1) so what?
2) that sounds like a jrpg alright
3) never do them
4) worked for mass effect 2

"1) so what? 
 2) that sounds like a jrpg alright 
 3) never do them 
 4) worked for mass effect 2 "
 
Agree with everything he said but will be getting it on PS3.

more like list of things you don't mind and already knew.
 
i love how people jump in their shit for making all these changes, but then jump in everyone else's shit for being the same old same old jrpg formula. make up your fucking minds.

1: ok ill get over it 
2: yup that sounds like final fantasy alright (anything 10 and after)
3: well niether did 12 and i stil managed to make my way through that 
4: ok sounds like 8 lol 
5: well i wanna get the 360 version just to be a rebel (but i dont have a 360) 

.... 
 13. lucky it is not as 13 most commonly is the number of death, a big reason why apartment buildings scam tenants into believing 14 is not 13 :P 
   
reasons why i do not care about all the twisted up underwear and all the consumption of hatoraide in and about the reviews... 
  
1. got a sweet trade in deal on some games i was done with 
2. fang 
3. fang's eidolon is bahamut (who is my favorite) 
4. thinking about lulu from x and all the haters at that time and that game was super linear and i enjoyed it and i thought blitzball was lame and didn't play it much so there xplay 
5. I hear szah has many great lines 
6. for all the smack talk of the xbox version having more lightning inner thigh on their box cover it appears we(ps3) are the ones that will actually see it in gameplay and cutscene(576p HD lite on 360 still better than nothing)  
7. production values, graphics, cutscenes, and fully realized characters look incredible(from what i have seen) despite your opinions on japanese conventions on hair, clothes, gender identity, dialogue 
8. lightning... but more so fang.  
9. battle looks fun and very deep 
10. long story led adventure with tons of gameplay which will be good after playing heavy rain(was great and different) and having god of war 3 coming up  (as those are in the ballpark of 10-12 hours vs 50+)
11. did i mention fang and bahamut and comic relief by szah with UNBELIEVABLE production values??? 
 
things i'm concerned about ... 
growing to like leona lewis songs by proxy
kevin van ord's warnings of vanille being annoying as all hell 
getting into nerd or general conversations having to talk about ffxiii and it's merits or flaws... i don't care I will be picking it up tomorrow morning and i know that i will enjoy it.  
 
do i expect it to be my favorite ff game? no it might be but i do expect it to have an engaging world a cool story great battle system some characters that grab me right off the cuff and the most impressive visuals and presentations in any jrpg thus far, and while I have respect for western rpgs, I like FF and DW/Q and besides my room mate picked up mass effect 2 and dragon age(on ps3 ;) got better reviews than 360) and he will likely pick up awakening and well I get to play those games and save money, he doesn't like jrpg's so i couldn't get him to play FF13 even if it got 10s hehe. Quote "I would pick it up even if it got 7's" in regards to me2, the first mass effect was one of his favorite games, and that's my point it doesn't matter what other people like or their preferences (unless your getting them a gift) it matters what you like.   

1) Its something new.  
2) All Final Fantasy games are linear. Its a JRPG and that should be expected. 
3) I hated the mini-games. 
4) Probably has a different system like every other game.  
5) Really? You must be stupid. Final Fantasy started on the NES, and continued to the SNES. The remakes of those games are on the DS and gameboy advance. You point here for being a "Sony" purist for the FF series, is null and void. 

But I don't have any 5 of them.

Looks like this thread flew over the heads of a few people here.

I like 2, 4 and 5 and don't care about 1 and 3.

I think I love the fact it has no mini games, I HATED useless card games, shits ball and other mini games in past final fantasies.

So I have plunged about 2 and a half hours into it now and honestly the internet has disappointed me (not surprising I guess since people like to overblow shit). To be fair this could drastically change as I continue on but so far the game has not been as "linear" as many people have described it.  
 
Yes you are going from point a to point b and yes there is only one way to get there but a lot of reviews have basically described it as you could hold down the analog stick and get where you are going. So far this is not really true, yes you aren't going to get lost but there are plenty of nooks and crannies to throw you off the main path where treasure chests and more enemies (! combat is quite engaging so far, so I have been going out of my way to fight everything) so moving around dungeons isn't as straight forward and boring as many folks would like you to believe. Though like I've said I have only been to a few areas so far this structure could sway in either direction.

" So I have plunged about 2 and a half hours into it now and honestly the internet has disappointed me (not surprising I guess since people like to overblow shit). To be fair this could drastically change as I continue on but so far the game has not been as "linear" as many people have described it.   Yes you are going from point a to point b and yes there is only one way to get there but a lot of reviews have basically described it as you could hold down the analog stick and get where you are going. So far this is not really true, yes you aren't going to get lost but there are plenty of nooks and crannies to throw you off the main path where treasure chests and more enemies (! combat is quite engaging so far, so I have been going out of my way to fight everything) so moving around dungeons isn't as straight forward and boring as many folks would like you to believe. Though like I've said I have only been to a few areas so far this structure could sway in either direction. "

If you are looking for a traditional type RPG, I suggest you play Lost Odyssey. FF XIII is very different from previous games.

To Point out G4TV X-Play still gave the game 4 out of 5 ^_^

1.) Eh, there are ways to work around having towns. Usually hate going up to every NPC and talking to them just to not miss out on anything anyway. 
2.) Did no one play Final Fantasy X? Same linear shit was there too. As long as I eventually get my airship and shit gets all free roaming by the end of the game I';ll be happy since its been that way for a while.
3.) Yeah, kinda sad by that since a good chunk of my time with any rpgs is the side stuff. 
4.) I'm fine by that, as long you can still customize your character's skills and such 
5.) Wah, wa? fanboy much?

please dont make topics assuming you are god and everyone thinks like you

1. I'm glad. I don't want to have to keep going back to town to finish quests or buy equipment or anything of the sort. 
2. Super glad. I play JRPGs when I want a more linear game that just takes we along for the story without too much in the way of distractions. 
3. I have only played a few Final Fantasy games (IV, X, XII) and I couldn't even tell you if any of those had mini-games. I don't play RPGs of any kind for the mini-games. 
4. This seems like my only complaint. The thing I love about RPGs is collecting loot and outfitting my characters how I want to. I felt this was a step back in Mass Effect 2 and I feel the same here. 
5. I own both an Xbox 360 and PS3 but I will definitely be buying it on the PS3. Not because I'm biased to one system over the other (in fact, every cross platform game I own is on the 360 simply because of Xbox Live and points, so this is a departure for me) but because every review I have read says that the PS3 version is the superior version. It has better compression on all the in game cinematics  and only one disc. However, if I didn't own a PS3 I would gladly buy it for the Xbox and probably enjoy it just as much. 

" please dont make topics assuming you are god and everyone thinks like you "

  What, fuck Sony! I'm still pissed Sony got this seris! FINAL FANTASY IS NINTENDO ALL THE WAY!!! FUCK SONY!!!!  
(Just so people know, I am being sarcastic, some people on the internet don't really seem to understand sarcasm...) 

Ummmm, isn't this just a post of an article from another site, not by the member?  The last 2 lines is by the member?  Why are people attacking the OP?  Am I the one missing the point? 
 
I will wait until I buy a PS3 and get the only version worth owning - just my opinion.  I don't think this game will rate anywhere near the top of my favourite games list and I don't think I am going to like the "no towns".  The linear aspect doesn't bother me in the slightest.  In fact, I still like linear RPGs.

As a Nintendo fanboy I am very pissed they are bringing out a FF on a Sony system. WTH Square?!

I don't mind these.

Right, because Sony is the only company that's ever had a Final Fantasy game on its consoles.  Oh wait...

5) It's on the 360: This is the first Final Fantasy game for the 360 so lucky number 13 is bound to anger console purists who feel that the Final Fantasy universe belongs only to Sony console owners.

Man; 1, 2 and 4 are some of the big reasons why I like RPGs. 
I never liked the Final Fantasy series; the only one I've ever liked was Mystic Quest. 
I've always found JRPG stories to be weird and go overboard with drama and stereotypes. 
Even still I temped to buy it.. 
God damn, it's frustrating wanting to buy and play a game, knowing your most likely not going to like it.

" ....  13. lucky it is not as 13 most commonly is the number of death "

2: yup that sounds like final fantasy alright (anything 10 and after)

The only thing that might actually bother me would be the lack of equipment, but it was alright in Mass Effect 2, I can deal with it again. The lack of mini games is fine with me. I never really enjoyed them, especially blitzball....

I'm not sure there's really a conflict between saying that JRPGs don't really innovate enough, and then complaining about all the things they ripped out. There could be, but from my perspective I just wish they'd kept a lot of the things they ripped out, and changed the story dynamic and got rid of the cliched JRPG characters in the game. I have the same qualms about western RPGs like Mass Effect 2. They took out too much of the RPG stuff, in my opinion. I'd be happier with something in-between. But FF13 doesn't look like a bad game at all, just not what I generally like in an RPG. If they had made different decisions ... I probably would have considered it.
 
Still, none of the things on this list were unknown. And who complains about a game because it's no longer an exclusive? Do people not remember that Final Fantasy was originally on the NES, and not a Sony platform? Anyway, if you're buying a cross-platform game, and have both consoles, it only makes sense you buy it on the lead platform. That's usually the 360 these days, but FF13 was lead on PS3, so if you're lucky enough to have both consoles, it makes sense to buy it for the PS3.

1.  Most of the cast besides the black guy with the afro is creepy and androngynus
2.  If you play it and say anything other than zomg greatest game ever you will get flamed 
3.  It's a FF game post 6 so you know the story will be cliche and bad at best

" To Point out G4TV X-Play still gave the game 4 out of 5 ^_^ "

i dont really mind any of those changes... i HATED the side crap anyway so thats a plus for me

They more like criticized it than praised it.

This is a terrible thread.

#5: Final Fantasy will always be a Nintendo game to me. 

Its trying to appeal to a new fan base. Look at FFXII, people liked it or hated it.

Towns in JRPGs suck imo.  All they are is a collection of these things 

• Little girl running around, "I can't find my cat"
• Little boy running around, "Have you seen my sister?  She's looking for our cat."
• Poor person, "Rich people are so mean to us."
• Rich person, "I wish the poor would leave this city."
• Random person, "this town is great"
• Random person, "You're new here and [insert random odd statement about the plot that would be weird to tell a perfect stranger]"
• Random person, "One day I will leave this town."

The only thing on your list I really care about is the armor. I just like having to shift through mads amount of armor, one of the reasons I like FF9 so much. But I do not see why you made this thread, anyone who was going to play FFXIII already knew every single point you made. I know you may feel the need to stroke your e-peen about all the "knowledge" you may have on the game, but try to give us something we haven't know for the past 3 months. 

the mini games were always just a pretty way to waste time.

1)   No big deal really, the game's design doesn't really leave room for town exploration.  You just save time by not having filler to do (going through the town talking to every NPC 3 times to trigger a story action) 
2)  Not the first linear game ever made, in fact every JRPG is pretty linear.  It's been said before, FFXIII just removes the illusion of choice, you never actually had choice.  Nobody complains that a game like Uncharted 2 is super linear, because it is a quality of that genre of game.  Well, JRPGs are linear, quality of the genre.  It opens up a lot at chapter 11 anyway, if you are really worried about it. 
3) Yeah, I miss Triple Triad.  Oh well, I don't play FF games for the minigames anyway. 
4)  So?  Customization is about your skills, not your equipment.  I take it you never played FFX, which has a very similar equipment customization level. 
5)  Um, who cares?  Seriously?  I play it on my PS3, it does not diminish my enjoyment to know that people are playing it on the 360.

1)  It's Final Fantasy
 
Don't need five reasons to hate it.

Wait... so basically you're saying it's not even an RPG anymore?

5) It's on the 360: This is the first Final Fantasy game for the 360 so lucky number 13 is bound to anger console purists who feel that the Final Fantasy universe belongs only to Sony console owners.

lol @ all the people hating on this game for the same lame-o reasons.

1)It's strange, but I'll get used to it. Though I will miss the pointless banter with the NPCs that pace around the same area the entire game.
2)I'm okay with linear. A good linear game is better than a game with badly shoehorned open world stuff, and most of the other Final Fantasy games (past VII, pretty sure 1-6 were a good deal different) were linear for the first chunk as well.
3)No chocobo riding? =(
4)Aww, I liked buying new equipment every time I got to a new town. But I'll manage
5)What? Why would I be upset by that? More people that get to play it the better.
 
Overall, not much to hate here.