I love the alternate reality that the entire Bombcast...

I love the alternate reality that the entire Bombcast takes place in.

You know, that alternate reality where the first Assassin's Creed is one of the most painful experiences in modern video game history.

Where Fable 3 is the most dissappointing game of 2010.

These two are but the most recent examples of the crazy reality that these guys live in. It's amazing to me that they do not connect the dots between their opinions of these and other games, and the fact that they are in a unique position (by way of their chosen profession) to experience things that the average consumer and video game enthusiast does not.

Pretty much everyone that isn't a frat bro or old man disagrees with you.

 

 the first Assassin's Creed is one of the most painful experiences in modern video game history.

SICK BURN! YOU REALLY SHOWED THEM, BRO! 

 Why not just say you disagree?

" @MangyForestCat said:

 

 the first Assassin's Creed is one of the most painful experiences in modern video game history.

It was "

I don't think either AC is that great, but I did beat AC2 and never actually got past the first two assassination missions in AC; game is MAD BORING DOG.
 
and I was playing the PC version as well (not of AC2, fuck that)

YEAH FUCK THEM FOR HAVING OPINIONS! BURN THE INFIDELS!

" @MangyForestCat said:

 

 the first Assassin's Creed is one of the most painful experiences in modern video game history.

It was "

"  Why not just say you disagree? "

You know that it is just their opinion, right?
 
I am always annoyed by the topics that are made by people who have left the default icon on. Almost as if they don't even care about contributing to the site in a good way.

I agree with them about assassins creed. I hated that game (maybe it only sucked on PC, but some of the issues seemed like design rather than just a poorly realized port) 

I can't comment on Fable 3 since I haven't played it, but I played Assassin's Creed 1 and 2 for the first time, and back to back, about 4 or 5 months ago. 
 
Assassin's Creed 1 is fucking terrible.  I don't know how that game sold well enough to earn a sequel with how poorly made it was.  I'm glad it did, though, because AC2 was actually a really good game.  I agree with HatKing that it's one of the most improved sequels I've ever seen, if not the most.  It feels like AC1 was an internal test build or something just to make sure the mechanics worked and AC2 was them putting those mechanics into an actual game.

" @HatKing: I'm saying that the crew lives in a crazy upside down reality where the first Assassin's Creed is a busted game that a person suffers through from start to finish. "

Someday, people are going to realize that there is such a thing as an incorrect opinion. Hopefully, that will do away with the knee-jerk reactions I always see to threads even remotely like this one, and lead to actual discussion of whether or not the opinions in question have merit. That would be nice. :)

Looks like I'm part of that alternate reality too then. I didn't care for AC then and I'd sooner shoot myself than play it now. Fable is always disappointing. It's never bad by any standards, but there's always so much promise within each game and they always fail to deliver exactly what they promise. Fable 3 just so happens to be more disappointing than any of it's older siblings.
 
And disappointing does not mean bad. Disappointing means exactly what I just said above. They promise things that they can never live up to.

 Assassin's Creed came out almost 4 years ago. At the time the game looked amazing, the cities were huge and incredibly detailed and all of the traversal abilities and slick looking animations were pretty compelling. It was also incredibly repetitive and sort of shallow on some ends. I don't think anyone was saying that the game was terrible, but that the improvements featured in the sequels were so great that they served to highlight the faults of the original. I can see how someone like Brad, who is fully aware of the improvements made to later installments in the series, would find it tiresome to play his way through the less refined original for the sole purpose of  fully grasping the story elements.    

 @MangyForestCat: 
Dude, I love the first Assassin's Creed. I spent countless hours playing and getting every damn achievement in it. That game has so many god damn problems. Parts of it just feel broken, others are poorly designed. Doing the same boring ass side missions every city was stupid, the guard detection was unfair, fighting was slow and tedious, free running was janky. I could go on. It was a really neat game at it's core, but you had to suffer through so much to get to the cool parts.
 
The Fable series has always been underwhelming to me. I can't speak to Fable 3 as I never played it, but that's because I got burned before. A lot of the decisions on the interface sounded poorly conceived and annoying. I would have been more surprised if it wasn't another disappointment.
 
And when do they ever claim to speak for the average consumer? They are commenting on their own experiences from their unique position. You're right about that. They know that. It's not like they can ajust their opinions though. It's theirs, not yours. Take that for what it's worth.

Those games aren't that good. Assassin's Creed is incredibly repetitive and Fable 3 is shit.

" I love the alternate reality that the entire Bombcast takes place in.

You know, that alternate reality where the first Assassin's Creed is one of the most painful experiences in modern video game history.

Where Fable 3 is the most dissappointing game of 2010.

These two are but the most recent examples of the crazy reality that these guys live in. It's amazing to me that they do not connect the dots between their opinions of these and other games, and the fact that they are in a unique position (by way of their chosen profession) to experience things that the average consumer and video game enthusiast does not.

"

They give reasons for why they dislike Fable 3 and why they find AC to be such a slug to get through, I don't see why you have a problem with this.

While I disagree with the GB crew and AC1 is my favourite in the series they are entitled to their own opinion too.
One thing I noticed is that as members of the gaming press they put much more emphasis then for example me on the mehcanics/bugs/usability of a game. Whereas I can easily ignore the "jank" if the underlying game is good.

"@Shirogane:  There are things that AC1 did that are amazing. Those things didn't make it a good game. It was severely flawed and even at release I remember seeing complaints similar to those here. The vastly superior sequels makes it even easier to see it's many failings. "

" @HatKing:I played through the entirety of the original Assassin's Creed again after playing through Assassin's Creed 2. It is not unplayable. A game made in 2007 by Ubisoft Montreal as their premiere holiday title is not a game that you "can't imagine that game is even remotely playable today." Maybe if this was the future of 2020 when we all play games that are downloaded to our eyelids (the superior platform) then that might be true. I am not arguing that the first Assassin's Creed is better the Assassin's Creed 2. I agree that the Assassin's Creed 2 and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood are both superior games. I'm saying that the crew lives in a crazy upside down reality where the first Assassin's Creed is a busted game that a person suffers through from start to finish. "

The main things with the 'flaws' were that people were expecting something more, i went into the game not hyped up at all. And quite late actually, probably a year or 2 after release. I found it to be great, i had no problems with it whatsoever. "

" @Slaker117 said:

"@Shirogane:  There are things that AC1 did that are amazing. Those things didn't make it a good game. It was severely flawed and even at release I remember seeing complaints similar to those here. The vastly superior sequels makes it even easier to see it's many failings. "

The main things with the 'flaws' were that people were expecting something more, i went into the game not hyped up at all. And quite late actually, probably a year or 2 after release. I found it to be great, i had no problems with it whatsoever. "

WAT??? Teh Bombcast cant be RONG!!!

I bought AC2 on faith: the first game had so much potential. The climbing and open world nature of the game were fantastic. It was graphically impressive. It had some bright spots. But like a lot of people, I suppose, by the second assassination I was already getting bored. I didn't get much further than that. But I still bought AC2, because I hoped they fixed the problems. And you know what? They did. The first game was incredibly painful primarily because everyone could see that beneath the tragically dull mission structure was a fantastic game waiting to emerge. We all wanted to love the game, but most of us couldn't. AC2 was a far better game. And Brotherhood was even better than that. I'm almost scared how excited I am for AC3.
 
I've only played a little Fable 3. I was one who was incredibly disappointed by Fable 2, so I didn't have high expectations for the third. That said, I can easily see someone who enjoyed Fable 2 be disappointed in Fable 3. It's not a stretch to imagine that.

For everyone shitting on Assassin's Creed, you clearly didn't play it when it first came out.

" @MangyForestCat said:

" I love the alternate reality that the entire Bombcast takes place in.

You know, that alternate reality where the first Assassin's Creed is one of the most painful experiences in modern video game history.

Where Fable 3 is the most dissappointing game of 2010.

These two are but the most recent examples of the crazy reality that these guys live in. It's amazing to me that they do not connect the dots between their opinions of these and other games, and the fact that they are in a unique position (by way of their chosen profession) to experience things that the average consumer and video game enthusiast does not.

"

Hey, it could have been worse.  They could have been Gametrailers.com employees.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though, really.  ... except for GT.com employees. Fuck them. "

" Pretty much everyone that isn't a frat bro or old man disagrees with you. "

I agree with the OP, but there's no point posting it on a forum filled with brown-nosing cunts with a copy-paste opinion.

Basically this thread is : OP disagrees with the staff, people go fucking crazy. Nothing new to see here.

" For everyone shitting on Assassin's Creed, you clearly didn't play it when it first came out. "

" SICK BURN! YOU REALLY SHOWED THEM, BRO!  "

" YEAH FUCK THEM FOR HAVING OPINIONS! BURN THE INFIDELS! "

" What you need to realise is that the gaming community as a whole lives in a world where if a game isn't brilliant, it's complete unplayable shit.  "

" @Baillie said:

" For everyone shitting on Assassin's Creed, you clearly didn't play it when it first came out. "

Why is that? I played it when it first came out and like another guy in this thread, it took me about 6 months to finish because it was such a chore to play - yeah the graphics/environment and the free running were really cool but just about everything else about it was dull as hell "

Have you gone back and played Assassins Creed recently?