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Edited 3 years, 6 months ago

Poll: Do you prefer YOU DEFEATED or VICTORY ACHIEVED? (630 votes)

VICTORY ACHIEVED 10%
YOU DEFEATED 90%

Forget all those "Character of the Generation" polls...this is serious business.

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#1 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2353 posts) -

Never played Dark Souls, but judging from those two things out of context, Victory Achieved sounds like you accomplished something but You Defeated sounds like you just fucked someone or something up, so that one wins

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#2 Posted by BeachThunder (14687 posts) -

DEFEATED ACHIEVED

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#3 Posted by Eviternal (199 posts) -

This poll is like Pinwheel. No contest.

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#4 Posted by Humanity (16689 posts) -

VINNY TIME

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#5 Posted by ILikePopCans (943 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED

obvious.

(I'm going to assume VICTORY ACHIEVED is the Demon Souls one, right?)

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#6 Edited by TheHT (14557 posts) -

There's something very Solaire about VICTORY ACHIEVED.

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#7 Posted by Justin258 (14561 posts) -

Never played Dark Souls, but judging from those two things out of context, Victory Achieved sounds like you accomplished something but You Defeated sounds like you just fucked someone or something up, so that one wins

When Dark Souls originally released, it just said "YOU DEFEATED". It didn't say "YOU DEFEATED THE TAURUS DEMON", it just said "YOU DEFEATED" every time you won a boss fight. The PC release changed it to "VICTORY ACHIEVED".

Personally, I didn't even know about this until I had played some of the PC version and I'm a snob so I'm going with "VICTORY ACHIEVED". I just like it being correct and all.

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#8 Posted by mosespippy (4751 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED

obvious.

(I'm going to assume VICTORY ACHIEVED is the Demon Souls one, right?)

They patched out You Defeated and replaced it with Victory Achieved. Then people complained and they changed in again if I recall correctly.

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#9 Posted by MooseyMcMan (12572 posts) -

Anyone that says "Victory Achieved" is a terrible person, and should be struck down by the Darkmoon Blades.

Praise the Sun! And YOU DEFEATED.

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#10 Edited by Humanity (16689 posts) -

@ilikepopcans said:

YOU DEFEATED

obvious.

(I'm going to assume VICTORY ACHIEVED is the Demon Souls one, right?)

In Demon's Souls it said "The Demon Was Destroyed"

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#11 Posted by Mike (17383 posts) -

The first time I beat the Taurus Demon, I was at very low health and we ended up hitting each other at the same time. I won, but I saw that "YOU DEFEATED" message for the first time and for a brief second I thought that it meant I died. After that, there was no going back...YD4L

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#12 Posted by wjb (1918 posts) -

Victory Achieved is for dorks.

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#13 Posted by Coafi (1520 posts) -

YOU WON, FUCKER.

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#14 Posted by eroticfishcake (7857 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED

From Software might have been embarrassed by it but I thought it gave it some unique flavour as serious as the game is. If you're on PC though you can always just mod it back in, like myself.

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#15 Posted by jimmyfenix (3941 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED

YOU'RE DEFEATED

YOUR DEFEATED

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#16 Posted by sunbrozak (2257 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED is the obvious answer, although I always supplemented it with my own "Praise the Sun" pose upon defeating the boss.

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#17 Edited by plaintomato (616 posts) -

A WINNER IS YOU

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#18 Edited by face15 (1381 posts) -

VICTORY ACHIEVED actually makes sense in the English language so it obviously loses.

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#19 Posted by Oldirtybearon (5626 posts) -

I could take either one, really. I'm not a big fan of YOU DEFEATED because I don't like broken English. VICTORY ACHIEVED isn't much better though.

That said, my favourite Dark Souls message is from a mod I saw that changed the on-screen messages in Dark Souls. The first time I saw "we handsome now" after reverse hollowing I lost my shit.

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#20 Posted by TruthTellah (9811 posts) -
"YOU DEFEATED" is the perfect counterpoint to "YOU DIED"

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#21 Posted by TruthTellah (9811 posts) -

I would also take "YOU ARE VICTORIOUS" if it was an option. I feel like that's also in the spirit of the moment.

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#22 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2646 posts) -

@ilikepopcans said:

YOU DEFEATED

obvious.

(I'm going to assume VICTORY ACHIEVED is the Demon Souls one, right?)

They patched out You Defeated and replaced it with Victory Achieved. Then people complained and they changed in again if I recall correctly.

What they actually changed it back? That is amazing, someone confirm this is true.

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#23 Posted by FonkyMucker (181 posts) -

I wish there was a voice over when the "You Defeated" victory text came up, other than that its is PERFECT.

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#24 Posted by amlabella (376 posts) -

I've been playing the PC version recently and not seeing "You Defeated" makes me sad.

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#25 Posted by Nightriff (7165 posts) -

You Defeated sounds awesome

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#26 Posted by afabs515 (1842 posts) -

I played the game first on 360, so when I saw "Victory Achieved" pop up in the PC version, it just felt wrong. "You Defeated" is just so much better.

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#27 Posted by LiK (1145 posts) -

anyone who chooses Victory Achieved is a punk.

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#28 Posted by ReCkLeSs_X (475 posts) -

ACHIEVED DEFEAT.

:(

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#29 Posted by golguin (5304 posts) -

I remember when they patched out "You Defeated" and put in "Victory Achieved". The vast majority of people were pretty upset by the change. It might have been done during the Fog Ring patch. I think they put it back in on the very next patch.

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#30 Edited by NegativeCero (3148 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED will always be correct to me.

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#31 Posted by JTHomeslice (265 posts) -

@mosespippy said:

@ilikepopcans said:

YOU DEFEATED

obvious.

(I'm going to assume VICTORY ACHIEVED is the Demon Souls one, right?)

They patched out You Defeated and replaced it with Victory Achieved. Then people complained and they changed in again if I recall correctly.

What they actually changed it back? That is amazing, someone confirm this is true.

I've been playing the 360 version with the latest patches and it says You Defeated. Quick searching says it came back with the DLC patch.

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#32 Posted by forteexe21 (1481 posts) -

For some reason, i feel that YOU DEFEATED has a better feeling of achievement. Also, its more awesome if you play the game with people and everyone cheered "YOU DEFEATED!!" instead of "Victory achieved!"

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#33 Posted by DantronLesotho (60 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED is in the active voice, therefore it is correct.

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#34 Posted by Slag (7442 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED

24/7/365

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#35 Posted by dungbootle (2502 posts) -

you defeated fer sure

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#36 Edited by crithon (3979 posts) -

I say it in a Resident Evil voice

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#37 Posted by TruthTellah (9811 posts) -

*glances at the poll results*

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#38 Edited by MrBrian (89 posts) -

YOU KILLED IT

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#39 Edited by Monkeyman04 (2539 posts) -

*glances at the poll results*

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That made me laugh more than I think it should have.

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#40 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2646 posts) -

@xalienxgreyx said:

@mosespippy said:

@ilikepopcans said:

YOU DEFEATED

obvious.

(I'm going to assume VICTORY ACHIEVED is the Demon Souls one, right?)

They patched out You Defeated and replaced it with Victory Achieved. Then people complained and they changed in again if I recall correctly.

What they actually changed it back? That is amazing, someone confirm this is true.

I've been playing the 360 version with the latest patches and it says You Defeated. Quick searching says it came back with the DLC patch.

That's awesome thank you

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#41 Posted by MildMolasses (3200 posts) -

A WINNER IS YOU

I would accept this as a companion to the THANKS OBAMA mod

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#42 Posted by RonGalaxy (4782 posts) -

You Defeated dont even make no sense.

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#43 Posted by Nasar7 (3210 posts) -

@ilikepopcans: The Demon's Souls one was "The Demon Was Destroyed", with the subtext "You shall obtain the Demon Soul / And the power that is beyond human imagination". I really liked that subtext in all the Demon's Souls messages.

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#44 Edited by buneroid (455 posts) -

You defeated gives the game even more personality than it already had. Also the game telling me I defeated? You bet your ass I defeated. Does anyone know if the message was changed for Dark Souls 2? I really hope not.

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#45 Posted by CornBREDX (7222 posts) -

You defeated, no contest.

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#46 Posted by jgf (404 posts) -

@naru_joe93: See thats the spirit of Dark Souls. That game just constantly nags you. You fight your way to the boss over and over again. Then you enter the room and are slayed instantly. Nevermind, another try. Until you finally beat his bloody ass. Then what does this b**** of a game do? It applauds you with a message that doesn't even make sense. Thats Dark Souls.

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#47 Posted by jacksukeru (6600 posts) -

I like YOU DEFEATED 'cause it's fundumb but if we're going for what sounds better then...well ok, none of it does. It took me a while to see this while trying to think of better replacements for the currently implemented Engrish sounding text, but announcing HUMANITY RESTORED, BONFIRE LIT, VICTORY ACHIEVED or YOU DIED is kinda goofy regardless of how you try to phrase it. Doh, better just embrace it.

I would also take "YOU ARE VICTORIOUS" if it was an option. I feel like that's also in the spirit of the moment.

They should just go full on Demon's Souls and have barely legible subtext that expands upon the line.

"YOU WERE VICTORIOUS"

"but take heed, Undead, death still lurks behind every corner"

"YOU DIED"

"One step closer to the brink, how long can a sane mind hold out"

"HUMANITY RESTORED"

"A shallow reprieve for a cursed body. You have yourself together...for now"

That's the sort of dumb bombast I want.

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#48 Posted by MormonWarrior (2945 posts) -

I'd prefer if when you died it said "A DEFEATED IS YOU" or something along those lines. "You Defeated" is such sublimely bad English that it kind of adds a special kind of flavor to Dark Souls, just like all the horrifically butchered scriptural English such as "Cometh soon" that makes my skin crawl.

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#49 Posted by Dross (356 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED FOREVA

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#50 Posted by ShaggE (8485 posts) -

YOU DEFEATED deserves to join the pantheon of the all-time great moments of broken English in video games. It's right up there with YOU'RE WINNER.