Android OS or Apple iOS?

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#1  Edited By KaosAngel
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#2  Edited By KaosAngel

Let's be honest here, only one of these two mobile OS will get out there on top.  Windows Phone 7 is shit and I think most of us here would rather eat buffalo shit while being pissed on by a rhino than use that piece of shit OS. 
 
So, which one is better?

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#3  Edited By fwylo

Decided to go public on our little quarrel eh Kaos... 
 
PHONE OS.... FIGHT!

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#4  Edited By Reuben

A jailbroken iPhone I'd like to think is better than an Android. If we're saying a stock thing then definitely Android just because it has the potential to be so much better than the iOS.

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#5  Edited By BabyChooChoo

Both are great OS (...es?), but I prefer Android. The iOS is amazing too, but I don't want or need an IPhone so meh.

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#6  Edited By KaosAngel
@fwylo: Oh it's on.  The problem with Android is that the handsets are all different and there's no uniform structure.  How many of last year's handsets will get the 2.3 update?   
 
The best phone for Android are the Nexus models, but all the other ones are shit.  With iOS you have the iPad/iPhone 4 which work fine.  Speaking of which, Android OS doesn't even support Tablets yet while iOS does.
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#7  Edited By Jack268

I know that android is great and all, but my experience with it the times I've used it has been horrible compared to the times I use my iphone.  
  
The iphone may not have access to the plethora of apps that android has, but with ios, you know shit will work the way it's meant to. I also find having buttons reacting to touch that nearly melt into the screen on a lot android phones to be fucking stupid, but that's not an OS issue. 
 
But to be frank, the apps I have for my phone are good enough. I don't think I'd be happier with an android phone.

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#8  Edited By fwylo
@KaosAngel: That isn't a problem with android...  Operating System does not include hardware. 
 
Sure it sucks that phones are left behind but they are still functional.  And you're right there isn't a designated tablet version of Android that is public yet...  Minus the SDK came out today I guess. 
I disagree that all the other phones are shit, before a lot of the UI changes of Froyo Sense UI from HTC was by far the best.  They also had the best hardware.  
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#9  Edited By KaosAngel
@fwylo: HTC is the exception, but the majority of the phones aren't that good.  Android should've at least forced the mobile manufacturers a strict hardware requirements like Microsoft did with WP7, and the fact that a good percentage of the handsets aren't up to par  holds it back.  Also the apps on Android have a chance to not work while on iOS, Apple makes sure everything works and is within the right grounds (be it good or bad).  
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#10  Edited By jozzy

I chose android, but I have to admit I have the HTC Desire Z.

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#11  Edited By fwylo

When Froyo dropped and Gingerbread was announced.  Google announced the minimum requirements for all Android based phones to receive any further updates. 
 
1 Ghz processor 
512 MB ram 
800x480 screen resolution. 
 
The exact specs of the Nexus One basically. 
 
And ya the apps have a chance not to work thats true, one of the drawbacks of an open system/market basically.  Just a matter of how much control you would like Google to actually have. 
 
Here's my argument from the Epic PM if you missed it. 
 

The point of an operating system is to provide the smoothest and most functionally efficient way of doing everything at anytime.  And like wolf said, iOS sacrifices a lot of that for its accessibility. There are 2 buttons on the damn thing so you don't have to think about what you're doing.  All your apps are right in front of you so you just look and touch it.  It makes perfect sense for a lot of people, but it really isn't the best way of doing things. 
 
Android's widgets and WP7's screen layout are perfect.  You take the data you look at and need the most and put it right on your homescreen.  I go through the majority of most days without even opening an app because all of it is right there in front of me.  I wake up my phone, slide across a couple pages, look through a few tweets and facebook status', check a couple news headlines, glance at how a couple stock portfolios are doing, and then reply to a message, without even opening up an app.  You'd have to open 5 different apps to do that on an iphone and return to the main screen each time.  It's just not efficient


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Windows CE FTW!!!!

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#13  Edited By beej
@KaosAngel from a hardware perspective, the galaxy line is alright. They may have a few problems, but I don't know about calling them shit...
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#14  Edited By KaosAngel
@fwylo said:

" You'd have to open 5 different apps to do that on an iphone and return to the main screen each time.  It's just not efficient                                        "

I will admit that is iOS's fault, and looking at iOS's updates...most of it is behind the OS instead of stuff that people would see.  However, since 4.0, all the push updates tell you want's going on...and opening an App isn't that bad.  For Facebook I just open it FB and type it, double click on home and switch to Google Voice and text there, etc.  You get used to it. 
 
However, if someone was to pick a handset for the first time I would say pick iOS if they aren't heavily tied to a Google account.  If they are like me and do use every Google service to an extreme, then pick with Android.  Android's best feature is the Google Account stuff, all that cloud based stuff is years above everyone else.   
 
Yet, the masses don't care and iOS just grows on you.  Maybe it has to do with fanboyism, or maybe Apple does indeed make good software.
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#15  Edited By fwylo
@KaosAngel: I agree people adapt Apple products and things like that because they are easy.  So accessible and anyone can use them because the buttons and shit are right there so there is no thinking involved.  So of course you'll get soccer mom's and little girls and jock boys and all these people that can pick one up.  Plug it in to their computer which either already has itunes or will have it in the next 10 minutes and bam its done you have one of the easiest and most popular phones ever. 
 
Its really a matter of what you see as "better".  Functionality or accessability. Just because it's popular doesn't mean its better.  
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#16  Edited By bravetoaster

Android.  

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#17  Edited By Aus_azn

As the proud owner of a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate, I can attest to the majority of Android hardware being intergalactic monkey bollocks.
 
HTC is probably the de-facto Android OEM now, in terms of quality and specifications.
 
@fwylo said:

" @KaosAngel: I agree people adapt Apple products and things like that because they are easy.  So accessible and anyone can use them because the buttons and shit are right there so there is no thinking involved.  So of course you'll get soccer mom's and little girls and jock boys and all these people that can pick one up.  Plug it in to their computer which either already has itunes or will have it in the next 10 minutes and bam its done you have one of the easiest and most popular phones ever.  Its really a matter of what you see as "better".  Functionality or accessability. Just because it's popular doesn't mean its better.   "

Right down to the letter. It's a crap device in tech specs and user options, but it's accessible.
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#18  Edited By ISuperGamerI
@KaosAngel said:
" @fwylo: Oh it's on.  The problem with Android is that the handsets are all different and there's no uniform structure.  How many of last year's handsets will get the 2.3 update?    The best phone for Android are the Nexus models, but all the other ones are shit.  With iOS you have the iPad/iPhone 4 which work fine.  Speaking of which, Android OS doesn't even support Tablets yet while iOS does. "
The Android OS does support tablets, not sure what you are talking about. I love both mobile operating systems, but I voted for the Apple iOS since the iPhone 4 is too awesome. :)
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#19  Edited By zidd

I own an Android phone and I like the openness of it but there are several advantages to having the closed ecosystem Apple offers with the iPhone iPod Touch and the iPad. 

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#20  Edited By flaminghobo

Bada.

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#21  Edited By xyzygy

Android because of HTC Desire Z. 
 
There is absolutely no way you can compare it to iOS.

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@Reuben said:
" A jailbroken iPhone I'd like to think is better than an Android. If we're saying a stock thing then definitely Android just because it has the potential to be so much better than the iOS. "

I was going to say this, so thank you :)

The stock iOS is decent and very user-friendly, while the Android OS has all my non-tech co-workers asking me for help (even though I have an iPhone.) After seeing quite a bit of the Android OS, I'd have to say I love my Jailbroken iPhone more.

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#24  Edited By FunExplosions

Again, my Droid X sucks balls.

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#25  Edited By timmysprinkles
@Jack268 said:
" I know that android is great and all, but my experience with it the times I've used it has been horrible compared to the times I use my iphone.    The iphone may not have access to the plethora of apps that android has, but with ios, you know shit will work the way it's meant to. I also find having buttons reacting to touch that nearly melt into the screen on a lot android phones to be fucking stupid, but that's not an OS issue.  But to be frank, the apps I have for my phone are good enough. I don't think I'd be happier with an android phone. "  
I couldn't agree more.
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#26  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator
@KaosAngel said:

" @fwylo: HTC is the exception, but the majority of the phones aren't that good.  Android should've at least forced the mobile manufacturers a strict hardware requirements like Microsoft did with WP7, and the fact that a good percentage of the handsets aren't up to par  holds it back.  "

You know, when start a debate about which phone OS best, and then you start fighting your corner by criticizing hardware, you've lost the debate. Hardware is not the OS. If the question was "Android Phones or iPhones", you would have a point about the Android hardware, but you're not asking that, you're asking about the OS.
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#27  Edited By fwylo
@MattyFTM said:
" @KaosAngel said:
" @fwylo: HTC is the exception, but the majority of the phones aren't that good.  Android should've at least forced the mobile manufacturers a strict hardware requirements like Microsoft did with WP7, and the fact that a good percentage of the handsets aren't up to par  holds it back.  Also the apps on Android have a chance to not work while on iOS, Apple makes sure everything works and is within the right grounds (be it good or bad).   "
You know, when start a debate about which phone OS best, and then you start using the fighting your corner by criticizing hardware, you've lost the debate. Hardware is not the OS. If the question was "Android Phones or iPhones", you would have a point about the Android hardware, but you're not asking that, you're asking about the OS. "
Matty FTM has spoken. 
 
I have officially won the debate, feel free to lock.
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#28  Edited By minorinya
@animathias: Not exactly what you were talking about, but I just wanted to address the issue of the argument - iOS is definitely easier to pick up and work away, but that does not mean that it's the better OS. Again, I don't think that was your point, but it's something that needs to be said. Some of the familiarity with the iPhone also comes with its popularity. 
 
That said, when my mother's cell phone contract was ending, I considered recommending the iPhone, and not an Android phone, to her. However, I'd pick Android for myself any day. Android is innately an open product, and even phones with tweaks that protect itself from rooting are eventually worked through. I personally have an HTC Incredible with cyanogenmod7 (that's Gingerbread), and I have yet to meet a barrier in what I want to do with it. Most publicly reported bugs with specific custom UIs from manufacturers have been either addressed quickly or bypassed through rooting. 
 
Also, minimum specs for Honeycomb do not exist. 
http://twitter.com/morrildl/status/22845294886518785#
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#29  Edited By crusader8463

None of the above since I don't own a cell phone and have no need for one. My phone sits on the wall, has numbers 1-9 on it with a # and * flanking the 0. When I need to call some one I pick it up, hit some combination of those numbers, and guess what? IT FUCKING CALLS THEM! Crazy I know. A phone for phone calls. Technology. Crazy isn't it.

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#30  Edited By Siphillis

From a consumer's perspective, iOS is a no-nonsense, works-as-intended quality OS.  It downloads and runs almost all apps on the store, and surfs the internet exceedingly well. 
Android, with some low-level tweaking, can do everything iOS can, but faster, and with better general integration between apps.   
 
From a developer's point of view, Android has a much friendlier, more active community of modifiers, and Android apps run on Java, rather than Apple's proprietary Cocoa and the archaic Objective-C. The Just-in-Time compiler on Android 2.2-onwards is the envy of the smartphone world.
 
It's essential that you get your hands on each, but personally, I find iOS very stale and catered.   Jailbreaking iOS is a sloppy and thoroughly underwhelming practice, especially in comparison to rooting Android, which allows for custom UIs.

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#31  Edited By SomeJerk

When I'm not making phonecalls, dealing with text messages or using GPS to help my driver out in a new area, I like to emulate Sega Dreamcast games such as Shenmue, and that is only possible on Android OS. I also like not having to have iTunes on anything I want to connect it to, and interchangeable batteries, and freedom of choice. Quite a few countries were founded upon what Android OS provides.

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#32  Edited By JJWeatherman
@KaosAngel said:
" Let's be honest here, only one of these two mobile OS will get out there on top.  Windows Phone 7 is shit and I think most of us here would rather eat buffalo shit while being pissed on by a rhino than use that piece of shit OS.  So, which one is better? "
Wow, really? Windows 7 seems great. Friendly neighborhood Will Smith tends to agree. 
 
But of these two, Android is better due to it's openness. Higher potential I think.
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#33  Edited By WinterSnowblind

KaosAngel dislikes something by Microsoft?  I am shocked. 
But yeah, Android.

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#34  Edited By blogpostnogood

Android all the way.
 
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#35  Edited By Rattle618

Android is technically superior, it´s a very powerful and flexible platform. 
But of course that´s what you get when you work upon the mighty foundation that is Linux :)

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#36  Edited By Enigma777

iOS. I understand that Android is more open and has less gay limitations than iOS, but when it comes down to it, it's nowhere near as polished. I find the interface clunky and ugly and I'd rather deal with Apple's bullshit iTunes crap than use Android. 

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#37  Edited By MikkaQ

iOS all the way, Android has an inconsistent visual style across platforms, and it's kinda generic looking. Also there's not nearly as many apps.  
 
I have no want or need for an open ecosystem on my cellphone. It's a damn cellphone so whatever gets the job done the easiest and fastest takes precedence.  Minimum fiddling around, more getting stuff done.  
 
When comparing portable OSses, I think ease of use and UI are the two most important things.

Plus you can't beat that Apple polish, that's where all the extra money goes. 

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#38  Edited By toowalrus

I' haven't used an android device for more than 15 minutes, so I have no idea what kind of crazy stuff it's capable of, but I do use my iPod touch every day in college and at home, and I love the thing, so I'm going to stick with that for now.

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#39  Edited By blogpostnogood

The system which runs Game Dev Story the best wins.

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#40  Edited By Siphillis
@animathias said:
" @Reuben said:
" A jailbroken iPhone I'd like to think is better than an Android. If we're saying a stock thing then definitely Android just because it has the potential to be so much better than the iOS. "

I was going to say this, so thank you :)

The stock iOS is decent and very user-friendly, while the Android OS has all my non-tech co-workers asking me for help (even though I have an iPhone.) After seeing quite a bit of the Android OS, I'd have to say I love my Jailbroken iPhone more.

"
I'm fairly unimpressed with jailbroken iOS 4.2 on my iPod touch.  Apart from the (amazing) Lock-Screen Calendar, MxTube, and Activator, the vast majority of "unlocked" features are standard for Android, or available on the Android Market (themes, widgets, ect.).  Cydia is a lousy secondary marketplace, and purchasing anything from there seems foolish; there's no guarantee that every app will continue to work, or any intuitive way to back up purchases as far as I'm concerned.  Overall speed and stability have taken a hit, and extraneous behavior - while not devastating - is annoying and unsightly.  
 
That said, unrooting an Android device is tricky.  Restoring iOS is a breeze.  To each his own.
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#41  Edited By No0b0rAmA

Android. It's not a closed piece of shit platform like iOS.

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#42  Edited By napalm

I prefer the iOS on my iPod Touch, because I have a Macbook which is paramount for school, which has all of my music, files, etc., and it just makes way more sense for me to have a singular system to transfer files and such across. I really like the iOS interface. It's really clean, easy to use and doesn't give me any major issues.

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#43  Edited By galiant

I like the iOS. From what I've seen of the Android OS I can't say I much care for it. I'm happy with my iPhone!

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#44  Edited By Noted

Very happy with my Samsung Omnia 7. Best phone I've ever had.

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#45  Edited By Hosstile17

I like my iPhone. I dunno. Buy what you like.