I just mad list of all new players
 
 -Hardcore mode; Deal with hunger, thirst, and sleep to survive the harsh wastelands.
-Iron Sights; V.A.T.S boring? Try the new iron sights and aim in on your target. Brings live action aiming to Fallout.
-Loads of Quest; 70 Side Quest, 90 Free, and (From what we know) 20 Main quest.
-Companion Wheel; Makes it easier to command your companions
-Companion Quest; Find out your companions background by helping them with one of their issues.
-New Companions; Ever NEW GAME needs a few new friends. There are 8 Companions. Here is the Companions
-Reputation System; Karma is a state of mind, Diffrent groups can see you as good or bad, even if you butchered another band of wastelanders.
-Factions; 3 main factions, and many sub-factions. Each factions you choose will affect your game
-Extensive Replay Value; From what we know, the story can end many, many ways. You can help NCR, or Ceaser Legion, or Mr. House... All fighting for Hover Dam... Or you can be neutral (Merc, or Anarchiest).
-Epic new Story; You are a courier, your mission Deliver a package to primm. That is how it starts, yet it ends with, an epic battle that can change the fate of New Vegas.
-Gambling; It is vegas, of course there will be gambling!
-Huge New Map; This is around 2000-3000 miles away from Fallout 3 (How could this be an "Expansion")
-New Monsters; Monsters un-seen in fallout 3, and mutants smarter than those in Washington D.C
-New Armour; Yes there may be some garbs from Fallout 3, but there is many new outfits special to the west coast.
-Improved AI; The AI is smarter (As we somewhat have heard)
-Improved Reload Scripts; The reload scripts are 10x more AWSOME
-Vegetation; Seeing as New Vegas it self was not hit directly by a nuclear bomb there is Plant life. Don't think that Vegas came under brutal times, because you will find out!
-New Perks; These perks will add more Variety to characters, and will also be achieved every 2 levels
-Traits; You can choose two at the start of the game, they affect play threw out the game. They have a good and a bad part to them, Choose wisley.
-Wild Wastelander; This is a trait, a special one. You are a loopy man, the weirdest encounters happen when you are traveling about in the wastelands.
-Improved Dialouge; The game was created by obsidian. Obsidian has very good dialouge that improves the comedy, the seriousness, and the sexuality of talking.
-Weapon Mods; Tired of having to find a Silenced 10mm pistol, well then weapon mods are for you. Attach Silencers, Scopes, Extra Mags, etc. To improve your gun
-Bullet types; There are regular bullets, and then there are those that kill! Now find yourself some special ammo (Open tip, etc. Im not sure of the types).
-Crafting System; No longer just craft a few weapons. There is now a wide variety of recipes. You can make food, Diffrent Ammo Types, and Weapons, with Improved Crafting.
-And even more; I'm stumped, all these new features get jumbled in my mind.

It looks awesome to me.
 
But seriously, I'm waiting for it to actually come out before I form any kind of opinion.

Also AC brotherhood is a full on game, not an add-on.
In fact it's twice of a game than AC2.

Their loss, really.
If they had any interest in it, they would have done research or wait till they have confirmation.

it will be tough to tell how the game will be.. it looks VERY similar to Fallout 3, but the interviews make it sound like they made some significant improvements.. i really hope they did something new.. i'm sick and tired of the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.. it just feels kind of old by now..

" it will be tough to tell how the game will be.. it looks VERY similar to Fallout 3, but the interviews make it sound like they made some significant improvements.. i really hope they did something new.. i'm sick and tired of the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.. it just feels kind of old by now.. "

" Their loss, really. If they had any interest in it, they would have done research or wait till they have confirmation. "

It sounds like Fallout 2. 
But sadly, it is still only an expansion. Like Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2.

I want get it, it just won't be this year.

Who care what they think? Let's enjoy the game.

" @TheRandomKo said:

" it will be tough to tell how the game will be.. it looks VERY similar to Fallout 3, but the interviews make it sound like they made some significant improvements.. i really hope they did something new.. i'm sick and tired of the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.. it just feels kind of old by now.. "

and they're totally going to use it for their next game! hooray! (bethesda, that is) "

For me new vegas seems a lot like fallout 3 with some tweaks to me. And that doesn't help much since I really disliked fallout 3. But I guess it's a good game for fallout fans ^^

I'm definitely interested in the game. It doesn't look all that great visually but hey, Fallout 3 kinda looked like crap and it turned out to be one of my favorite games ever.

"New" Las Vegas, eh? Finally, a true Wasteland sequel!

New Vegas is sort of just a full priced expansion, it's taken Fallout 3, expanded a few things, added some stuff and changed some crap.  It still seems to be using/recycling alot of textures, features, models and such from Fallout 3. Most of these 'new' features can be included, or already were included via free mods and addons via PC. There are countless realism mods that have the same effect that this new hardcore mode has, there's also companions, iron sights, weapon mods and more added, even mods that fully vegetate the world with green grass and trees.
 
Also, if I wanted to gamble I'd go to a casino or play some online game. I'll still probably buy New Vegas for Christmas or something, more Fallout is surely a good thing.
 
EDIT: Now that I think about it, some of those features are probably pretty special for console gamers that don't have access to mods.

" New Vegas is sort of just a full priced expansion, it's taken Fallout 3, expanded a few things, added some stuff and changed some crap.  It still seems to be using/recycling alot of textures, features, models and such from Fallout 3. Most of these 'new' features can be included, or already were included via free mods and addons via PC. There are countless realism mods that have the same effect that this new hardcore mode has, there's also companions, iron sights, weapon mods and more added, even mods that fully vegetate the world with green grass and trees.  Also, if I wanted to gamble I'd go to a casino or play some online game. I'll still probably buy New Vegas for Christmas or something, more Fallout is surely a good thing. "

"  I just mad list of all new players  
 ...
 -New Companions; Ever NEW GAME needs a few new friends. There are 8 Companions. Here is the Companions

Really, some people think new vegas is just an add on?

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

I'll be honest, I didn't read your list because of your grammar.

 the sexuality of talking.

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "

Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "

I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons.

Most of what you listed could be applied to the Operation Anchorage expansion.

Other great features include: 
 
- 5 minute load times to enter a building on consoles! 
- Terrible frame rate issues!  
- Screen-tearing!
- The same shitty graphics and animations from the last game! 
- Awful NPC interaction!  
- Loss of all the humour and charm that you would find in a Bethesda product!
 
Sorry, I love FO3, and I'm sure New Vegas is gonna be fun, but it is essentially FO3 re-skinned...don't try and sell it as anything else. Adding a faction system is about as lazy as sequel 'innovation' gets these days, and most of the other changes are minor as hell. This is not a great leap forward for the series, and it's not going to feel like a whole new game when I'm roaming yet another wasteland killing mutants in VATS. It'll be Bioshock 2 all over again, still fun, but oh so familiar.

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "

Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "

What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "

Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "

What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "

" Other great features include:  - 5 minute load times to enter a building on consoles! - Terrible frame rate issues!  - Screen-tearing!- The same shitty graphics and animations from the last game! - Awful NPC interaction!  - Loss of all the humour and charm that you would find in a Bethesda product!

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "

Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "

What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "

Trophy doesn't know anything at all about the PC mod scene. "

" I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons. "

Yes, it's an all new game. But when you combine the fact that I have had my fill of fallout 3 after 40+ hours with Obsidian's pedigree (making games that are broken and unfinished. Which is great, because Fallout 3 was already broken and unfinished in a multitude of ways), at best, I will get this game when it is cheap. Not at full price.

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @Fudgeblood 
 
 You are just the worst kind of person. "

Why would you say that? I'm just saying with mods you can pretty much get everything you would in New Vegas, probably not to the same quality as a full fledged developers work, but still. "

Why even play games if your going to be such an ungrateful about them? "

What's ungrateful about mods? They let players modify the game to how they want to play. "

They are giving us a brand new game with brand new stuff and you are saying "This sucks I could do all that myself." Just because it has the same engine, does not mean it's the same game. "

" @JustTheDoctor said:

" I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons. "

Gamers just weren't as spoiled back then.  Sure, at first glance it looks like an addon, but this does not scream addon like the FEAR expansions. Fallout 3 is a huge ass game with a gargantuan world to explore with tons of shit to do. So to recreate a game experience of that scope and then just call it an addon is just plain fucking stupid. To me it's not about better graphics or features, it's about having another world to explore and scavenge through. What they're offering in New Vegas is more than enough to satisfy me. People who think this is just gonna be a Broken Steel or The Pitt addon need to pay attention to the games they rip on. "

Dragon Age Origins: Awakening was an add-on. All it was was a side story with some (awesome, though not many) new skills, characters, and world (smaller in both scope an size).
 
 
Fallout: New Vegas isn't an add on. It may use the same engine as Fallout 3 but that doesn't make it an add on.

" Dragon Age Origins: Awakening was an add-on. All it was was a side story with some (awesome, though not many) new skills, characters, and world (smaller in both scope an size).  Fallout: New Vegas isn't an add on. It may use the same engine as Fallout 3 but that doesn't make it an add on. "

Still just sounds like an add-on to me. ;) 
 
In all seriousness, I'm pretty pumped, and am just waiting for reviews so I can find out which version is the least glitchy (not counting PC, I don't have a gaming computer). 

Your spelling made me want to kill myself, but good list nonetheless.

" I'll be honest, I didn't read your list because of your grammar. "

" @JustTheDoctor said:

" I guess Vice City and San Andreas were also addons. "

Gamers just weren't as spoiled back then.  Sure, at first glance it looks like an addon, but this does not scream addon like the FEAR expansions. Fallout 3 is a huge ass game with a gargantuan world to explore with tons of shit to do. So to recreate a game experience of that scope and then just call it an addon is just plain fucking stupid. To me it's not about better graphics or features, it's about having another world to explore and scavenge through. What they're offering in New Vegas is more than enough to satisfy me. People who think this is just gonna be a Broken Steel or The Pitt addon need to pay attention to the games they rip on. "

(waits for somebody to come in and blame it on CoD or Halo kidz, or something.)  : p

It's more like Fallout 3.5

most of those points are just expanding stuff from Fallout 3.

" @VelvetLore04 said:

" Dragon Age Origins: Awakening was an add-on. All it was was a side story with some (awesome, though not many) new skills, characters, and world (smaller in both scope an size).  Fallout: New Vegas isn't an add on. It may use the same engine as Fallout 3 but that doesn't make it an add on. "

You haven't really explained why DAOA, with its entirely new world, new crafting system, new cast of characters, and new story using the same engine is different than this. You just kind of said they were. As far as I can tell the only difference is you're not able to carry over your character. But then, you used a new character in Operation Anchorage. You people seem to be downplaying how substantial expansions can be. The King's Bounty expansions were just as big as the original game with an all new character on the other side of the world. What made them expansions was using a lot of the same assets. Same with the Age of Empire 3 expansions. The difference here is this game is charging itself like they built up something from scratch. Most devs sell expansions for half price or less. Its an integrity thing. "

" Who care what they think? Let's enjoy the game. "

" It's more like Fallout 3.5 "

The game honestly feels like it's following the sports game model in a sense (with the exception of not releasing a game yearly).  Take what you had from the previous game and improve what didn't work so well, while taking the things that did work well and make them more interesting.  To that add a couple new mechanics that change the way you may have played before while still keeping the feel of the previous iteration.  Fallout 3 was a very good game and New Vegas is bound to be a very good game as well, but I can understand some of the dissent in the ranks.