@Iodine said:
@Branthog said:
@Iodine said:
@Branthog said:
Cartoons from our childhood were shit. They were half hour long advertisements for toys (and were even slotted as such in program scheduling). Transformers and He-Man and GI JOE were fine when I was five years old and too stupid to realize how truly horrible the shows were and what their real point for existing was, but I'm a grown ass fucking man now and the last thing I give a fuck about is having the stupidest parts of my childhood pimped back to me as something I'm supposed to be nostalgic over. I'm certainly not going to pay to play crappy games based on crappy cartoons meant to entertain a toddler three decades ago.
It is beyond my comprehension that, for example, Transformers based games are selling for $60 in an age where the only people old enough to remember then are in their late thirties and forties. I mean, who are these people clamoring for this crap? I generally feel the same way about Star Wars, but at least that is still watchable and is (okay, arguably, I guess) not aimed at five year olds.
Tell me what Johnny Bravo was an ad for besides mace and I will listen to you
I've never heard of Johnny Bravo before, but Wikipedia says it was a cartoon from '97 to the early 00's and were for the Cartoon Network. That's not the same thing. Back when we were kids, cartoons were all Saturday-morning-long and all afternoon after school. And they were all oriented to marketing action figures and various other toys (also into the 90s and probably even today, frankly). The animated GI JOE series, for example, was basically paid advertising to sell Hasbro's action figures. The same goes for Autobots, Transformers, My Little Ponies, Strawberry Shortcake, He-Man, Thundercats and countless others. They were really awful (try watching them, today -- it's like trying to watch an episode of Knight Rider, but worse). Today, a lot of cartoons are made for the sake of pure entertainment and programming. In the late 70s and 80s, cartoons were marketing vehicles to sell really stupid toys to children. I'm sure there were some exceptions, but I can't think of many. This wasn't a time of "hey, let's make a neat toy based on this cartoon". It was the time of "hey, let's make a new line of toys and market them with these shitty cartoons that five year old kids are too dumb to question".
Which, I guess, is fine. But why grown-adults would want to play video games based on shitty cartoons like that from thirty years ago is beyond me. I mean, yeah, I liked Transformers in the early 80s. He-Man, too. But I was a little kid and didn't know any better. I thought checkers was fun, when I was five, too.
Oh yeah all that stuff is a giant ad for toys, I agree, I forgot we are not all the same age.
I don't think it's any different today, either. Cartoons are still generally a vehicle to advertise for shitty toys. A least, the cartoons aimed at kids with only a few exceptions (like Scooby Doo back in the 70s or whenever that was around, which I don't think was marketing any toys but was still dumb). I mean, that's what the entire Pokemon and Power Rangers stuff is about, I think.
But unlike the 70s and 80s, we now also have cartoons that exist just for their own sake and are often aimed at adults. Or, at least, at both kids and adults (like a number of things on Cartoon Network). But those aren't the things games are being made about. We just get shitty games for shitty cartoons that -- in the first place -- were just shitty advertisements for shitty toys. And it's all aimed at thirty and forty year olds. At least, I think they are? I mean, do little kids today know what a Thundercat or Transformer or He-Man is?! And do grown-ass men really want to play these crappy games and care about these crappy franchises? I mean, they must, apparently, but . . .
Maybe there are some games made on unrelated cartoon franchises, but I wouldn't know about them. Maybe someone will mention a few. I tend to think that children's cartoons (which is what the original post was asking us about) are just too simple and too dumb to offer enough to make any sort of interesting game out of, unless you're just using the cartoon's assets to make something like a shmup, maybe.
And anything really interesting would probably be off the table. Like the Sesame Street Heavy Rain-style murder mystery/crime investigation I always wanted to play.
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