Well, at least we still have the breast bounce page.
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@Marino said:
@Hamz: Honestly, I don't think they even warrant object pages. Technically, yes, they would be classified as objects, but are we going to have an object page for every body part, bone, organ, etc.? Seems useless and ripe for users to attach every possible humanoid character to everything.
By that same idea, pages for stuff like gun or grass or many other incredibly common things shouldn't bother being on here because they are capable of the same level of abuse.
Moreover, I remember the longstanding rule about wikis being "if it's not confirmed, then it's not something to be added". Frankly, just because someone is "male" in the game...unless there is a physical penis shown, it would mean that you can't add it, right?
Nonetheless, I think that what you said is just generally flimsy to say "well, these other objects shouldn't exist because it would lead to abuse".
As for these pages in general, they should exist as object pages ONLY if the objects are actually present in the game. That IS the way object pages work, right? We have to see the object IN THE GAME? If that's the case, it can't be abused nearly as bad as you have made it out. I understand that people can be dicks (no pun intended) and spam it with bullshit, but at the same time, saying "they shouldn't exist at all" is backwards progression.
@jakob187 said:
@Marino said:
@Hamz: Honestly, I don't think they even warrant object pages. Technically, yes, they would be classified as objects, but are we going to have an object page for every body part, bone, organ, etc.? Seems useless and ripe for users to attach every possible humanoid character to everything.
By that same idea, pages for stuff like gun or grass or many other incredibly common things shouldn't bother being on here because they are capable of the same level of abuse.
Moreover, I remember the longstanding rule about wikis being "if it's not confirmed, then it's not something to be added". Frankly, just because someone is "male" in the game...unless there is a physical penis shown, it would mean that you can't add it, right?
Nonetheless, I think that what you said is just generally flimsy to say "well, these other objects shouldn't exist because it would lead to abuse".
As for these pages in general, they should exist as object pages ONLY if the objects are actually present in the game. That IS the way object pages work, right? We have to see the object IN THE GAME? If that's the case, it can't be abused nearly as bad as you have made it out. I understand that people can be dicks (no pun intended) and spam it with bullshit, but at the same time, saying "they shouldn't exist at all" is backwards progression.
It's a somewhat slippery slope either way. Should we have a "Fingers" page? Should we have a "Ears" page? While they obviously appear in games, I don't think it's necessary.
As for your mention of gun and grass, grass specifically has been a long-standing debate. Pages like that, and "Earth" for example, are largely abused. The original idea for a "grass" page was for games that use grass in a significant way (i.e. Flower). It's not really supposed to be used for listing every baseball game ever made.
I would imagine we will be seeing quite a few changes in how things like this are handled once the new site rolls out.
(And, yes, I'll keep an eye out for LoL stuff at PAX for you.) ;)
@Marino said:
@jakob187 said:
@Marino said:
@Hamz: Honestly, I don't think they even warrant object pages. Technically, yes, they would be classified as objects, but are we going to have an object page for every body part, bone, organ, etc.? Seems useless and ripe for users to attach every possible humanoid character to everything.
By that same idea, pages for stuff like gun or grass or many other incredibly common things shouldn't bother being on here because they are capable of the same level of abuse.
Moreover, I remember the longstanding rule about wikis being "if it's not confirmed, then it's not something to be added". Frankly, just because someone is "male" in the game...unless there is a physical penis shown, it would mean that you can't add it, right?
Nonetheless, I think that what you said is just generally flimsy to say "well, these other objects shouldn't exist because it would lead to abuse".
As for these pages in general, they should exist as object pages ONLY if the objects are actually present in the game. That IS the way object pages work, right? We have to see the object IN THE GAME? If that's the case, it can't be abused nearly as bad as you have made it out. I understand that people can be dicks (no pun intended) and spam it with bullshit, but at the same time, saying "they shouldn't exist at all" is backwards progression.
It's a somewhat slippery slope either way. Should we have a "Fingers" page? Should we have a "Ears" page? While they obviously appear in games, I don't think it's necessary.
As for your mention of gun and grass, grass specifically has been a long-standing debate. Pages like that, and "Earth" for example, are largely abused. The original idea for a "grass" page was for games that use grass in a significant way (i.e. Flower). It's not really supposed to be used for listing every baseball game ever made.
I would imagine we will be seeing quite a few changes in how things like this are handled once the new site rolls out.
(And, yes, I'll keep an eye out for LoL stuff at PAX for you.) ;)
The thing that stuck out to me about these pages though is that were in an era where unlike ears or fingers the appearance of said genitalia are still a fairly rare occurrence. I guess the nudity page works but say for whatever reason you were curious to find out what games had specifically male nudity. Sure, games like GTA IV could be attached to the nudity page but that doesn't tell me the specifics at a glance.
@Demoskinos said:
The thing that stuck out to me about these pages though is that were in an era where unlike ears or fingers the appearance of said genitalia are still a fairly rare occurrence. I guess the nudity page works but say for whatever reason you were curious to find out what games had specifically male nudity. Sure, games like GTA IV could be attached to the nudity page but that doesn't tell me the specifics at a glance.
If the Nudity page is built/written properly, you could find that out fairly easily.
OK, there are now Phallic Imagery and Yonic Imagery pages.
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