price comparison only becomes more important.

$449 puts Sony in an okay spot, but under $400 would be a huge advantage....IF they can afford to do that.

No surprises and nothing really looked next-gen or gave you that "wtf!" reaction. Glad they showed games but most were multi-platform games that will sure run better on a PC or PS4. Below was the best thing they showed and they barely showed 10 seconds of it. :[

People are only hating because MS was on top last gen. I actually thought the streaming/twitch.tv intergration was cool :)

Seems a fair assesment. Nothing too revolutionary, but that is hard to judge from trailer. What we do know is that a good amount of the audience (me included) will wait till at least 2014 to get One

Yeah considering the TV stuff is going to be US only to start and I have no interest in the Kinect I'd have a hard time paying $500 for something I'll be using 60% of.

That said our opinions on this could change when Sony reveals their price.

Swery and "roguelike" certainly were surprising things to hear and Titanfall looks amazing so far.

$500 if the rest of the shit they were pulling wasn't already a deal breaker that sure the fuck is

This seems about right Alex. They definitely brought the games, but they spent a lot of time on the expected and boring and, with the exception of Titanfall, the exclusives didn't have much meat to them or were entirely uninteresting. Spark, Quantum Break, and the Insomniac game all were intriguing, but I have no idea what to think about them really.

Then the $500 gut punch. Not entirely unexpected, but combined with my negative view of Microsoft and Live over the last few years, my distrust of whether they really do "love indies," and my general disinterest in the focus of the console, and I'm still not even close to paying that much for XBONE. Titanfall can only do so much.

ETA: And the guy pausing for applause after announcing the price point was just plain hilarious.

I wasn't wowed by their presentation, but I did think a lot of the games looked cool so it wasn't a letdown for me.

I'm guessing the slogan behind the Xbox One is "Family Action Real Time"?

Hey, Europe, it's me, Microsoft. You remember all that cool TV-Stuff we showed you earlier? Yeah, well, you won't be able to use that. But we got good news too: You will pay quite a much more for the xbox than our US customers, you know, the ones that actually get to use all those cool features. Isn't that awesome?

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Europe?

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Europe? Where are you going?

*door slams*

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Thank you, thank you! ... I'll be here all week.

That price plus the DRM on physical media puts the Xbox One squarely into the "do not purchase" category for me. If Sony has the same price and the same DRM restrictions, it looks like I'll be settling with a WiiU/PC combo this generation. I also wasn't too impressed with the general visuals...sure, there was some stuff that looked like it just barely couldn't be done on current gen consoles, but nothing that really screamed "the new generation is here!" In fairness, the PS4 will probably have the same problem there, games are just already too expensive to make on current gen hardware, let alone a step up.

I laugh at Microsoft's currency conversion skills. £429/$680 USD for the Xbox One?

A console which isn't going to have any of the TV stuff or sports stuff for a long time after the launch in the US or possibly ever with regards to the sports stuff. I can't see it being applied to the World Cup or other applicable sports outside of the US.

I like the games; I love the games. They rev my engine but not at that price.

I think not.

Phantom Pain looks amazing, easily my favorite of the MS conference. There were some pretty solid exclusives shown and overall a lot of games that I want to play. 500 dollars is a bit steep though, so I definitely won't be there on day one. But man...sooner or later I'm going to need Dead Rising 3.

Not bad considering I was pretty much decided on a PS4 before the conference. I'll own both eventually but which one to get first is back to being a tough decision. Bring on the Sony conference!

If you're outside the US, you wouldn't be paying $500. You'd be paying about $650.

Some of the exclusives seem cool, but not enough to buy the system. And I'm not going to feed into MS doubling down on shitty motion controlled gaming, so I'll either be going with PS4 or a PC.

$500 USD doesn't seem like a mass market price for a games console, but it does seem like a reasonable early adopter price. For reference, the 360 (w/20GB HDD) was released in 2005 for $399, or $476 in inflation-adjusted dollars.

Forza 5 might be enough to make me an early adopter, but I also want to see a game that makes a convincing case for the new Kinect camera (since it's no longer an optional accessory).

Probably somewhat comparable at launch, with the $500 PC being slightly worse performance wise.

But look at something like Halo 3 vs. Halo 4. As the console gets more and more development time and more optimized engines, it will blow the shit out of any current PC in the $500-800 dollar range. Obviously the PC has the ability to be upgraded, but that's the way it always works.

The theme of the conference seemed to be; let's copy Sony;

Let's give away games!

LBP we got that!

Insomniac they are with us!

Journey? How about Master Chief!

I was kind of surprised by the amount of 3rd party exclusives they are getting, also the lack of Call of Duty seemed a bit crazy, they did cover it extensively in the last event, but not even a mention today was odd.

Ryse looked really dumb.

Spark was interesting, but I can't see myself ever spending enough time with a game like that to get anything meaningful out of it.

The only thing that interested me as far as exclusives go was Quantum Break, and they haven't shown any game play footage yet so who knows.

The euro price always looks high as they include sales tax - US price doesn't. It will still average out $100 dearer but with import tax and exchange rates - this is expected.

As with this Xbox, I think I'll wait until the generation after this one to pick up a system. Doing the same so I can play it's exclusives and whatnot. Remedy's looks interesting, but not $499 interesting. Stickin with Sony this time round.

I think the conference did its job well. Games were there, personally they ranged from good to great for me. But that's going on trailers and a bit of gameplay. I don't know how they'll actually turn out but for me that's the expectation of early next-gen games.

Either way I don't think I'm gonna be buying a new console for a while. PS4 looks pretty great and I would say Xbox One looks solid bordering on good.

There were enough interesting games shown that I'm pretty confident that I'll be picking one up at launch. I just can't see myself missing out on Forza, Halo and Quantum Break.

If they're going to force people online to watch ads on their home screen while still charging 60 dollars a year for XBox Live, a 500 dollar starting price is crazy.

It makes Sony's "599$" thing seem almost quaint, since you're going to be spending hundreds more than that in the long run with the Xbox One.

Spark looks a lot like an extension of Kodu Game Lab, a proof of concept that Microsoft R&D put up on XBLIG and the GFWL Store, i.e. two places nobody would ever find it.

Don't we Europeans pretty much always pay more for stuff like this than Americans? Here in Norway it's supposed to cost 5000 NOK, which by today's exchange rate is 867.65 USD. Not cheap.

That said, I'll probably buy this thing at some point. But I never buy consoles at launch (earliest hardware often suck and has problems, launch games...ugh), so if you give me a year, I'll buy it. Same goes for the PS4, which I'm pretty sure will cost $449, and close to the same price as the Xbox One in Europe.

edit: As for the event? Eh, I'm not sure. Not many games interested me, and the multimedia stuff is kinda useless for me. But I'm sure I'll warm to it: It does seem quite expensive though, and if Sony somehow manages to keep their console to $399 they've got a HUGE advantage right out of the gate. Interesting times.

As a european Xbox one hasn't interested me so far, then with news of polices making it worse. And now the price I can say for certain if I am going to get one it will be a long time in the future

Amazon uk listing xbone controller at £89.99. That's nutts.

This years E3 has made me really excited about my PC.

I really can't understand all the hype for Below. There were like 20 seconds of gameplay and it looked okay but nothing crazy.

i'm with you @alex- Below looks dope! and noticing that Jim Guthrie is doing the soundtrack seals the deal.

It is still unclear to me which of these games are actual Xbone exclusives and which they are just acting like are Xbone exclusives.

@playastation: damned either way. The conference was pretty rad

The PS3's original launch price was also €499 for the small HDD one and €599 for the big version. It somehow still "won" over here. I'm really not surprised or think 500 bucks is out of line. Hell, some of my less hardcore gamer friends expected the new consoles to be 700-800 Euro.

Below and Titanfall both look cool but not $500+ cool

We get fucked most of the time, not every time though. I remember Witcher 2 didnt do the 1:1 transfer from euro to dollar ... even if it happens often, doesnt make it a good thing.

@omdata: Xbox Live Gold is not going anywhere, unfortunately.

@kdr_11k: Finally someone remembers Kudo! <3

@alex: With State of Decay (already out), Disney Infinity, GTAV, Dark Souls 2 and Rayman Legends (and the potential of a late-in-the-lifecycle DC4 release?) on the horizon I'm starting to rethink my whole "done with the 360 thing".

I wonder if this "Ultra-slim" release is related at all to these feelings I've suddenly been having.

I think Microsoft did what it had to do - show games. Now it's up to the video game playing masses to decide whether the argument for their new console is convincing enough.

The title gave me a good laugh. Good stuff, Alex.

@fengshuigod said:

Me too.

A lot of the best stuff they showed off weren't exclusives: MGS5, Titanfall (well, coming to PC & 360), Battlefield, some of those indie games likely will end up on Steam if not PSN. Does this mean GTA5 is at Sony tonight? Anyway, Halo is far off, Forza made no mention if things like custom paint jobs are returning, all they showed off was a mode in which you don't even play it. No Gears or Fable or Crackdown. Still don't care about waiting 2-4 weeks for COD or Battlefield maps. Weird conference.

Wrong. The Internet explodes because Microsoft, already in a bad spot image-wise, puts on a show with about 3 cool games in a sea of unoriginality, completely neglects to assuage people's misgivings re. the used games debacle, and somehow feels $499 is a justifiable price point.

Bonkers.

Well, nothing of interest for me except for Titanfall. That looks great. But if it's on the PC I may just go in that direction. Looking forward to hear what Sony has in store.

$500? That'd buy half a GTX Titan!

Great showing from MS for sure. Lots of great looking games ! Titan Assault looked fucking incredible as did Quantum Break (hope to see some in depth gameplay..) Forza and Ryse at launch ? nice. Also good to have confirmation of Witcher 3. Too much promising stuff overall.

The price does not really bother me. I was thinking it might be even more than it is. The pack in Kinect is given to take the price higher.. Sony might do the smart thing and not force the camera to everyone and in the process have cheaper console with more power.

MGS5 and Titanfall were the only good things shown and they aren't even exclusive. Capcom why have you ruined Dead Rising?