Info unrelated to games in Wiki articles?

I've noticed that some pages about games tend to go into detail about things entirely unrelated to video games. To get a sense of what I'm talking about, take a look at the Pokémon franchise page. The article is well written and full of detail about the Pokémon video game franchise--until the giant list of Pokémon TV show episodes. I mean, I think it's perfectly fine to mention that the video game franchise expanded into a bunch of other types of media, but being that Giant Bomb is a website about video games, do you guys really want people to fill the wiki pages with a bunch of info about TV shows and the like?

I figure it's okay to discuss the show to an extent. But that list of episodes is unnecessary, and doesn't add any information at all. I've gone ahead and removed it.

The Naruto page also had a huge list of episodes on it, so I went ahead and removed those. Even without the episode list however, it's a pretty good example of what I'm talking about. It has a lot of information about the manga and the anime and whatnot, but hardly talks about video games at all. I would add something, but unfortunately I know nothing about Naruto.

Is it really hurting anything to have a list of episodes at the bottom of the franchise page for Naruto or Pokemon?

"Is it really hurting anything to have a list of episodes at the bottom of the franchise page for Naruto or Pokemon?"

"Is it really hurting anything to have a list of episodes at the bottom of the franchise page for Naruto or Pokemon?"

"MB said:

"Is it really hurting anything to have a list of episodes at the bottom of the franchise page for Naruto or Pokemon?"

See? A moderator has no problem with it. what gives you the right to complain? theres nothing wrong with it seeing as its important information about pokemon or naruto."

"Is it really hurting anything to have a list of episodes at the bottom of the franchise page for Naruto or Pokemon?"

Does it hurt anything to have the episode list on there?  If the episode list was at the bottom of the page in a clearly marked section, I just don't see the big problem with it.  This is especially true since there aren't exactly that many game franchises that also have related television shows.  I'm just not seeing the benefit of deleting the episode lists from franchise pages.

"Does it hurt anything to have the episode list on there?  If the episode list was at the bottom of the page in a clearly marked section, I just don't see the big problem with it.  This is especially true since there aren't exactly that many game franchises that also have related television shows.  I'm just not seeing the benefit of deleting the episode lists from franchise pages."

its not exploited for points. its there for information to people who go to that page. the page is meant for fans of pokemon to read info about. If someone takes time to put IMPORTANT info up no need to complain. People always push things off as an exploit of the point system. just leave it alone. I have 2 guides published now. before I published them they were both sections on the page for the two games. then when guides came out i made those and deleted them off the page cause i made a guide. if no guide no need to complain.

As this is a video game website, people come here looking for information about the Pokémon video games. A list of all the episode numbers and titles is not of any value to those people, as it has nothing to do with the Pokémon video games.

well who says that fans of the game are for sure not fans of the show? i completely respect your opinion but actually deleting it is going a bit far I think. I think you should have waited for a mod or something to post about whats up before making a change that someone spent time on. I spent alot of time about advance techniques and the tourny scene around ssbm( I actually hate it but its something to write about for the game, the tourny scene i mean) and someone deleted it.

"its not exploited for points. its there for information to people who go to that page. the page is meant for fans of pokemon to read info about. If someone takes time to put IMPORTANT info up no need to complain. People always push things off as an exploit of the point system. just leave it alone. I have 2 guides published now. before I published them they were both sections on the page for the two games. then when guides came out i made those and deleted them off the page cause i made a guide. if no guide no need to complain."

"well who says that fans of the game are for sure not fans of the show? i completely respect your opinion but actually deleting it is going a bit far I think. I think you should have waited for a mod or something to post about whats up before making a change that someone spent time on. I spent alot of time about advance techniques and the tourny scene around ssbm( I actually hate it but its something to write about for the game, the tourny scene i mean) and someone deleted it."

And if they did want information on the show, a list of episode names won't help them much anyway. They still have to go elsewhere for episode synopses and such. Unless we're supposed to include all that too.

yep. But the info is related to games. the t.v show listings are part of the pokemon franchise, so are the games, tv listings are all over whats the point in asking the staff to make a section on each page for tv listings (of course only for shows with t.v series) or comic books or manga or whatever. theres no point in bothering them to make a different section but just keep them on the page.

Once again, it all comes back to the fact that this is a video game website. I think the wiki section of a video game website should focus solely on, well, video games. Just because some franchises cover multiple types of media doesn't mean that Giant Bomb should cover every aspect of that franchise. If people want information on the entire Pokémon franchise they should go to a site dedicated to that kind of stuff, like Serebii.net or Bulbapedia. They should not be looking for these things on a video game website.

"Once again, it all comes back to the fact that this is a video game website. I think the wiki section of a video game website should focus solely on, well, video games. Just because some franchises cover multiple types of media doesn't mean that Giant Bomb should cover every aspect of that franchise. If people want information on the entire Pokémon franchise they should go to a site dedicated to that kind of stuff, like Serebii.net or Bulbapedia. They should not be looking for these things on a video game website."

"Once again, it all comes back to the fact that this is a video game website. I think the wiki section of a video game website should focus solely on, well, video games. Just because some franchises cover multiple types of media doesn't mean that Giant Bomb should cover every aspect of that franchise. If people want information on the entire Pokémon franchise they should go to a site dedicated to that kind of stuff, like Serebii.net or Bulbapedia. They should not be looking for these things on a video game website."

Now i am not trying to personally attack anyone like jayge is but I think that when its on the Pokemon Franchise page its okay to make a list of episodes. Talking about all forms of the franchise is okay. Like the pages for characters from homestarrunner.com. They talk about games they are in but also mention things like toons from the show or sbemails. if someone started doing tv listings on seperate games for pokemon or other things Id say thats a dirtbag move. This is meant to tell you all you need to know about the franchise.

"again thats all up to the mods. "

of course my bad. I do mean its up tot he staff. but the staff has already decided so.

"of course my bad. I do mean its up tot he staff. but the staff has already decided so."

well id say the fact that you are at a franchise page and you see info not necesarily bout just games and its still there. that kind of proves my point about how its such an immature complaint. I just want to know, why do you care about this and what do you think gives you the right to complain about something that belongs on the pages.

I am personally attacking nobody. Homestarrunner.com is dedicated specifically to HomeStar Runner and the rest of the cast of that franchise, this is dedicated solely to video-games.

"well id say the fact that you are at a franchise page and you see info not necesarily bout just games and its still there. that kind of proves my point about how its such an immature complaint. I just want to know, why do you care about this and what do you think gives you the right to complain about something that belongs on the pages."

im talking about pages about homestarrunner.com talking about the toons and stuff like that.

"im talking about pages about homestarrunner.com talking about the toons and stuff like that."

"MasturbatingBear said:

"im talking about pages about homestarrunner.com talking about the toons and stuff like that."

Examples, please?"

"MasturbatingBear said:

"im talking about pages about homestarrunner.com talking about the toons and stuff like that."

Examples, please?"

"check the franchise page."

"well id say the fact that you are at a franchise page and you see info not necesarily bout just games and its still there. that kind of proves my point about how its such an immature complaint. I just want to know, why do you care about this and what do you think gives you the right to complain about something that belongs on the pages."

Disregarding the fact that the franchise page appears to have been altered recently, and written absolutely terribly, that info says nothing of the franchise itself, and needs to be re-done.

"MasturbatingBear said:

"check the franchise page."

You just added that.
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"breton said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"check the franchise page."

You just added that.
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I did to make a point. anyone can do that. If you have a problem with something thats already been solved dont complain. and? was it irrelevant? no it has to do about the franchise."

"MasturbatingBear said:

"breton said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"check the franchise page."

You just added that.
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I did to make a point. anyone can do that. If you have a problem with something thats already been solved dont complain. and? was it irrelevant? no it has to do about the franchise."

That was nearly incoherent. What point were you making?"

"Jayge said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"breton said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"check the franchise page."

You just added that.
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I did to make a point. anyone can do that. If you have a problem with something thats already been solved dont complain. and? was it irrelevant? no it has to do about the franchise."

That was nearly incoherent. What point were you making?"

well for someone with a basic grasp of english you could have read it on the actual page or read my last post. anyone can do that and it wasnt irrelevant. it was very important. This topic is just another thing of people complaining about how other people are gaining points. Points dont matter so stop complaining people."

"MasturbatingBear said:

"Jayge said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"breton said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"check the franchise page."

You just added that.
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I did to make a point. anyone can do that. If you have a problem with something thats already been solved dont complain. and? was it irrelevant? no it has to do about the franchise."

That was nearly incoherent. What point were you making?"

well for someone with a basic grasp of english you could have read it on the actual page or read my last post. anyone can do that and it wasnt irrelevant. it was very important. This topic is just another thing of people complaining about how other people are gaining points. Points dont matter so stop complaining people."

You definitely don't grasp the point of this topic, as it is not about points. You also didn't get the point of my post, making the above response and attempted insult void. Control yourself."

"I did to make a point. anyone can do that. If you have a problem with something thats already been solved dont complain."

"again its all about grasp of english no one said its about points. "

"This topic is just another thing of people complaining about how other people are gaining points. Points dont matter so stop complaining people."

"MasturbatingBear said:

"I did to make a point. anyone can do that. If you have a problem with something thats already been solved dont complain."

You edited an article in question so it would support your side. Before it was edited, it was simply the blurb that stated "Games based around the popular internet cartoon Homestar Runner". If you want to discuss a games origins, or what it has branched off too.. then fine. But the page is about the game franchise. Not the franchise in whole. Homestar Runner obviously relates directly to the internet cartoon, but as a video game wiki, we don't need to catalogue a summary and listing of every cartoon ever produced. We need to catalague it's video game history. And as a video game, it related to the cartoon. So there is something to be said about the cartoon, but theres no reason to go in depth about it.
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"I agree that its not necessary. Im saying if someone wants to put it who is he to complain about information that is still relevant to the topic? by the way the thing about points was a joke... in case you couldn't tell. Im not trying to start a whole fight here im just stating my opinion"

I said its not necesary as in its not on the highest level of importance. I mean a page can go without a list of stuff like that but if someone is willing to take the time to do that then why complain? just trying to learn something to the peoples amirite?

"I said its not necesary as in its not on the highest level of importance. I mean a page can go without a list of stuff like that but if someone is willing to take the time to do that then why complain? just trying to learn something to the peoples amirite?"

would you delete information about the movie a game may have been based upon? like for instance escape from butcher bay, it should have info relating to pitch black and chronicles of riddick because of the plot

"And you just agreed to it being unnecessary. Why are you defending it? The pokemon TV show is relevant, and should certainly be mentioned. But we don't need a complete episode listing."

"would you delete information about the movie a game may have been based upon? like for instance escape from butcher bay, it should have info relating to pitch black and chronicles of riddick because of the plot"

"MasturbatingBear said:

"I said its not necesary as in its not on the highest level of importance. I mean a page can go without a list of stuff like that but if someone is willing to take the time to do that then why complain? just trying to learn something to the peoples amirite?"

Take the time? It's a copy-and-paste list. Nobody would bother taking the time to type something like that out."

"Was it really a copy and paste list? if so why not state that?