awareness of video game graphic going backward

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#1  Edited By AnnouncerGXZ

DIRT 2 graphic look better than DIRT 3

WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2008 graphic look better WWE 12

MOTORSTORM PACIFIC RIFT graphic look better than MOTORSTORM APOCALYPSE

why?

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#2  Edited By selbie

Because video games.

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#3  Edited By LordXavierBritish

Time travel.

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#4  Edited By Little_Socrates

Because the technical fidelity-based arms race is finally coming to a close and we're in a day and age where it's not even remotely controversial to refer to Journey as the best looking game on the PS3.

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#5  Edited By prestonhedges

Because the consoles won.

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#6  Edited By JasonR86

@AnnouncerGXZ said:

DIRT 2 graphic look better than DIRT 3

WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2008 graphic look better WWE 12

MOTORSTORM PACIFIC RIFT graphic look better than MOTORSTORM APOCALYPSE

why?

Because that's your opinion. I think it's wrong and that's my opinion.

...opinions, man.

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#7  Edited By FreakAche

AnnouncerGXZ is back!

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#8  Edited By deathstriker666

Don't you get so annoy?

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#9  Edited By Blackout62

@Little_Socrates said:

Because the technical fidelity-based arms race is finally coming to a close and we're in a day and age where it's not even remotely controversial to refer to Journey as the best looking game on the PS3.

Journey is pretty damned good looking, though I wish they'd found a way to hide the aliasing.

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I no, it annoy me sometimes as well. Why can't game all look like crysis? (Ironically, Crysis 2 felt like a downgrade over Crysis Warhead, although Crytek 3 seems like better tech.)

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#11  Edited By Patman99

@Little_Socrates said:

Because the technical fidelity-based arms race is finally coming to a close and we're in a day and age where it's not even remotely controversial to refer to Journey as the best looking game on the PS3.

Although I agree with the notion of perhaps more artistically engaging visual styles becoming more of a focus in discussing graphics, the idea that we are at the "peak" of the evolution of graphics is wrong. You didnt exactly say that but a lot of people have. Yeah, the "arms-race" may be slowing but it will never stop and we will always slowly be improving in the graphics department. But Journey and other games with a similar approach on graphics are quickly becoming my preferred graphical style.

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#12  Edited By Sackmanjones

Uhhh

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#14  Edited By ESREVER

I'd go as far as to say Wizorb is the best looking game of the year for me so far. Actually, it may be tied with Journey.

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#15  Edited By TruthTellah

We're at the time in the console cycle where mechanics are differentiating games far more than pure graphics; so, if cutting the graphics back a bit can make the game more complex or run better, developers seem to be taking that route over cutting features for the sake of pure graphics power.

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#16  Edited By Little_Socrates

@Patman99: Didn't mean to imply that graphics could no longer be improved; actually, at some point, we will hopefully reach a point that causes current graphics to look completely ridiculous. But games already cost too much to make these days; one way to cut cost is to slow fidelity and asset development. The goal right now for game developers is to figure out how to make amazing games in the scope of an epic title or experience while still finding a way to cut some spending.

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@FreakAche said:
AnnouncerGXZ is back!
He has always been an enigma to me, I wish there was like a documentary of his life or something. Based on his posts over the years I can only imagine he is a fascinating individual.
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#18  Edited By DarthOrange

@AnnouncerGXZ said:

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#19  Edited By biospank

uh motorstorm they needed to make it 3d so less awesome-like graphics needed to make a stable fps.

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#20  Edited By stonyman65

@gladspooky said:

Because the consoles won.

Actually, PCs won. That's why everyone is making console games now.

And THAT is why we are having this problem in the first place.

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#21  Edited By WinterSnowblind

It's simply because people care less about graphics these days. We would rather have better features, more cars on the track, games that move at 60fps, or simply a better art style. As others have said, Journey is so far, easily the best looking game this year, despite being very simplistic. Creating a better user experience is more important than "OMG, THIS IS TEH BEST LOOKING GAME EVER" (until the next game comes out).

Expect the next-gen systems to continue like this.

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#22  Edited By iam3green

changing stuff. i don't know either. i do wish that they used the engine that they used crysis on. i have to say that its' the best graphics engine out there.

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#23  Edited By Patman99

@Little_Socrates: Ah, that makes more sense. I agree. I personally love games that try to have a more artistic art style. Really puts the visual art aspect into video games.

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#25  Edited By DeF

ooh ... teh graphikz

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#26  Edited By AlexanderSheen

@DarthOrange said:

@AnnouncerGXZ said:

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Aren't you annoy?

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#27  Edited By saethir

I think the simple explanation, though I can't say if it is right, would be to blame feature creep. The games are running on the same tech, but the sequel wants to do more things. Therefore the priority gets shifted to that rather than making the graphics better, and in some cases, the graphics are worse to allow things like more enemies, different lighting, larger environments, or what have you.

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#28  Edited By Humanity

Every game I bought at the end of 2011 made me think the graphics made a real leap forward compared to the games from late 2010. Dead Space 2 looked phenomenal, Gears 3 looked better than past gears games. Arkham City looked on bar if not better with Asylum.Skyrim looked great and certainly better than Oblivion or any of the Fallouts. Saints Row the Third looked a ton better than Saints Row 2 etc etc. I'm not really seeing it.

At most I thought Battlefield 3 didn't look all that much different than Bad Company 2 (on console that is) but I think it was just all the weird special effects they slapped on BF3.

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#29  Edited By hockeymask27

Usually do to fps concerns. Lots of 07 sport games had awesome detail and sweat but only ran at 30 fps max.

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#30  Edited By WightnNerdy

I remember Gears 3 and Uncharted 3 looking much better than Gears 2 and Uncharted 2, respectively. Lots of games look better looking than their predecessors.

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Because the Mayans were right!

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#32  Edited By AlexW00d

Because consoles.

Although Dirt 3 does indeed to look better than Dirt 2.

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#33  Edited By musubi

Joke topic right? Right? =\

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#34  Edited By Justin258

I'd rather have better performance than better graphics. A game with flat textures that moves at a constant 60FPS? I'll take it!

Yeah, I know, I could just get a gaming PC. Next generation, maybe. Right now I can't justify that when already owning a nice laptop and an Xbox.

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#35  Edited By Slaegar

@WinterSnowblind said:

It's simply because people care less about graphics these days. We would rather have better features, more cars on the track, games that move at 60fps, or simply a better art style. As others have said, Journey is so far, easily the best looking game this year, despite being very simplistic. Creating a better user experience is more important than "OMG, THIS IS TEH BEST LOOKING GAME EVER" (until the next game comes out).

Expect the next-gen systems to continue like this.

You know they took the ability to holster your gun away in Mass Effect 3 to save resources used to make the game look "better"?

http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-3/61-29935/holster-your-weapon-help/35-538697/

You must be ignoring all the thing they sacrifice to make games look marginally better on consoles.

As for me, my game graphics keep looking better. Crysis to Metro 2033 to Battlefield 3, heck my games look better all the time:

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?searchtexthidden=&childpublishedfileid=0&section=items&appid=72850&browsesort=trend&requiredtags%5B%5D=Graphics

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#36  Edited By xbob42

Because the consoles are old as fuck and as games get bigger they have to look worse on these ancient ass consoles to actually fucking run.

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#37  Edited By phrali

TOPICS ARE GETTING STUPIDER ALL THE TIME WHHHYYYYY

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#38  Edited By WinterSnowblind

@Slaegar: There are obviously exceptions. Some companies/people still think graphics are the only thing that matters, even if it means sacrificing gameplay. In my opinion, that's stupid.

And no, I don't care about your PC.

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#39  Edited By Masha2932

I actually prefer that games graphics embrace unique artistic art styles instead of the realism most games are striving for. Games like POP 08, Valkyria chronicles, Wind waker, Okami, El-Shaddai will still look great years from now because of their distinct styles. Many 2D side scrollers from the NES era still look good as well.

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#40  Edited By Wikitoups
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@gladspooky said:

Because the consoles won.

Actually, PCs won. That's why everyone is making console games now.

And THAT is why we are having this problem in the first place.

CONSPIRACY!!!!
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#41  Edited By fox01313

Depends on the schedule of the game, amount of people at the studio (if the same studio) that they put to it & if there's some differences in the engines used between the game. I remember from the bombcast where they were talking about the game Damnation & how they downgraded a lot of the art quite a bit from how it was supposed to look. Maybe they were redoing a lot of the better high resolution art & ran out of time or because of budget they were just going to rush it out without the better art from the previous game. Or maybe you're focusing so much on how different the game looks from the previous one that it blocks the ability of you enjoying playing the sequel.

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#42  Edited By ajamafalous

Don't you get annoy when graphic go back?

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#43  Edited By JasonR86

@phrali said:

TOPICS ARE GETTING STUPIDER ALL THE TIME WHHHYYYYY

Topic go backward with time. Bit like graphic, no?

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#44  Edited By sammo21

the graphics weren't the worst problem with the new Motorstorm. I think they ruined the entire formula for that series. The second Motorstorm is still amazing.

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I'v heard some people claim Napoleon looks better than Shogun 2.

It looks more realistic due to the art direction though, Shogun 2 is technically better graphically.

Crysis 2 is the main one that comes to mind. The tight enviroments, uninteractive enviroments and lack of draw distance was a sign of console development. Waste of money. Crytek big sellouts.

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