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#1  Edited By Kyreo
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#2  Edited By Kyreo

It comes down to Who you think makes the better RPGs and why...

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#3  Edited By Noodlearms

BioWare, no question.
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#4  Edited By Video_Game_King

Square. In fact, here's a present for BioWare:
 
 

Granted, I haven't played a single BioWare game, but THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M VOTING FOR SQUARE!
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#5  Edited By izzygraze

I think it's more whether you like western or eastern style RPGs. I like western, so I chose Bioware.

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#6  Edited By rjayb89

If I were a young lad, Square Enix most definitely, but now my <3 belongs to BioWare.  And GB, presumably.

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#7  Edited By Kyreo
@Video_Game_King:  Wow... that was fantastically dramatic.  I'm starting to think twice about voting for BioWare.
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#8  Edited By rjayb89
@Video_Game_King: F Sephiroth.  That dude Super Nova'd me like 10 times since I was level 99.
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#9  Edited By Oriental_Jams

Not once played a Square Enix game, so Bioware it is.

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#10  Edited By WitchHunter_Z

Bioware, easy choice. Square isn't even top of the JRPG mountain anymore for me, last Final Fantasy I really enjoyed was VII. Bioware on the other hand still releases awesome classic feeling games [Dragon Age] as well as more modern stuff [Mass Effect 2].
Going by back catalouge is a little more difficult, as both companies have fantastic ones that contain many of my favourite games; I'd still pick Bioware but it's alot closer.

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#11  Edited By Teh_Eel

Bioware, mainly because I prefer western rpgs, and dislike the FF series.

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#12  Edited By Nock

I picked square, but really really. I'm saying yes they both make RPGs but two very different beasts. I'm saying this is like saying Hamburgs or Pizza, sure they are both food but scratch diffrent itches.

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BioWare for sure, I just don't really enjoy JRPGs all that much.

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#14  Edited By tomte

i prefer linear games so i'll go with square on this one. Also, i like the bright tone in most jrpgs over the dull ones in wrpgs

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#15  Edited By Atlas

Is Bethesda supposed to be a joke choice? If so, fuck you.
 
Of the two main choices, so to speak, BioWare hands down.

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#16  Edited By Binman88

Bioware, because I haven't played many Square games. I would have picked Bethesda if they had stopped making games after Morrowind!

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#17  Edited By The5th

Hmm. Hard choice for me but I voted Square. I'm not voting for recent games though, cause I find that both Square and Bioware have come out with horribly dull games with dull characters to boot. This is all just opinion though so don't kill me, please. I couldn't get into Mass Effect cause I really didn't care for the boring characters in the game, same for Star Ocean. Last Bioware game I played was Jade Empire and when I think back on it, the characters were really dull. I don't know if anyone else is like me but I really look at character design when I buy a game, if I don't like the characters then I could care less what their goals are or what the game is about. Obviously gameplay will always come first to anything but at least a likable character will always draw me in that much quicker.

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#18  Edited By Turambar

Square.  I play Bioware games because they do good things with the narrative that my favorite Square games did better.  Like I said before, every choice present in a Bioware game have always lacked weight for me.

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#19  Edited By Kyreo
@Atlas said:
" Is Bethesda supposed to be a joke choice? If so, fuck you.  Of the two main choices, so to speak, BioWare hands down. "
Chill.  I love Bethesda, I just added that option in case anyone felt like trolling.
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#20  Edited By penguindust

SquareEnix was better when they were just "Square".  Bioware wins, in my opinion, as far are games made in the last half-decade or so. 

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#21  Edited By ryanwho
@xobballox said:
" BioWare for sure, I just don't really enjoy JRPGs all that much. "
Neither does Bioware, which explains why their sad attempt was such a piece of shit.
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#22  Edited By Clinkz

Well I just voted for Bioware because of KotOR but after thinking about it wtf am I doing definitely Square.
 
Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, and Final Fantasy X had AMAZING stories I think just topping KotOR. The reason I put them above Bioware is because the other games (Mass Effect-trash story, Dragon Age-pretty good) don't  come near the quality that was in those games. Now that FFXIII is coming out... the glory days are over.

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#23  Edited By Atlas
@Kyreo:@Kyreo said:

" @Atlas said:

" Is Bethesda supposed to be a joke choice? If so, fuck you.  Of the two main choices, so to speak, BioWare hands down. "

Chill.  I love Bethesda, I just added that option in case anyone felt like trolling. "
And apparently I did. 'Scool.
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#24  Edited By jacksukeru

I'm gonna say both, I have enough money not to have to choose one above the other and I can enjoy both equally, just in different ways. 
 
Also on my list, Atlus.

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#25  Edited By Atlas
@RockmanBionics: Me? I'm flattered.
 
Oh wait...
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#26  Edited By pause422

Square'soft' made some good games, but Square nowadays has yet to impress me with anything. Bioware.

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#27  Edited By VIGGO123

Bioware for me...
I really don't like JRPGs

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#28  Edited By ryanwho
@VIGGO123 said:
" Bioware for me... I really don't like JRPGs "
Funny, people seem to like FF12's battle system more when its in Dragon Age.
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#29  Edited By FluxWaveZ

I suppose BioWare, even though I love The World Ends With You.  Only Final Fantasy game I've almost played to completion is FFX.  But I'm hyped for Mass Effect 2 and Final Fantasy XIII and I'm planning to pick both of those games up.

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#30  Edited By Cube

BioWare if any, although I don't really like their games either.

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#31  Edited By Kyreo

Now that I think about, I enjoyed playing Final Fantasy 1 more than I enjoyed play Mass Effect.  

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#32  Edited By Siris

MASS EFFECT 2 IN 3 DAYS! YES!

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#33  Edited By Jeust

Obsidian!!!!

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#34  Edited By WinterSnowblind
@ryanwho said:
" @VIGGO123 said:
" Bioware for me... I really don't like JRPGs "
Funny, people seem to like FF12's battle system more when its in Dragon Age. "
Dragon Age's battle system was more akin to Baldur's Gate, which was the whole point of DA.. 

Even if they had copied the system from FF12, the difference is that DA did it well, where as in FFXII it was a confusing, frustrating, unbalanced mess.  Having to unlock the A.I. pramaters was just ridiculous.  It didn't work, and it wasn't fun.  Which is a shame, as I otherwise very much enjoyed the more political storyline that XII had, over the usual preteen melodrama we saw in the previous games.
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@WinterSnowblind said:
" @ryanwho said:
" @VIGGO123 said:
" Bioware for me... I really don't like JRPGs "
Funny, people seem to like FF12's battle system more when its in Dragon Age. "
Dragon Age's battle system was more akin to Baldur's Gate, which was the whole point of DA..  Even if they had copied the system from FF12, the difference is that DA did it well, where as in FFXII it was a confusing, frustrating, unbalanced mess.  Having to unlock the A.I. pramaters was just ridiculous.  It didn't work, and it wasn't fun.  Which is a shame, as I otherwise very much enjoyed the more political storyline that XII had, over the usual preteen melodrama we saw in the previous games. "
Yeah... I think he's just mad at people that say that don't like JRPGs... I don't know.  The main problem with them for me is what you mentioned, the pre-teen melodrama stories that are generally in JRPGs.  I can enjoy a JRPG if the story is not something where some unlikely pre-teen is randomly extremely powerful and saves the world. 
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#36  Edited By VIGGO123
@xobballox said:
" @WinterSnowblind said:
" @ryanwho said:
" @VIGGO123 said:
" Bioware for me... I really don't like JRPGs "
Funny, people seem to like FF12's battle system more when its in Dragon Age. "
Dragon Age's battle system was more akin to Baldur's Gate, which was the whole point of DA..  Even if they had copied the system from FF12, the difference is that DA did it well, where as in FFXII it was a confusing, frustrating, unbalanced mess.  Having to unlock the A.I. pramaters was just ridiculous.  It didn't work, and it wasn't fun.  Which is a shame, as I otherwise very much enjoyed the more political storyline that XII had, over the usual preteen melodrama we saw in the previous games. "
Yeah... I think he's just mad at people that say that don't like JRPGs... I don't know.  The main problem with them for me is what you mentioned, the pre-teen melodrama stories that are generally in JRPGs.  I can enjoy a JRPG if the story is not something where some unlikely pre-teen is randomly extremely powerful and saves the world.  "
Yeah, i don't really have a problem with the gameplay, but it's usually the crazy story and the ridiculous character that is my main concern...
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#37  Edited By raidingkvatch

BioWare, better stories, better characters, plus I prefer the BioWare style of gameplay to Square's more turn-based stuff

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#38  Edited By SquirrelGOD

BioWare.  I can play as male characters in their games.

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#39  Edited By JJOR64

Square for there other properties.

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#40  Edited By Kyreo
@SquirrelGOD said:
" BioWare.  I can play as male characters in their games. "
Comment of the day, right here.
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#41  Edited By jeffgoldblum
@ryanwho said:
" @VIGGO123 said:
" Bioware for me... I really don't like JRPGs "
Funny, people seem to like FF12's battle system more when its in Dragon Age. "
There is a lot more to an RPG than a battle system.
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#42  Edited By ArbitraryWater

Haven't we had two topics already that have covered this subject? Bah, whatever. 
Bioware.

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#43  Edited By Jeust
@The5th said:

" I'm not voting for recent games though, cause I find that both Square and Bioware have come out with horribly dull games with dull characters to boot. This is all just opinion though so don't kill me, please."

The same, both Dragon Age and FFXIII don't appeal to me all that much.  
 
Each of the two companies have their forte and neither one's games are perfect, so it is a tie. The same applying to Bethesda, as their games are great, but do get old rather quickly.
 
For me the best rpg houses are Runic Games, CD Projekt Red, Atlus, Mistwalker and Nippon Ichi. Followed closely by Vanillaware. Bioware and Square Enix are behemoths that live more from their credits with older games that with the recent ones.
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#44  Edited By Geno

Used to be Square, now I'm a BioWare convert. Though Super Mario RPG and FF Tactics will always have a spot in my heart. 

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#45  Edited By Cornman89

Maybe five years ago I would've said Square.
 
In 2010? Bioware.

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#46  Edited By ryanwho
@WinterSnowblind said:

" @ryanwho said:

" @VIGGO123 said:

" Bioware for me... I really don't like JRPGs "

Funny, people seem to like FF12's battle system more when its in Dragon Age. "
Dragon Age's battle system was more akin to Baldur's Gate, which was the whole point of DA..   "
No it doesn't. Have you played Baldur's Gate or is this just the talking point you take at face value? FF12's gambits are the foundation of Dragon Age's battle system, Baldur's Gate is about as primitive as Secret of Mana when it comes to action management and doesn't come even close to what DA is doing. Baldur's Gate is what they cited as one of many thematic inspirations, as well as George R R Martin(they came up really short in this regard).  I don't like this petty disregard for a game that Dragon Age devs freely admit to being inspired by. I'd take their word on it over yours, thanks. I'll also take my fucking eyeballs over your assumption.

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#47  Edited By mordukai

It's a matter of personal taste. 

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#48  Edited By CaptainObvious

I'm gonna say Square Enix for just one reason. The World Ends With You. I don't really like jrpgs, but this, whoah. 

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#49  Edited By angelfan91

I've played one Square RPG I liked, and that was Chrono Trigger.  The idea of Final Fantasy is boring to me.  Bioware has yet to create a game that I didn't enjoy.  Jade Empire, while somewhat lacking in the combat department, had a great story.  I think that was the first game I played through more than once.  Mass Effect still stands as my favorite game ever (until Tuesday).  I'm about 15 hours into Dragon Age: Origins and I love it.
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#50  Edited By xyzygy
@Video_Game_King said:
" Square. In fact, here's a present for BioWare:
 
 
Granted, I haven't played a single BioWare game, but THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M VOTING FOR SQUARE! "
I drudged through that whole game thinking it was going along so slow and everything was just so boring... until that fight. Then the game ended. So basically, if that fight wasn't in the game I would have hated it :P