Bayonetta won according to the video and the GOTY day 1 page, the only place they say that Mordin won is on the podcast, at least that is what you are saying. I have not listened to it yet
Guessing they changed their mind, but it's rather weird since everyone unanimously agreed it was Mordin and no one even tried to fight for Bayonetta. Kinda bummed since the character design is the only part of Bayonetta I didn't think was that great.
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
I can't believe it was John Marston. I thought he was the most well written, designed, and had the best story to tell by far. I cared about him more than I cared about any other character. Bayonetta is kind of cool but beyond her appearance and flashiness there is nothing really there. I'll take Marston any day.
I mean I'm not losing sleep over it, whatever, but I get the feeling Jeff's irrational hatred of Red Dead might factor into a lot of these awards. I have to say I hate when some games journalists seem to want to hate a game just because others like it or just for no reason at all. How you can love GTA IV and not even give RDR the time of day is beyond comprehension to me. Just does not make any sense.
@Vorbis: Yeah thats what im thinking..its just strange that everyone voted for him. But now he isnt the pick, because i seriously think he should be. @Management: Yeah, on the podcast they all picked Mordin. But what i dont understand is why the text and the video show otherwise. @Romination said:
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
Marston is boring as shit. He's just any john wayne character. *Puts up flame shield* Is it marsden or marston? Idk lol
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
I can't believe it was John Marston. I thought he was the most well written, designed, and had the best story to tell by far. I cared about him more than I cared about any other character. Bayonetta is kind of cool but beyond her appearance and flashiness there is nothing really there. I'll take Marston any day. I mean I'm not losing sleep over it, whatever, but I get the feeling Jeff's irrational hatred of Red Dead might factor into a lot of these awards. I have to say I hate when some games journalists seem to want to hate a game just because others like it or just for no reason at all. How you can love GTA IV and not even give RDR the time of day is beyond comprehension to me. Just does not make any sense. "
did you care about him because he was a good character or was it because he was a character that got a lot of shit dumped on him? I've not played it that much, and I'll probably TRY and complete it (until I can hear their arguments about the overall, and then we'll see if I can figure out why) but so far he just seems like a guy who life shat on, and I played a game with that exact character trope done better (Nier).
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
Marston is boring as shit. He's just any john wayne character. *Puts up flame shield* Is it marsden or marston? Idk lol "
I assume you're just kidding around but the thing that makes MARSTON great is that he is far from a "john wayne" or typical western hero. He has humor, he gets angry, he follows people he shouldn't, he's made mistakes in his past and he is trying to redeem himself. He is trying to make his way through a crazy and violent world and the tragedy that befalls him makes you really feel a lot of him as a character. He is just so well realized and represented in the game. And they continued to do a great job with him in Undead Nightmare.
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
Marston is boring as shit. He's just any john wayne character. *Puts up flame shield* Is it marsden or marston? Idk lol "
I assume you're just kidding around but the thing that makes MARSTON great is that he is far from a "john wayne" or typical western hero. He has humor, he gets angry, he follows people he shouldn't, he's made mistakes in his past and he is trying to redeem himself. He is trying to make his way through a crazy and violent world and the tragedy that befalls him makes you really feel a lot of him as a character. He is just so well realized and represented in the game. And they continued to do a great job with him in Undead Nightmare. "
Agreed. Really disappointed on that one, but I'm not really surprised. Jeff has never even tried to get into Red Dead so I don't see it winning anything on here because of that. Definitely my favourite character this year.
Though I totally loved Mordin and Bayonetta, so s'all good.
What the hell, Giant Bomb! Something is WRONG! Grrr, make up your minds, yuck. Which should we believe, the podcast or the article?! What the fuck are we supposed to believe, when you can't even seem to agree? Ugh. That's all I have to say. Fooey.
Marsten is great because he's so normal and middle aged and homely, but still a badass.
Really if you put a gun to my head I would pick him. But Bayonetta is amazing though. It's a ridiculous comparison because the two characters are not in any way trying to do the same thing. It comes down to whatever mood one happens to be in at the time.
Marston is just 'Heroic Guy Who Will Die For His Family' who gets pushed around by everybody he meets for 30 hours, then dies for his family.
With Mordin, Bioware managed to make a companion so enjoyable that everybody was prepared to look past the fact that he genocided most of Wrex's race. These are the same people that loathed Ashley in ME1 because she said something a bit xenophobic one time.
no, they forgot about the bombcast they did last week (too many drugs IMO) and just chose bayonetta, then told Drew what to do for the video. Shit happens.
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
Marston is boring as shit. He's just any john wayne character. *Puts up flame shield* Is it marsden or marston? Idk lol "
I assume you're just kidding around but the thing that makes MARSTON great is that he is far from a "john wayne" or typical western hero. He has humor, he gets angry, he follows people he shouldn't, he's made mistakes in his past and he is trying to redeem himself. He is trying to make his way through a crazy and violent world and the tragedy that befalls him makes you really feel a lot of him as a character. He is just so well realized and represented in the game. And they continued to do a great job with him in Undead Nightmare. "
Agreed. Really disappointed on that one, but I'm not really surprised. Jeff has never even tried to get into Red Dead so I don't see it winning anything on here because of that. "
People give Brad shit for arguing Marston over York, but he at least played both games.
"John Martson is just Chuck Greene with a cowboy hat." Christ.
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
Marston is boring as shit. He's just any john wayne character. *Puts up flame shield* Is it marsden or marston? Idk lol "
I assume you're just kidding around but the thing that makes MARSTON great is that he is far from a "john wayne" or typical western hero. He has humor, he gets angry, he follows people he shouldn't, he's made mistakes in his past and he is trying to redeem himself. He is trying to make his way through a crazy and violent world and the tragedy that befalls him makes you really feel a lot of him as a character. He is just so well realized and represented in the game. And they continued to do a great job with him in Undead Nightmare. "
Agreed. Really disappointed on that one, but I'm not really surprised. Jeff has never even tried to get into Red Dead so I don't see it winning anything on here because of that. "
Seems like the usual Jeff. The guy knows what he likes and what he doesn't like but he does sometimes writes off games before trying it. Like Demon's Souls. Come to think of it , the only person who even tried giving that game a chance was Vinny.
" I'm surprised there's no rage over it not being John Marsten... Marsden... I haven't played RDR. "
Marston is boring as shit. He's just any john wayne character. *Puts up flame shield* Is it marsden or marston? Idk lol "
I assume you're just kidding around but the thing that makes MARSTON great is that he is far from a "john wayne" or typical western hero. He has humor, he gets angry, he follows people he shouldn't, he's made mistakes in his past and he is trying to redeem himself. He is trying to make his way through a crazy and violent world and the tragedy that befalls him makes you really feel a lot of him as a character. He is just so well realized and represented in the game. And they continued to do a great job with him in Undead Nightmare. "
Agreed. Really disappointed on that one, but I'm not really surprised. Jeff has never even tried to get into Red Dead so I don't see it winning anything on here because of that. "
People give Brad shit for arguing Marston over York, but he at least played both games. "John Martson is just Chuck Greene with a cowboy hat." Christ. "
Everything that was interesting about Marston kind of happened before the player gets hold of him, I wish we had got to play him while he was a bandit rather than just the whole wanting to save his wife story.
@MiniPato: Yeah, exactly. "One step above a silent protagonist". Not sure what that was about. Marston has a line of dialogue after just about everything you do and is voiced in every cutscene. Pretty much the opposite of a silent protagonist. Oh well.
@Mordukai: I remember that. Demon's Souls is so underrated.
" Marston is just 'Heroic Guy Who Will Die For His Family' who gets pushed around by everybody he meets for 30 hours, then dies for his family. With Mordin, Bioware managed to make a companion so enjoyable that everybody was prepared to look past the fact that he genocided most of Wrex's race. These are the same people that loathed Ashley in ME1 because she said something a bit xenophobic one time. "
Thanks for the spoiler. I want to call you an asshole but your Full Throttle avatar prevents me from doing that.
" Everything that was interesting about Marston kind of happened before the player gets hold of him, I wish we had got to play him while he was a bandit rather than just the whole wanting to save his wife story. "
I agree, on both counts. Marston's battle to become a good man would have made for a more interesting theme. That battle is already won by the time RDR starts - he already knows what he did was wrong and he has changed.
Mordin has a broadly similar arc (so far) but he's still in the middle of struggling with his past, still desperately trying to convince himself that what he did was justified by the circumstances. Ryan is right to call him a Nazi - the whole situation is allegorical of the Holocaust. The language Mordin uses is extremely similar to the language the Nazis used to justify the Holocaust. The Krogan were a weak race raised above their station by other people, and had become a 'plague' and a 'threat to the rest of society' - almost word for word the exact rhetoric the Nazis used to justify the 'Final Solution' to the 'Jewish Question'. ME2 is shot through with WW2 references if you look for them - I think somebody over there has read a thing or two about a World War or two.
@Gargantuan: Sorry duder, but GOTY talk is gonna be full of spoilers - plus we're well past the '3 Month Limit' on both of those games. Avoid GOTY talk it if there are still games you don't want spoiled.
Since there's so much confusion, how about we all admit that Francis York Morgan beats Marston, Bayonetta and Mordin? Don't deny it. Accept him into your hearts.
Brad let his hate for the mechanics and the concept of the endurance run cock block york
Jeff let his non interest in red dead boil marston down to "generic cowboy".
So they ended up choosing literally one of the worst characters of this generation? I usually NEVER care about awards beyond the fun of listening to the podcast.
I'm not mad giant bomb. I'm just disappointed....
Great then Brad cockblocks the song as well because of the gameplay...makes sense.../facepalm
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