Bobby Kotick on Wii U "Somewhat Disappointed"

Avatar image for damisterchief
DaMisterChief

612

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1  Edited By DaMisterChief
During the company's latest earnings call, Kotick was asked about the future of the money-printing Skylanders franchise, specifically about the breakdown of install bases between the existing consoles. He replied "we were somewhat disappointed with the launch of the Wii U. We're concerned about the install base for 6-11 year-olds".
Considering publishers are usually coy when making public statements about platform holders, that's a surprisingly blunt assessment of the console, albeit one that must be supported by numbers or...he wouldn't have said it.
from kotatsu

I know it really due to lack of nintendo games but is that all this console will be waiting for 1st party releases??? Oh wait that was the original wii. What is the point in buying it. If the COD juggernaut can not sell the millions it moves on other platforms whats up with that?

Avatar image for jz
JZ

2342

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2  Edited By JZ

Exactly why would 3rd party companies like a machine, that no one buys 3rd party games for?

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#3  Edited By Daveyo520

@DaMisterChief: Just waiting for first party releases is all Nintendo consoles have been for a long time.

Avatar image for ahgunsillyo
ahgunsillyo

509

Forum Posts

764

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

#4  Edited By ahgunsillyo

I'm not sure that anybody should really be surprised that Black Ops II didn't sell nearly as well on Wii U as it did on the other consoles considering that it came out on the other consoles before the Wii U was released, meaning that everybody who really wanted it had already bought the game on those other platforms. And given how focused on the multiplayer experience both the developers and fans of the Call of Duty franchise are, the people who buy the game were already going to be set on getting the game on the console on which they're already a part of the multiplayer ecosystem.

Let's face it: If they were already playing Call of Duty, even if they bought a Wii U, they weren't going to buy Call of Duty on the Wii U.

The point in buying a Wii U is for playing games that take advantage of the hardware and provide a unique and fun experience on it. Now, it just so happens that a lot of said games are first-party releases from Nintendo (which makes sense, really). However, games like ZombiU have shown that third-party developers can create games that accomplish such a task, but whether or not it's worth it to the makers of these kinds of games to have a best-selling game (or at least a critical hit) that sells exclusively on only one platform is a question that has been hovering over Nintendo consoles for a good long while now.

Avatar image for mcfart
Mcfart

2064

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

#5  Edited By Mcfart

@ahgunsillyo said:

I'm not sure that anybody should really be surprised that Black Ops II didn't sell nearly as well on Wii U as it did on the other consoles considering that it came out on the other consoles before the Wii U was released, meaning that everybody who really wanted it had already bought the game on those other platforms. And given how focused on the multiplayer experience both the developers and fans of the Call of Duty franchise are, the people who buy the game were already going to be set on getting the game on the console on which they're already a part of the multiplayer ecosystem.

Let's face it: If they were already playing Call of Duty, even if they bought a Wii U, they weren't going to buy Call of Duty on the Wii U.

The point in buying a Wii U is for playing games that take advantage of the hardware and provide a unique and fun experience on it. Now, it just so happens that a lot of said games are first-party releases from Nintendo (which makes sense, really). However, games like ZombiU have shown that third-party developers can create games that accomplish such a task, but whether or not it's worth it to the makers of these kinds of games to have a best-selling game (or at least a critical hit) that sells exclusively on only one platform is a question that has been hovering over Nintendo consoles for a good long while now.

Yup, this. 3rd parties got bitten when they budgeted for a Wii exclusive, then didn't see a return in sales. So naturally they're hesitent to make Wii U exclusives that may not sell (and they won't sell as much, since the install base is low atm)

Avatar image for slaegar
Slaegar

935

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6  Edited By Slaegar

"we were somewhat disappointed with the launch of the Wii U. We're concerned about the install base for 6-11 year-olds".
 
So the xbox 360 has more 6-11 year old players than the Wii U?
 
Actually, yeah, it probably does.

Avatar image for the_nubster
The_Nubster

5058

Forum Posts

21

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 1

#7  Edited By The_Nubster

@Slaegar said:

"we were somewhat disappointed with the launch of the Wii U. We're concerned about the install base for 6-11 year-olds". So the xbox 360 has more 6-11 year old players than the Wii U? Actually, yeah, it probably does.

With 7 years of time on the market, there's no doubt. WiiU is too late to the current-gen, and too early for the next. It's a first-party box again.

Avatar image for shadowmoses900
ShadowMoses900

255

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 52

User Lists: 0

#8  Edited By ShadowMoses900

I don't care what his opinion on the system is. I still think the Wii U is a good system, but it feels more like a current gen system than it does next gen.

Avatar image for video_game_king
Video_Game_King

36563

Forum Posts

59080

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 54

User Lists: 14

#9  Edited By Video_Game_King

@DaMisterChief said:

fromkotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

Avatar image for toowalrus
toowalrus

13408

Forum Posts

29

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

#10  Edited By toowalrus

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

Avatar image for toxin066
Toxin066

3590

Forum Posts

118

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#11  Edited By Toxin066

His honesty seems like a breath of fresh air.

Avatar image for kittyvondoom
KittyVonDoom

447

Forum Posts

117

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12  Edited By KittyVonDoom

*waits for all the anti-CoD bandwagon jumpers to all buy Wii U's in an effort to spite The Kotick*

Avatar image for evanbower
evanbower

1253

Forum Posts

221

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 9

#13  Edited By evanbower

@Toxin066 said:

His honesty seems like a breath of fresh air.

Yeah. Kotick talking money is the new poetry.

Avatar image for immortalsaiyan
ImmortalSaiyan

4788

Forum Posts

26

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 9

#15  Edited By ImmortalSaiyan

@TooWalrus said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

Aren't kotatsu's those heated blankets that attach to tables?

Avatar image for iamjohn
iamjohn

6300

Forum Posts

13905

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#16  Edited By iamjohn

Where are you people getting this shit about Call of Duty? Did you even read the story or even that specific quote that's right there in the OP? He's specifically talking about Skylander sales on Wii U, which makes perfect sense given that the advertising push behind Skylanders Giants has revolved primarily around selling the Wii, Wii U and 3DS versions.

Avatar image for wacomole
Wacomole

1194

Forum Posts

681

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#17  Edited By Wacomole

@ImmortalSaiyan said:

@TooWalrus said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

Aren't kotatsu's those heated blankets that attach to tables?

Coverage full of hot air that you only really need once in a while? Sounds spot on.

Avatar image for immortalsaiyan
ImmortalSaiyan

4788

Forum Posts

26

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 9

#18  Edited By ImmortalSaiyan

@MoleyUK said:

@ImmortalSaiyan said:

@TooWalrus said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

Aren't kotatsu's those heated blankets that attach to tables?

Coverage full of hot air that you only really need once in a while? Sounds spot on.

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#19  Edited By Daveyo520
@The_Nubster

@Slaegar said:

"we were somewhat disappointed with the launch of the Wii U. We're concerned about the install base for 6-11 year-olds". So the xbox 360 has more 6-11 year old players than the Wii U? Actually, yeah, it probably does.

With 7 years of time on the market, there's no doubt. WiiU is too late to the current-gen, and too early for the next. It's a first-party box again.

It is Nintendo's Dreamcast
Avatar image for ravenlight
Ravenlight

8057

Forum Posts

12306

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#20  Edited By Ravenlight

@TooWalrus said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

Agreed. I like how this is a thing now.

Avatar image for mr_antimatter
Mr_Antimatter

5

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21  Edited By Mr_Antimatter

If hes referring to skylanders, I think he may be spot on for now. The Wii was very popular with youngsters, even early on, but i'm not sure the Wii U is yet. It's very new, after all.

Avatar image for alekss
Alekss

357

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22  Edited By Alekss

@Daveyo520 said:

It is Nintendo's Dreamcast

dreamcast had good games...

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#23  Edited By Daveyo520
@Alekss And it kicked Sega out of the console market.
Avatar image for mildmolasses
MildMolasses

3200

Forum Posts

386

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 16

#24  Edited By MildMolasses

@Toxin066 said:

His honesty seems like a breath of fresh air.

I know the cool kids like to get on the Kotick hate train, but if they actually consider what his job is (ie. optimizing revenue and profits, not game design) he's pretty good at what he does. As such, he's going to tell investors what's what, and that is that it probably isn't worth their (Activision) investment to pursue heavy WiiU development. I don't like that being the current state of game development, but when these companies have to answer to shareholders, that's what happens.

Avatar image for iamjohn
iamjohn

6300

Forum Posts

13905

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#25  Edited By iamjohn

@Daveyo520 said:

@Alekss And it kicked Sega out of the console market.

If you think the Wii U and the Dreamcast are in any way comparable, you need to stop talking because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#26  Edited By Daveyo520
@iAmJohn They both play video games, that is one way you can compare them. They are also both things. They are both from Japan. They exist. There are tons of ways you can compare them.
Avatar image for jimmyfenix
jimmyfenix

3942

Forum Posts

20

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27  Edited By jimmyfenix

@TooWalrus said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

nanako wants her new kotatsu you guys

Avatar image for alekss
Alekss

357

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28  Edited By Alekss

@iAmJohn said:

@Daveyo520 said:

@Alekss And it kicked Sega out of the console market.

If you think the Wii U and the Dreamcast are in any way comparable, you need to stop talking because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Dreamcast had better games

Avatar image for iamjohn
iamjohn

6300

Forum Posts

13905

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#29  Edited By iamjohn

@Daveyo520 said:

@iAmJohn They both play video games, that is one way you can compare them. They are also both things. They are both from Japan. They exist. There are tons of ways you can compare them.

Cute, but you're ignoring the point that the situation Nintendo is in with the Wii U is in no way comparable to the situation Sega was in with the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast was a last-ditch effort to save the company that, even though the Dreamcast did well for its short lifetime, could have only succeeded if it did PS2 numbers. Nintendo is in no way in that situation, and to suggest that they are is completely disingenuous.

@Alekss said:

Dreamcast had better games

This I cannot argue with, nor will I ever be able to.

Avatar image for greggd
GreggD

4596

Forum Posts

981

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

#30  Edited By GreggD

@TooWalrus said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@DaMisterChief said:

from kotatsu

Kotaku, damn it!

I actually think kotatsu is way funnier.

Seiken Den Kotatsu

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#31  Edited By Daveyo520

@iAmJohn: Can it be their Saturn then?

Avatar image for iamjohn
iamjohn

6300

Forum Posts

13905

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#32  Edited By iamjohn

@Daveyo520 said:

@iAmJohn: Can it be their Saturn then?

It's already sold more than the Saturn did tho. :(

Well, in America at least.

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#33  Edited By Daveyo520

@iAmJohn: I am sure it also does 3D graphics better.

Avatar image for video_game_king
Video_Game_King

36563

Forum Posts

59080

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 54

User Lists: 14

#34  Edited By Video_Game_King

@Daveyo520 said:

@iAmJohn: Can it be their Saturn then?

Hell no. There's not as much ill will between the American and Japanese branches of Nintendo as there was for Sega.

Avatar image for nekroskop
Nekroskop

2830

Forum Posts

47

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#35  Edited By Nekroskop

The WiiU will get better games in the future, but will most likely be overshadowed by the PS4 or the Xbox420 when they come out this year/early next.

Avatar image for daveyo520
Daveyo520

7766

Forum Posts

624

Wiki Points

195

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 12

#36  Edited By Daveyo520

@Video_Game_King: And to think that Sega was founded by Americans.