The EVE Online Bank Job

  • 82 results
  • 1
  • 2
Avatar image for jeff
Jeff

6292

Forum Posts

106663

Wiki Points

176660

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 20

Edited By Jeff  Staff
It was the perfect crime. When you're assisting in the administration of a player-run bank in EVE Online, billions of ISK (the in-game currency of EVE), flow through your fingertips. Billions! And a player named Xabier decided that he had to make a go of it. So he's apparently embezzled 80 billion ISK and hit the road.

Read this bit from Massively's coverage of this event and see how many sentences it takes you before you feel like you live in Crazy Town, USA. (Sugar. Baby.)
Massively contacted Xabier today, who stated that the value of assets taken from Dynasty Banking was 86 billion ISK, adding that the total value is now 106.2 billion ISK due to how it was invested. He also stressed to Massively that he's used some of this ISK to repay his friends who invested with Dynasty Banking. We also spoke with Manalapan, the Chairman of Dynasty Banking, who placed the embezzled amount at 82.5 billion ISK. Manalapan has released a statement in hopes of quelling rumors related to the theft, which comes in the wake of two senior members of Dynasty Banking stepping down from their roles.
To me, MMO games involve right-clicking on things and swinging swords at stuff until it falls over. This sort of futuristic Trade-Wars-but-not-a-BBS-door-game stuff just makes my eyes glaze over. We fear what we don't understand. But how awesome is it that a group of players can just decide to run a bank, and then one of them can just decide he's had enough and bail on the whole thing with a bunch of the cash? I mean, since it's all in-world, it's not like there can be any actual real-world repercussions. But I bet this guy will have crazy men in spaceships following him for the rest of his EVE Online life. All this kind of makes me want to play a little EVE Online for myself... just so I can one day steal a bunch of money and blast off into the eternal night of outer space.

Read the full story on Massively for info on how this actually impacts players who invested their hard-earned ISKs in this venture.
Avatar image for jeff
Jeff

6292

Forum Posts

106663

Wiki Points

176660

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 20

#1  Edited By Jeff  Staff
It was the perfect crime. When you're assisting in the administration of a player-run bank in EVE Online, billions of ISK (the in-game currency of EVE), flow through your fingertips. Billions! And a player named Xabier decided that he had to make a go of it. So he's apparently embezzled 80 billion ISK and hit the road.

Read this bit from Massively's coverage of this event and see how many sentences it takes you before you feel like you live in Crazy Town, USA. (Sugar. Baby.)
Massively contacted Xabier today, who stated that the value of assets taken from Dynasty Banking was 86 billion ISK, adding that the total value is now 106.2 billion ISK due to how it was invested. He also stressed to Massively that he's used some of this ISK to repay his friends who invested with Dynasty Banking. We also spoke with Manalapan, the Chairman of Dynasty Banking, who placed the embezzled amount at 82.5 billion ISK. Manalapan has released a statement in hopes of quelling rumors related to the theft, which comes in the wake of two senior members of Dynasty Banking stepping down from their roles.
To me, MMO games involve right-clicking on things and swinging swords at stuff until it falls over. This sort of futuristic Trade-Wars-but-not-a-BBS-door-game stuff just makes my eyes glaze over. We fear what we don't understand. But how awesome is it that a group of players can just decide to run a bank, and then one of them can just decide he's had enough and bail on the whole thing with a bunch of the cash? I mean, since it's all in-world, it's not like there can be any actual real-world repercussions. But I bet this guy will have crazy men in spaceships following him for the rest of his EVE Online life. All this kind of makes me want to play a little EVE Online for myself... just so I can one day steal a bunch of money and blast off into the eternal night of outer space.

Read the full story on Massively for info on how this actually impacts players who invested their hard-earned ISKs in this venture.
Avatar image for superezekiel
superezekiel

64

Forum Posts

60

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 2

#2  Edited By superezekiel

If there's anything cooler than calling first and adding nothing to the discussion, I don't know it.

And if this happened in WoW, he'd be fucking arrested.
Avatar image for themikelguereca
TheMikelGuereca

118

Forum Posts

364

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 4

#3  Edited By TheMikelGuereca

This is like the Tea Pot Dome Scandal... except in space!

Avatar image for alphazero
Alphazero

1653

Forum Posts

2448

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 10

#4  Edited By Alphazero

Woah. Freaky-deaky. I was just talking about Trade Wars 2002.

This might have some real world repercussions... in my brief stint playing Eve I received roughly ten billion messages offering to sell me ISK for real Obamadollars.

Now how do I transfer my ISK over to my Fable 2 character again?

Avatar image for jayge_
Jayge_

10269

Forum Posts

2045

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 3

#5  Edited By Jayge_

Yeah, Eve Online has a long history of things like this going on. And that's why it's one of the greatest and most unique MMOs ever made.

Avatar image for slippery
Slippery

106

Forum Posts

679

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6  Edited By Slippery

That's the beauty of EVE, this kind of thing is practically encouraged (Doesn't hurt that everytime it does more people start playing).

Not the game for me though, far too slow paced.

Avatar image for arbitrarywater
ArbitraryWater

15947

Forum Posts

5508

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 58

#7  Edited By ArbitraryWater

What can I say? People who are into EVE online are really into EVE online. Enough to do a virtual crime in a virtual world.

Avatar image for mattbodega
mattbodega

2281

Forum Posts

34417

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 4

#8  Edited By mattbodega

Maybe Online MMO's like EVE have it right.
WOW is such a tightly controlled experience- there doesn't exist anything in the game that requires the same amount of user participation as a player run bank- but this kind of wild theft is totally BADASS. Think about how awesome it must be knowing that this player ripped off a fake corporation for billions of dollars.
Maybe leaving a world in the hands of players would allow more things like this to happen. That game would be totally lawless, but it would also be AWESOME.

Avatar image for andrewb
AndrewB

7816

Forum Posts

82

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 16

#9  Edited By AndrewB

Can you be sent to prison for virtual embezzling?

Avatar image for crono
Crono

2762

Forum Posts

-1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 6

#10  Edited By Crono

There are SOOOOOOOOO many of these kinds of stories from EVE;  I love to see these kinds of amazing stories happen.  I wish more MMOs had the balls EVE does.

Avatar image for yellowchu
YellowChu

26

Forum Posts

93

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#11  Edited By YellowChu

That's like awesome. Steal some virtual cash, in a virtual world, also hilarious that virtual people are "stepping down" from the virtual bank.

Avatar image for seram
seram

200

Forum Posts

3

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12  Edited By seram

One of these days, this game will become reality and our current lives will become virtual reality.

Avatar image for seram
seram

200

Forum Posts

3

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13  Edited By seram

One of these days, this game will become reality and our current existence will become virtual reality.

Avatar image for dauragon
Dauragon

571

Forum Posts

30

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#14  Edited By Dauragon

EVE is full of this stuff. If I recall correctly there was this huge starship heist that involved one faction merging with another faction and spending pretty much a whole year accumulating money and ships just so they could betray the other faction and run off with all of said ships and money.


EVE online is awesome.

Avatar image for deactivated-58efb53e06a03
deactivated-58efb53e06a03

1365

Forum Posts

3153

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 1

Awesome, wheres Jason Statham when you need him?

Avatar image for thejadeangel
TheJadeAngel

150

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#16  Edited By TheJadeAngel

Wow imagine what they could do with real world companies . Macdonalds employee embezzles  20 billion dollars , found yachting in the Greek Isles .

Avatar image for ninjasquirrel
NinjaSquirrel

249

Forum Posts

57

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 6

#17  Edited By NinjaSquirrel

That's why eve online will live forever in its own little corner of the mmo world. Awesome stories like this.

Avatar image for claude
Claude

16672

Forum Posts

1047

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 18

#18  Edited By Claude  Online

I tried it for about an hour and it's above and beyond me... or maybe time allowed... and you gain skill when not online.

I thought the ISK/virtual money was worth a certain % in real money, because you can sell it. I see a case.

Avatar image for andrewb
AndrewB

7816

Forum Posts

82

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 16

#19  Edited By AndrewB

Oooo! Oooo! I have another! When's the movie coming out?

Avatar image for cjmhockey
cjmhockey

245

Forum Posts

10

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20  Edited By cjmhockey

Haha... awesome

Avatar image for geinarm
geinarm

6

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21  Edited By geinarm

I love this game

Avatar image for aspiringandy
AspiringAndy

337

Forum Posts

5346

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 4

#22  Edited By AspiringAndy

Wow, I never new that EVE was that deep.
Too bad the client is like, 12 GB..
Otherwise I would play it.
Avatar image for spikedelight
SpikeDelight

776

Forum Posts

2300

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#23  Edited By SpikeDelight

I've gotta say... Bravo to that guy! You really caught everybody with their pants down! Nice one lol!

Avatar image for nathhaw
NathHaw

2874

Forum Posts

1877

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 1

#24  Edited By NathHaw

EVE is one of those games that I occasionally return to play.  I've never played a game that people take so seriously.  It's rather complex and certainly very different than almost any other game in both good and bad ways.  I'd imagine this guy probably has some bounties on his head at this moment as well as an adoring fan base.

Avatar image for john1912
John1912

2508

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#25  Edited By John1912
Avatar image for shadow
Shadow

5360

Forum Posts

1463

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 5

#26  Edited By Shadow

mkay...and what's to stop the developers from just erasing that money from existance and refunding everything to its rightful owner?

Avatar image for packfan104l4
packfan104l4

230

Forum Posts

409

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#27  Edited By packfan104l4

Well for you people that have never played the game.  If you converted the amount of ISK stolen to actual cash value (you can by a Game Time Card and sell it for ISK for $34.99 for around 670 million ISK atm):

3.1 million US dollars.

That's one HELL of a pull


@Shadow

Because it's part of the game.  Hell I've stolen money all of the time in the game.  I steal rigs, I steal cans, I steal ore.  I steal more than I buy?  Have I gotten one item taken away by CCP.  Nope!  Cuz it's part of the game.

Avatar image for toowalrus
toowalrus

13407

Forum Posts

29

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#28  Edited By toowalrus

$3,100,000 in game time? Holy shit dude. How awesome is that? He should open one of those ISK selling websites and sell it for cheaper than the game time actually costs.

Avatar image for beemac420
BeeMac420

30

Forum Posts

141

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29  Edited By BeeMac420

What is this game? Wall street training?

Avatar image for remixrunixlp
remixrunixlp

110

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 33

#30  Edited By remixrunixlp

Though during my short time in its universe proved EVE was far from my type of game, it is these very things that make me wish I could invest the time in it necessary to become this kind of asshole.

For those who don't realize this, EVE's developers love letting their players create and mold their universe into whatever it is they choose. Only occasionally, when their players start to get too smart and try to alter very basic game mechanics (like, i dunno, taking over safe areas of space typically populated by new players) does EVE's developers step in and administer punishment...but even then its with a twist. Instead of cancelling your account of what you've done to the game, they usually show up in force sporting the most badass ships available and completely destroy everything the offender has of value.

I guarantee you this game will still be kicking and screaming far longer than any other MMO on the market because of the open minded premise it offers all its gamers who can commit the amount of time needed to pull crap like this off.

Avatar image for kontrapunkt
Kontrapunkt

424

Forum Posts

728

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#31  Edited By Kontrapunkt

All too real... Man.

Avatar image for blackout62
Blackout62

2239

Forum Posts

84

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 11

#32  Edited By Blackout62

Shame that's not the worst thing thats happened in EVE.

http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=180867&site=pcg

on another note: the guy had the style to leave the company quoting Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy,  apparently his bio now states “Thanks for all the fish”.

Avatar image for fracture
Fracture

271

Forum Posts

5

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 4

#33  Edited By Fracture

Eve online would be awesome if it weren't so mind numbingly boring. But if your into it's really lazy ass pace it's great for this kind of stuff.

Avatar image for llyr
llyr

67

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

#34  Edited By llyr

I tried to get into EVE but I found the whole setup of the menus and everything extremely confusing.

Avatar image for sekoku
Sekoku

106

Forum Posts

7

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 17

#35  Edited By Sekoku

EveZZzzzZZzzzzZZzzz...

Wake me up when Ultima Online comes back and does space faster than Eve does.

Avatar image for hef
Hef

1238

Forum Posts

486

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 7

#36  Edited By Hef

He could be the CEO of a real company! He's apparently really good as what they do best; embezzeling!

Avatar image for meatsim
MeatSim

11200

Forum Posts

150

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 21

#37  Edited By MeatSim

That is crazy in a cool sorta way.

Avatar image for zityz
zityz

2365

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38  Edited By zityz

That's crazy business, literally.

I wanted to try out EVE cause there really is a lack of future/space rpgs out there but it doesn't look like the type to start off with this late in the game.

Avatar image for soroushy
Soroushy

3

Forum Posts

105

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39  Edited By Soroushy

Oh, crap, Jeff. You mentioned Trade Wars 2002. Then there was P.L.A.N.E.T.S.... then L.O.R.D.... man, I miss those days.

Avatar image for mike
mike

18010

Forum Posts

23067

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -1

User Lists: 6

#40  Edited By mike
Packfan104L4 said:
"Well for you people that have never played the game.  If you converted the amount of ISK stolen to actual cash value (you can by a Game Time Card and sell it for ISK for $34.99 for around 670 million ISK atm):

3.1 million US dollars.
Whoah dude, let's break down the math.

86,000,000,000 Isk embezzled, right? 

If a game time card can be purchased for approximately 67,000,000 Isk, then the guy can buy about 1300 game time cards.  That works out to a little over $45,000.00 in actual money.  Not that it matters, I'm sure CCP would simply ban him or take the Isk back long before that ever happened.
Avatar image for cubical
Cubical

667

Forum Posts

2283

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#41  Edited By Cubical

In EVE you can  higher players to kill the dude who stole your cash.  Happens all the time in this game  there was another large job done before i played the game free for like 4 months found it more fun to watch the crazyness of people backstabbing mostly since i was to weak to do anything cool like get money for killing people.

The other jobs story is Slightly more entertaing since it invloles revenge undercover spys  with secret codewords ,and people left floating in space before being murdered on request of the "client", and people stealing rare large battleships  besides money stealing.

more heist/assasin/murder stories here.


I
http://eve.klaki.net/heist/


http://eve.klaki.net/heist/page-1.jpg


http://eve.klaki.net/heist/page-2.jpg



http://eve.klaki.net/heist/page-3.jpg


http://eve.klaki.net/heist/page-4.jpg




No Caption Provided
Avatar image for slique
Slique

144

Forum Posts

20

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#42  Edited By Slique

Argh! Damn you, Cubical. I was just about to post the link to that story myself. I absolutely adore it, and everytime I see it it makes me want to get into EVE.

Avatar image for kidman
kidman

579

Forum Posts

21

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#43  Edited By kidman

aaahhh, love the 'butterfly' touch there Jeff;) CXT baby!

Avatar image for vimes
Vimes

2

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#44  Edited By Vimes

Whilst its a crappy thing to do it speaks volumes for the free player run narrative in Eve-Online. I play in a mmo with similar freedom though its a lot more fast paced and massive. Beyond Protocol is a Scifi MMORTS and you can find info elsewhere so I wont bore you, but the game has been live near 3 months and blood feuds over folk stealing all th emoney from the guild bank have already happened and are very much affecting the overall narrative. The devs are active and encourage folks to stretch the boundaries, and have tried to supply us with enough tools to pretty much design/customise everything - so many ideas have sprung up the devs never even considered but love and endorsed such actions.
I am finding that with this freedom comes some very good role play - so much so id declare scripted  and dev made narrative games like WoW to be 3d platform games not mmorpg's. Player defined narrative games like Eve and Beyond Protocol are awesome and truly blend hard core and casual gamers well.

Avatar image for ahoodedfigure
ahoodedfigure

4572

Forum Posts

41781

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 64

#45  Edited By ahoodedfigure

There are no real world repercussions?  Maybe if people didn't already buy and sell ISK in side accounts in exchange for real money, or spend a monthly fee in order to accrue this fake cash, only to have it stolen.  That seems fairly real to me, even if the solution is something like "stop playing EVE"

What struck me as surreal is you don't tend to get open interviews with real-life crooks about how much money they stole before they've been acquitted or sentenced to prison, and even then they're often cagey about it.  This dude actually said he had MORE than was believed, and he made a point to say he'd payed back some investors, as though that excused it! 

I find the whole thing amusing, but games like this, despite their saying they're player run sims, tend to push what we consider to be crime to the extreme simply because there's little in the way of enforcement of the law, there.  Punishment isn't always a deterrent, but it sure as hell would be for many of these people.

Avatar image for pause
pause422

6346

Forum Posts

16

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#46  Edited By pause422

This is so goddamn awesome.

Avatar image for jackel2072
Jackel2072

2510

Forum Posts

370

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 11

#47  Edited By Jackel2072

this little story sold me! im downloading the 14 day free trail and giving the game a shot!

Avatar image for johnny5
Johnny5

1436

Forum Posts

876

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#48  Edited By Johnny5

When they say virtual "world" they mean it.

One of the reasons why Eve is pretty amazing and scary at the same time.

Avatar image for penguindust
penguindust

13126

Forum Posts

22

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#49  Edited By penguindust

So when does the crazy kid who spent weeks-on-end hunched over a terminal in some South Korean internet coffee hut show up on the doorstep of this player with a machete and a slippery grip on reality?

Avatar image for duckbutter
Duckbutter

387

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#50  Edited By Duckbutter

must be nice to see all that real world stuff happen in Eve. i tried the trial and ended up mining all day. shortly after i said "booooooooring" out loud i uninstalled it.

This edit will also create new pages on Giant Bomb for:

Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.

Comment and Save

Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Giant Bomb users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.