Why no 3rd person driving?

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#1 Posted by Brewmaster_Andy (622 posts) -

I understand the immersion idea of the first person genre and the choice that the developer made to use first-person perspective for the actions of the game. I've played plenty of first-person shooters and don't have any trouble with them - but for the life of me, driving in Far Cry 3 is fucking impossible. With the terrain as varied as it is, and the vehicles as fast and loose as they are, why is there no third person option for driving? It is driving (har har) me insane, largely because I LOVE the game itself.

Is there a solution? I am playing on PC, after all.

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#2 Edited by Sputty (149 posts) -

It is intentional. They made the vehicles slidey and the terrain varied because it is supposed to be easy to lose control. Losing control leads to weird and fun stuff.

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#3 Posted by Sackmanjones (5588 posts) -

You nailed it in te first sentence. They want to put you in that car driving in that jungle. I fucking love it. It's crazy and leads to terrible/amazing things happening

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#4 Posted by fox01313 (5253 posts) -

The driving was like this in Far Cry2 & once you got used to it, it wasn't bad so guessing that there's not an option on this. At least you don't have to pull out a map like in Far Cry2 in this sequel to find yourself getting mauled by ninja tigers while trying to find out where to go on the map.

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#5 Posted by Rafaelfc (2237 posts) -

you haven't lived until you rolled out of a speeding car down a hill and was mauled by a tiger when you reached the bottom

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#6 Posted by mtcantor (986 posts) -

because its a first person game. None of it is in third person. IMMERSION or something.

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#7 Edited by CornBREDX (7269 posts) -

Farcry has never had 3rd person driving. It's a First Person game.  
The driving is ridiculous in order to increase the amount of insanity that will happen. 
 
Edit: Oh, I forgot to add. It was worse when they expected you to take it seriously. I remember there being parts in the first farcry where you had to use a vehicle to fight some stuff. It was dumb fun but at times annoying. In this (I haven't played it yet but from what I have seen, and what it was like in 2) it seems like it's meant to help you places faster but not intended for you to be with 1 vehicle for long amounts of time. 
 
I don't know. I always enjoyed the insanity of driving in Farcry games. It's always been goofy.

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#8 Posted by ShaggE (8672 posts) -

Cars in this game are Instant Chaos Makers. Looking for something to talk about later? Hop in an ATV, point in a random direction, and floor it until you either die or break the vehicle. There's no need for piddly things like "control", and a third person view would just take away from the insanity.

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#9 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7812 posts) -

It was the same with Crysis and Far Cry 2. I like it, personally.

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#10 Posted by mordukai (8514 posts) -

Far Cry games have always had First Person driving. Don't see any reason they need to change that. 

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#11 Posted by Rainbowkisses (519 posts) -

I hate it when games switch between first and third person; it takes you out of the whole experience. I haven't played FarCry 3 yet, but the driving in 2 was fine.

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#12 Posted by murisan (1143 posts) -

I wonder if Far Cry 3 is more moddable than Far Cry 2. I bet not, but it'd be nice.

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#13 Edited by leinad44 (623 posts) -

Can't imagine this game being as immersive if it was 3rd person

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#14 Posted by Intro (1273 posts) -

Fine with me and I always switch the 3rd person when driving in games. It feels alright in Far Cry 3 (first Far Cry I've played) because it just adds to the craziest that's already going on lol.

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#15 Posted by ProfessorEss (7961 posts) -

@Sackmanjones said:

I fucking love it. It's crazy and leads to terrible/amazing things happening

Seconded. So ridiculous

...ly awesome.

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#16 Posted by Spoonman671 (5871 posts) -

That's just not what Far Cry is about.  It's bad enough they give you a mini-map instead of an in-game paper map.

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#17 Posted by triviaman09 (998 posts) -

This is one of the many reasons I disliked Far Cry 2 and why I am reluctant to buy Far Cry 3 even though it looks pretty phenomenal.

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#18 Posted by Death_Burnout (3844 posts) -

@Spoonman671 said:

That's just not what Far Cry is about. It's bad enough they give you a mini-map instead of an in-game paper map.

Yeah man that really becomes apparent in this, I'm constantly being taken out of the experience by looking at the pause map. But I bet someone would say the 'magical' paper map is either tedious, or complain about not being able to see the road properly...again.

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#19 Edited by Brewmaster_Andy (622 posts) -

See, I really do love everything else about the game. And I understand the philosophical reasoning behind maintaining that first person perspective. I just find the first person mode for driving too disorienting - not in a fun, "hey this is nuts, I'mma jump that cliff" way, but in a "this is un-fun" way.

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#20 Posted by JP_Russell (1195 posts) -

I always prefer first-person driving in FPS's, provided they give you control of your head with the mouse (which all of them I've played do). Never had trouble with getting disoriented or confused or anything. I don't need to see the outside of my car as long as I can easily look around.

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#21 Edited by Sooty (8193 posts) -

@NekuSakuraba said:

It was the same with Crysis and Far Cry 2. I like it, personally.

Crysis has nothing to do with Far Cry 2 & 3, Crytek only made the first one.

and Crysis has third person driving.

@triviaman09 said:

This is one of the many reasons I disliked Far Cry 2 and why I am reluctant to buy Far Cry 3 even though it looks pretty phenomenal.

Far Cry 2 is one of the worst games I've played this generation, 3 is leaps and bounds above that piece of shit.

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#22 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

Because it's a 1st person game, in Far Cry 2 you didn't evem have a map on the HUD, so you had to pull up a physical map that covered your vision while driving, it produced some hillarious results.

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#23 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

@Sooty said:

Far Cry 2 is one of the worst games I've played this generation, 3 is leaps and bounds above that piece of shit.

Far Cry 2 was a great game, what was so bad about it to you?

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#24 Posted by Vitor (3088 posts) -

@mordukai said:

Far Cry games have always had First Person driving. Don't see any reason they need to change that.

But Far Cry 1 also had third person vehicle view modes. Far Cry 2 didn't but still, it seems arbitrary either way.

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#25 Posted by Sooty (8193 posts) -

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Sooty said:

Far Cry 2 is one of the worst games I've played this generation, 3 is leaps and bounds above that piece of shit.

Far Cry 2 was a great game, what was so bad about it to you?

The shooting, the characters, the premise, the respawns and how repetitive it was, it was also an ugly game even on PC I think.

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#26 Posted by Karkarov (3385 posts) -

Like others have already said, they did driving the exact same way in far cry 2. Heck some of these vehicles even feel like they were copy pasted from FC2 to begin with. It isn't a surprise they stuck with that method. It can actually lead to some pretty hilarious nonsense too.

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#27 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

@Sooty said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Sooty said:

Far Cry 2 is one of the worst games I've played this generation, 3 is leaps and bounds above that piece of shit.

Far Cry 2 was a great game, what was so bad about it to you?

The shooting, the characters, the premise, the respawns and how repetitive it was, it was also an ugly game even on PC I think.

No it was pretty on the PC. what do you have against South Africans? I thought it added alot of cool things, with the malaria, the buddy system of them giving you a extra life in battle, the physical map.

Far Cry 3 has improved the shooting alot and turned it into a proper open world unlike Far Cry 2 and Crysis's big corridors, just wished they left stuff from Far Cry 2 in there for a hardcore mode, like malaria, physical map etc Might just have to do a perma death playthough like I did with Far Cry 2 after reading this http://drgamelove.blogspot.co.nz/2009/06/permanent-death-episode-1-inasupicious.html

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#28 Edited by JP_Russell (1195 posts) -

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

Because it's a 1st person game, in Far Cry 2 you didn't evem have a map on the HUD, so you had to pull up a physical map that covered your vision while driving, it produced some hillarious results.

It didn't cover your vision, if I recall; rather, your character held it down toward their lap, so you had to take your eyes off the road. Hmm, or maybe I'm totally remembering wrong.

@Sooty said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Sooty said:

Far Cry 2 is one of the worst games I've played this generation, 3 is leaps and bounds above that piece of shit.

Far Cry 2 was a great game, what was so bad about it to you?

The shooting, the characters, the premise, the respawns and how repetitive it was, it was also an ugly game even on PC I think.

Goodness, no. Maxed out, it was one of the better looking games on the PC. I still think it's one of the better looking games on the PC, really.

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#29 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

@JP_Russell said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

Because it's a 1st person game, in Far Cry 2 you didn't evem have a map on the HUD, so you had to pull up a physical map that covered your vision while driving, it produced some hillarious results.

It didn't cover your vision, if I recall; rather, your character held it down toward their lap, so you had to take your eyes off the road. Hmm, or maybe I'm totally remembering wrong.

Still distracting as hell though

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#30 Posted by thedj93 (1260 posts) -

DUUUUDE! LIFE ISNT THE SAME until you learn how to drive in first person! fuck seeing the butt of your car sliding around and shit, WHAT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO IMAGINE the wind caressing your cheeks and making your hair float like Fabio?!

FLYING by the SEAT of your PANTS!!!

honestly though, you should try it more often... in my experience it helps me get accustomed to the physics of the game more readily....

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#31 Edited by ajamafalous (13683 posts) -
@Brewmaster_Andy said:

See, I really do love everything else about the game. And I understand the philosophical reasoning behind maintaining that first person perspective. I just find the first person mode for driving too disorienting - not in a fun, "hey this is nuts, I'mma jump that cliff" way, but in a "this is un-fun" way.

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel when I'm forced to drive in first person. I totally understand why they would choose to do it, but it doesn't have the effect on me that they desired. It's more of an "I don't like the way this handles and am not having fun while driving it, so I guess I'm going to avoid driving and then have a worse experience in the game because of it."
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#32 Posted by Brewmaster_Andy (622 posts) -

@ajamafalous: That's why I would just appreciate the option.

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#33 Posted by Spongetwan (220 posts) -

@fox01313 said:

At least you don't have to pull out a map like in Far Cry2 in this sequel to find yourself getting mauled by ninja tigers while trying to find out where to go on the map.

Priceless, lol!

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#34 Posted by deathstriker666 (1349 posts) -

The driving in Far Cry 2 was fucking fantastic. Every moment in that game is so fucking intense bro. Being chased by angry militants in a 2 door hatchback with bullets flying everywhere, ricocheting off the ground, off the car; it's FUCKING AWESOME. Some people just can't handle it. The game has some of the most laughable story ever, South African accents are just hilarious. It's a fucking blast.

FC 2 still has some of the best sniping ever. The zooming, the nice blur effect around the scope, the tumbling of the bullet hitting the rock in front of you with the audible crack of the gun soon after; it's perfect. The AI is just so intelligent and adaptable; sometimes they'll send out a few men after you, sometimes they'll bunker down. The Springfield, Mac-10, and RPG-7 got me through most of the game. I'm just afraid FC 3 will disappoint me.

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#35 Posted by Ghost_Cat (2083 posts) -

Aren't you playing as some yuppy college kid stuck on a shitty island? You're not suppose to drive right, just drive nuts.

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#36 Posted by Brewmaster_Andy (622 posts) -

@Ghost_Cat: Again, that's not the point. You can have crazy, loose driving controls from the third person without breaking immersion. See Renegade Ops

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#37 Posted by Deusx (1943 posts) -

You really didn't play Far Cry 2 right? This is nothing compared to the driving in that game. Don't be so sensitive.

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#38 Posted by ArtisanBreads (9107 posts) -

Probably the only first person game that switched perspective where it didn't kind of bother me was the Rainbow Six Vegas series. For story based FPS games I don't like it to switch perspective. Keeping it there adds immersion.

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#39 Posted by Brewmaster_Andy (622 posts) -

@Deusx: Whether I played Far Cry 2 has nothing to do with how I feel about the driving in Far Cry 3. It has nothing to do with being overly sensitive either - it has to do with a game that I enjoyed being marred in large part by a major aspect being less smooth and more frustrating than the rest of the game. I mean hell, Halo does third person driving for its vehicle sequences. Whether driving in FC2 was worse doesn't matter if the driving in FC3 isn't enjoyable. And again, what would be the problem with adding it as an OPTION?

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#40 Posted by Sanity (2167 posts) -

I wish you could use the mouse to steer, i have a hell of a time using the keyboard to turn.

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#41 Posted by Brewmaster_Andy (622 posts) -

@dudy80: You know what, that would probably solve my issues as well.

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#42 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

I love the 1st person driving in FC3, with the cracked windscreen and the sunglare on the shield, I pretty much only use cars to get out of shit storms fast, most the time Im trekking though the jungles.

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#43 Posted by snarekick (129 posts) -

it's really a non-issue if you stick to the roads and don't floor the gas 100% of the time

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