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#1 Edited by Mystyr_E (1456 posts) -
http://kotaku.com/5743970/autistic-boy-branded-a-cheater-by-xbox-live
  
not even sure if he was actually cheating or not but....wow, Microsoft, really?
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#2 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4312 posts) -

fuck im too lazy to copy and paste the link...  explain?

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#3 Posted by Akeldama (4359 posts) -

Thats pretty disgusting. Nobody as MS could give her a straight answer? I suppose questionable business practices are MS's MO.

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#4 Posted by Chris2KLee (2402 posts) -
@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:
" fuck im too lazy to copy and paste the link...  explain? "
MS thinks he's a cheater, while his mother says his autism makes him extremely focused, and therefore very good at games. MS zeroed his score and labeled him cheater.
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#5 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6117 posts) -

DUDE...the kid has autism...wtf microsoft -.-

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#6 Posted by Kjellm87 (1735 posts) -

That was a new one...

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#7 Posted by ShaunassNZ (2233 posts) -
@Chris2KLee said:
" @the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:
" fuck im too lazy to copy and paste the link...  explain? "
MS thinks he's a cheater, while his mother says his autism makes him extremely focused, and therefore very good at games. MS zeroed his score and labeled him cheater. "
You could have just done this for him!
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#8 Posted by Mystyr_E (1456 posts) -
@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG: 
 
whoops, forgot this ain't like other sites where posting a link makes it clickable, gah
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#9 Posted by Th3dz (348 posts) -

Having autism doesn't make it impossible to cheat now does it? So why not wait for some confirmation on that before judging MS. They're not likely to do that kind of thing without a reason.

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#10 Posted by SuperWristBands (2281 posts) -

Whats to say he didn't do something to cheat? Hes 11, kids do stupid things.
 
To be fair I don't know MS policy on cheating. Do you need to hardware mod to be branded or can it be for simply exploiting? Either way, if the fault is on MS I bet we will see a lot more people become branded.

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#11 Posted by AlexW00d (7479 posts) -

Who the fuck cares? 
What if I cheated and then claimed I was autistic to Ms to get my shit back? 
They need to be completely strict regardless, else people will take advantage of such things.

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#12 Posted by SuperSambo (3099 posts) -

Bs. He cheated.

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#13 Posted by Hunkulese (4009 posts) -

The mom sounds crazy. 
 
I bet he cheated. They don't label you a cheater for having a high gamerscore.
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#14 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -

He probably cheated.

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#15 Posted by s7evn (1067 posts) -
@Th3dz said:
" Having autism doesn't make it impossible to cheat now does it? So why not wait for some confirmation on that before judging MS. They're not likely to do that kind of thing without a reason. "      
Microsoft most likely won't release any information on how they confirmed that he cheated which is why we'll never truly know if the boy did or not.
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#16 Edited by JJWeatherman (14929 posts) -
@SuperSambo said:

" Bs. He cheated. "

That was my thought after reading that article. 
 
I think it's kind of funny. Whether he actually cheated or not though, there are other means of online social interaction this kid can partake in if he absolutely refuses to leave the house.
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#17 Posted by ArchScabby (5877 posts) -

He probably did cheat.

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#18 Posted by Chris2KLee (2402 posts) -
@ShaunassNZ said:
" @Chris2KLee said:
" @the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:
" fuck im too lazy to copy and paste the link...  explain? "
MS thinks he's a cheater, while his mother says his autism makes him extremely focused, and therefore very good at games. MS zeroed his score and labeled him cheater. "
You could have just done this for him! "
That would take effort!
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#19 Posted by Three0neFive (2380 posts) -

implying the little shit didn't cheat 
 
"b-b-but my little snowflake is autistic, he couldn't have cheated because he's the bestest little angel!". no, fuck you lady. you have no proof besides your word - microsoft has hard evidence, otherwise they wouldn't have dared to take this measure.

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#20 Posted by ShaunassNZ (2233 posts) -
@Chris2KLee said:
" @ShaunassNZ said:
" @Chris2KLee said:
" @the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:
" fuck im too lazy to copy and paste the link...  explain? "
MS thinks he's a cheater, while his mother says his autism makes him extremely focused, and therefore very good at games. MS zeroed his score and labeled him cheater. "
You could have just done this for him! "
That would take effort! "
You just write a word, press a button and do copy and paste, easier than making a summary.
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#21 Posted by billyhoush (1264 posts) -

How do you cheat? I know people who have modded systems so they play tons of games and have lots of achievements but I have no idea how people cheat. Also, look at the amount of gunk built up on those controllers!

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#22 Posted by craigbo180 (1763 posts) -

If this is true and he just got banned because he was so good they could not conceive that anyone could be this amazing, then that's kind of a big compliment.

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#23 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4312 posts) -

wow i hate it how people freak out about this kind of news...  i mean microsoft wouldnt just accuse u of cheating just for a high gamerscore.  he probably "maxed" out  on all the achievments made.  like seriously though what does the fact that he's autistic have to do with anything?  i mean they could just talk about how its unfair treatment towards an 11 year old kid but noooooooo.  they have to point out that he has autism and the writer even includes a whole paragraph on what autism is.  this is why i hate journalism nowadays.  i guess its true that bad news does sell
 
 
@ShaunassNZ: and thank you for doing that for me

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#24 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

Meh, no need to get bent out of shape over a gamerscore.

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#25 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19836 posts) -
@billyhoush said:
" How do you cheat? I know people who have modded systems so they play tons of games and have lots of achievements but I have no idea how people cheat. Also, look at the amount of gunk built up on those controllers! "
I don't know, but my time playing Modern Warfare 2, on the 360, in the past definitely proves that there are cheaters.
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#26 Posted by billyhoush (1264 posts) -
@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:
" wow i hate it how people freak out about this kind of news...  i mean microsoft wouldnt just accuse u of cheating just for a high gamerscore.  he probably "maxed" out  on all the achievments made.  like seriously though what does the fact that he's autistic have to do with anything?  i mean they could just talk about how its unfair treatment towards an 11 year old kid but noooooooo.  they have to point out that he has autism and the writer even includes a whole paragraph on what autism is.  this is why i hate journalism nowadays.  i guess its true that bad news does sell "  
All stories are written with an angle. That's what makes them news worthy. Are you new to the media or under 25 years old?
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#27 Posted by Onno10 (394 posts) -

Oh noes not the gamerscore!

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#28 Posted by fwylo (3571 posts) -

Sad :(.

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#29 Posted by Pinworm45 (4069 posts) -
@Axxol said:
" Meh, no need to get bent out of shape over a gamerscore. "
Yeah, let's throw logic at a child who has a mental illness that prevents him from seeing everything in a logical point of view.
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#30 Posted by JTB123 (1217 posts) -

Anyone else notice the fact an 11 year old was playing Dead Rising and 50 cent was completely fine in that video? Pretty sure you have to be older than 11 to play those games...

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#31 Posted by beforet (3376 posts) -

Well, guess it's time for a PS3.

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#32 Posted by Fontan (319 posts) -

I have a friend whose PS3 controller is dirtier than that. Really. Much, much dirtier. 
 
A piece of me dies whenever I see it.

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#33 Posted by xyzygy (10595 posts) -

What if he actually did cheat and he gets away with it just because he's autistic?

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#34 Edited by WinterSnowblind (7598 posts) -

Like many people on Kotaku said..  I think it's best to wait for MS to officially respond to this.  Obviously MS customer support is going to have no clue about the workings of banning systems, but from what I understand they have a fairly complex system to determine whether or not somebody has cheated and it can only ban someone if they earn an unrealistic amount of achievements in a small time frame..  Like unlocking 1000/1000 in under a minute.  The situation reminds me of when Reach came out and people on the boards were kicking and screaming about how they "never did anything wrong".  When Bungie employee's personally checked the logging system to make sure it wasn't accidental..  it turned out they were cheating liars. 
 
Wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be a similar situation.  But even if it's not and it turns out this kid is some kind of gaming god, I still don't see how Microsoft are to blame.  It's not like they could have known, and I don't think marking his profile as "autistic player" is much of a solution to the problem.  At most, this just shows a lack of communication between MS and their customer support. 
 
And as someone who works at the citizen's advice bureau, I can't say I've ever dealt with a helpful customer support line.

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#35 Posted by StaticFalconar (4918 posts) -
@Mystyr_E: If he's really that good, shouldn't he be playing SC2 for money?
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#36 Posted by keyhunter (3208 posts) -
@Mystyr_E:  They must've had a legit reason. I've made gamerscore gains of 7000 in a period of 24 hr's. And I've modded my borderlands savegame to complete quests that were bugged and otherwise un-completable for achievements.
And I got banned by Bungie from Halo 3 for "speaking italian" which is by all means, cheating. So this kid must've been up to some shady shit to have that happen.
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#37 Posted by KarlPilkington (2810 posts) -

God these cheating autistic kids, they're fucking everywhere.

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#38 Posted by Meteora (5844 posts) -

Autistic kids tend to excel in a particular field of area and do VERY well at it, so its no surprise that some will be very good at games.

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#39 Edited by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

I like how they call just sitting there and shooting people online all day his only form of "social interaction". Just go on Omegle or something. 

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#40 Posted by Rebirth1337 (849 posts) -
@Hunkulese said:
" The mom sounds crazy.  I bet he cheated. They don't label you a cheater for having a high gamerscore. "
Yeah I have a kind of high gamerscore and they don't tag me as a cheater. I also have someone on my friends list with about 100k but he doesn't cheat either. 
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#41 Posted by drgrumbles (231 posts) -

OH  Noes not my gamer score that means nothing..   
The only 0 out your score if they think you have manipulated it.
Make a new account and get over it if you dont want the cheater tag.

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#42 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5726 posts) -
@JTB123 said:
" Anyone else notice the fact an 11 year old was playing Dead Rising and 50 cent was completely fine in that video? Pretty sure you have to be older than 11 to play those games... "
No, you don't. There are plenty of 11-year-olds that are able to handle games like that just fine.
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#43 Posted by WickedCestus (3781 posts) -

That seems fair. It's their system after all, and it's not like he's losing that much.

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#44 Posted by iam3green (14368 posts) -

pretty crazy man. i don't know what to think about it. microsoft does have ways to tell if you cheated or not.

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#45 Posted by NickyDubz (351 posts) -

Does anyone else find it funny that his mother who's worried about his lack of social skills is allowing him to play 50 cent blood in the sand? I guess its not my prerogative to raise her child but come on lady....ole jack thompson would have a field day with that, probably citing the violence caused his autism....ok I'm getting off the point just found it funny.  
 
Microsoft cannot be blamed for this......they have a strict set of rules that must be followed... its like if u are counting cards in Vegas they can kick you out and declare u a cheater autism or not its a private company trying to guilt them in to changing there rules is not the way to deal with it. if kids are harassing him turn off his voice chat its not like thats the kind of social interaction he needs unless he needs to hear racist and homophobic comments again and again

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#46 Posted by Extreme_Popcorn (846 posts) -
@Vito_Raliffe said:
" @JTB123 said:
" Anyone else notice the fact an 11 year old was playing Dead Rising and 50 cent was completely fine in that video? Pretty sure you have to be older than 11 to play those games... "
No, you don't. There are plenty of 11-year-olds that are able to handle games like that just fine. "
I'm pretty sure his point was that they are both 18 rated games and he shouldn't be playing them because of the content of the games not the skill needed to play them. 
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#47 Posted by JeanLuc (3882 posts) -

 Just because he's autistic doesn't mean he isn't capable of cheating. My mom works with autistic kids at a middle school and she tells me stories about how some of them try stealing, cheating, and lying to get what they want because they don't know any better. 
 I'm curious what prove Microsoft has of his cheating. Normal they ban for getting achievements using outside help, not a high gamerscore.
 
Also why is that kid playing rated M games? Even if his only friend is his Xbox 360, thats still bad parenting.

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#48 Posted by endless_void (731 posts) -

Poor kid, to have such a lousy mother. ''He's lonely and has no friends'' Maybe she could help him out to make some? Bad parenting at its best.

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#49 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5726 posts) -
@Buck_Sexington: I wasn't talking about skill whatsoever. There's no law or anything saying you have to be a certain age to play a game. Many people under the age of 17 are able to handle the content of M-rated video games because, like most people, they know the difference between a video game and reality. It's up to the kid's parent/guardian to discern whether or not the kid is able to handle content like that, and most kids can. I would have missed out on a lot of great games if I didn't play M-rated games when I was around this kid's age. 
 
JTB said, "  Pretty sure you have to be older than 11 to play those games...  ", and I was simply saying that isn't the case. You don't have to be any specific age to play an M-rated game.
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#50 Posted by GreggD (4595 posts) -
@wasteguru said:
"  Just because he's autistic doesn't mean he isn't capable of cheating. My mom works with autistic kids at a middle school and she tells me stories about how some of them try stealing, cheating, and lying to get what they want because they don't know any better.  "
Exactly. I have Asperger's Syndrome and I can safely say I've cheated and lied a ton in my life. Now that I'm in my mid-20's, I see the faults in that kind of behavior, so I don't do it anymore, outside of reason. This kid probably did hack his account to raise his gamerscore. Hell, someone probably was talking about it in one of the games he was playing online, and he got the idea to do it from them.