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#1  Edited By kortex

I really emjoyed the the chat during and after BLLSL. It seems the chat has finally gone offline. My question is: why?
I think a chat section would be great addition to GB.

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#2  Edited By LumpOfCole

For members perhaps? :)

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#3  Edited By Heartagram
@LumpOfCole: Oh god don't even mention member exclusive stuff. People will flip!
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#4  Edited By hockeymask27

Most likely they are working out more kinks. 

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#5  Edited By zanzibarbreeze

Damn. I actually thought it was going to be up forever. Oh well.
 
I know Dave was talking about maybe integrating it somewhere else on the site, like in a chatbox on the front page or something, but it seems to me that that would be too messy.
 
On the other hand, make it public and you'll have hundreds of users in there and it'll be nowhere near cogent enough, like during TNT and the BLLSL.

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#6  Edited By Vinny_Says
@kortex: I want that medal...in real life
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#7  Edited By BraveToaster

There's really no need for chat.

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#8  Edited By williamrlbaker
@Heartagram said:
" @LumpOfCole: Oh god don't even mention member exclusive stuff. People will flip! "
if its true, I'll officially leave giantbomb and whiskey media sites forever. thats crossing the line a little.
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#9  Edited By kortex
@blacklabeldomm: For an anual fee of only 49.95$ it's yours.
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#10  Edited By JJOR64
@Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
True that, well, for live events it's alright.
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#11  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@ZanzibarBreeze said:
" Damn. I actually thought it was going to be up forever. Oh well.  I know Dave was talking about maybe integrating it somewhere else on the site, like in a chatbox on the front page or something, but it seems to me that that would be too messy.  On the other hand, make it public and you'll have hundreds of users in there and it'll be nowhere near cogent enough, like during TNT and the BLLSL. "
They could have a public chat and a members only chat 
 
or something like facebook chat where it's similar to istant messages appearing at the bottom of the screen.
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#12  Edited By williamrlbaker
@JJOR64 said:
" @Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
True that, well, for live events it's alright. "
I allways love people whom make this silly statement.
theres really no need for it....which in translation, I don't use it  or dont think its needed so every one shouldn't think its needed.
 
In reality its needed because people want it, the chat for near 2 days before live live was bustling with people and good conversation, and for a day after live live it was the same. People want it. obviously its needed.
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#13  Edited By rjaylee

While I think the chat was also fun, I didn't find it particularly good when member counts reached far too high due to the large volume of messages, even with larger global cooldowns. I had a much, much better experience int he Screened chat room when the member count hovered around 300-500 people though... but it's not realistic to obviously enforce limits on headcounts like that.

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#14  Edited By Vinny_Says
@kortex said:
" @blacklabeldomm: For an anual fee of only 49.95$ it's yours. "
do they send me an envelope so I can send it back when my subscription expires?
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#15  Edited By NZV

On a semi-related subject, having the chat way under the video was a bit of a pain. I had to scroll all the way down to see it, to the point where I couldn't see the video anymore. So the options were either video, chat, or the bottom half the video and the top 3 lines of chat. An option to have it on the side and maybe smaller seems a lot more convenient.

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#16  Edited By kortex
@LumpOfCole:  I thought the same for a sec but then I repressed this idea as quickly as possible, even I plan to subscribe as soon as paypal is a billing option.
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#18  Edited By BraveToaster
@williamrlbaker said:
" @JJOR64 said:
" @Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
True that, well, for live events it's alright. "
I allways love people whom make this silly statement. theres really no need for it....which in translation, I don't use it  or dont think its needed so every one shouldn't think its needed.  In reality its needed because people want it, the chat for near 2 days before live live was bustling with people and good conversation, and for a day after live live it was the same. People want it. obviously its needed. "
So wanting something also means you need it. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. What the hell was I thinking? I should just agree with everyone else.
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#19  Edited By kortex
@blacklabeldomm:  Actually, they will self-destruct the day your subscription expires causing a giant mushroom cloud.
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@Axxol said:
" @williamrlbaker said:
" @JJOR64 said:
" @Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
True that, well, for live events it's alright. "
I allways love people whom make this silly statement. theres really no need for it....which in translation, I don't use it  or dont think its needed so every one shouldn't think its needed.  In reality its needed because people want it, the chat for near 2 days before live live was bustling with people and good conversation, and for a day after live live it was the same. People want it. obviously its needed. "
So wanting something also means you need it. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. What the hell was I thinking? I should just agree with everyone else. "
Dude, thinking for yourself is so uncool.  Get with the damn program.
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#21  Edited By MaddProdigy
@kortex:  That's a sweet ass custom medal man.
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#22  Edited By reddin

I really enjoyed the chat during the time in between the TNT and the BALLS. I'm not that much of a forum dweller, and it was nice to have it open and have a glance at it in between missions/levels/whatever.
Shame they pulled it offline, and I hope to see it back at some point.

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#23  Edited By BraveToaster
@InfamousBIG said:
" @Axxol said:
" @williamrlbaker said:
" @JJOR64 said:
" @Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
True that, well, for live events it's alright. "
I allways love people whom make this silly statement. theres really no need for it....which in translation, I don't use it  or dont think its needed so every one shouldn't think its needed.  In reality its needed because people want it, the chat for near 2 days before live live was bustling with people and good conversation, and for a day after live live it was the same. People want it. obviously its needed. "
So wanting something also means you need it. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. What the hell was I thinking? I should just agree with everyone else. "
Dude, thinking for yourself is so uncool.  Get with the damn program. "
Yeah bro, I should totally hop on the bandwagon. Shame on me for having an opinion; I am now a puppet!
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#24  Edited By kortex
@NZV:  Or maybe as an transparent overlay on the lower third of the video.
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#25  Edited By natetodamax

You enjoyed the GB chat during the Big Live Live Show? Wow.

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#26  Edited By williamrlbaker
@InfamousBIG said:
" @Axxol said:
" @williamrlbaker said:
" @JJOR64 said:
" @Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
True that, well, for live events it's alright. "
I allways love people whom make this silly statement. theres really no need for it....which in translation, I don't use it  or dont think its needed so every one shouldn't think its needed.  In reality its needed because people want it, the chat for near 2 days before live live was bustling with people and good conversation, and for a day after live live it was the same. People want it. obviously its needed. "
So wanting something also means you need it. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. What the hell was I thinking? I should just agree with everyone else. "
Dude, thinking for yourself is so uncool.  Get with the damn program. "
 
we have 2 scenarios here.
We have its not needed said without any logical reason for it not being needed. We have a forum? wow there are countless other sites out there with forums and they have...TA DA chat rooms. 
 
We have a chat room for 3-4 days and for 3-4 days its filled with people chatting it up, lively conversation, fun conversation, intelligent conversation. and most of it was without the live live show, just people going to giantbomb.com/chat and chatting it up.  People want it, there is a desire for it, therefor its needed it completes the site, it offers a place for people to instantly reply to each other instead of browsing a forum, finding a conversation, saying something and hoping someone possibly answers within a few minutes if not longer. 
*one can desire food, and since food is needed...the same can be said of a chat room, it gives people a place to chill, and obviously the people on giantbomb and whiskeymedia can do chat rooms*
 
we have 1 point and another point.
1 point is its not needed.
Another point is it is needed.
 
Just because one says its not needed doesn't make it so, and just cause one says its needed doesn't make it so.
but with the chat being actively used for 3 days without the live live show...seems to me quite a few people want it, It was fun.
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#27  Edited By crusader8463

They would have to make rooms, private rooms and groups or else it would just be spam like it is during live events.

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#28  Edited By karneh
@LumpOfCole: 
 
Aren't we all members- OH WAIT
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#29  Edited By kortex
@Axxol:  It's cool you dont need or want it. but could it harm your gb-experience if there would be a chat? you dont have to use it. i guess.
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#30  Edited By kortex
@crusader8463:  I bet the Snide could pull it off.
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I am basing this off absolutely nothing, but: 
 
Keeping the chat = Less people posting on the site, which means less search engine results, and less people clicking around on Giant Bomb, which means less ads being seen/clicked. 
 
Again, based off of nothing. The truth lies with the engineers.

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#32  Edited By crusader8463
@kortex:  Me too, just saying that it might be a lot of work to add something as simple sounding as chat into the site well.
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#33  Edited By JJWeatherman

The chat is a waste of bandwidth when nothing is going on.

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#34  Edited By Aetos
@natetodamax said:
" You enjoyed the GB chat during the Big Live Live Show? Wow. "
Yeah, it wasn't that great. To many people people freaking out about Sara. Kinda creepy.
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#35  Edited By ch13696
@kortex said:
" I really emjoyed the the chat during and after BLLSL. It seems the chat has finally gone offline. My question is: why? I think a chat section would be great addition to GB. "
What? Sorry, I wasn't listening. I got lost in the shininess of the medal.
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#36  Edited By kortex
@JJWeatherman:  when there is nothing going on, the bandwith shouldnt be affected. right?
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#37  Edited By JJWeatherman
@kortex said:
" @JJWeatherman:  when there is nothing going on, the bandwith shouldnt be affected. right? "
I dunno. I'm no expert. Seems like it would cost them something just to keep a chat running. Maybe not a lot. Dunno.
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#38  Edited By kortex
@Tactical_Kill:  that was kreepy. but i dont think this would become a regular problem. at least here at gb. except when vinny is on camera :)
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#39  Edited By reddin
@JJWeatherman: It actually seemed like more of a waste when there was something going on..
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#40  Edited By Phished0ne

I never saw anything i would call "intelligent/interesting conversation" in the GB chat.  But hey, to each his/her own, if people want to endure that, more power to them.

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#41  Edited By LumpOfCole

Chat was extremely buggy for the last couple of days, probably because of the severe overcrowding from the Live show. It's probably just getting repaired and all that.

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#42  Edited By MichaelBach

They will probably make a better one with more features that will be used during the coming weekly live shows.

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#43  Edited By Hector
@Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
Yeah..we have the forums.
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#44  Edited By commandercup
@Hector said:
" @Axxol said:
" There's really no need for chat. "
Yeah..we have the forums. "
A chat is a whole different beast. I think having a chat is a great idea (I was actually creating a new thread when I found this one) since it'll help clear out some of the clutter on the forums of duplicate threads created by newer members or people in general complaining about things as they don't need to create new threads for their rants or basic questions. At the same time, a chat is a much more personal way to talk and it's a whole lot easier to have discussions with people in a less formal way. Plus a chat is a great place for small talk and general chit chat.
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#45  Edited By Synthballs

Isn't their an IRC chatroom?

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#46  Edited By Branthog

Frankly, I don't like the full-time chat idea. It detracts from meaningful and thoughtful conversation and often turns into just another hassle that has to be monitored, moderated, maintained, and leads to lots of infighting when people misunderstand each other. I ran a site about the size of Giant Bomb and those were some of the reasons I never implemented IRC or chat of any type for twelve years and why I refused to endorse the "unaffiliated" community constructed IRC/chat options that popped up for it. And what happened? Within days, it became a hassle and people who got along fine in forums were mortal enemies as a result of chat. And it became another thing to constantly monitor and moderate.
 
I think it's great for special events, but I don't really see a need for it otherwise (and I did spend a lot of time in the chat the last day and a half).
 
Besides, isn't there already #giantbomb on IRC somewhere? There must be.

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#47  Edited By commandercup
@Branthog said:
" Frankly, I don't like the full-time chat idea. It detracts from meaningful and thoughtful conversation and often turns into just another hassle that has to be monitored, moderated, maintained, and leads to lots of infighting when people misunderstand each other. I ran a site about the size of Giant Bomb and those were some of the reasons I never implemented IRC or chat of any type for twelve years and why I refused to endorse the "unaffiliated" community constructed IRC/chat options that popped up for it. And what happened? Within days, it became a hassle and people who got along fine in forums were mortal enemies as a result of chat. And it became another thing to constantly monitor and moderate.  I think it's great for special events, but I don't really see a need for it otherwise (and I did spend a lot of time in the chat the last day and a half).  Besides, isn't there already #giantbomb on IRC somewhere? There must be. "
That can be true, but with proper moderation (I'm sure there are more than a few community members who'd be willing to moderate a chat) it shouldn't be a problem. A forum I used to frequent (overclock.net) had a chat for quite a long time and they had no real problems.
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#48  Edited By Mrnitropb

After getting nauseous from watching chat flying off the screen with 10K plus users, no I am happy to never use it again.

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#49  Edited By Jost1

The chat was super fun, what up my chat peeps

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#50  Edited By m1k3

they should put a chatroom for matchmaking. maybe like 'giantbomb.com/matchmaking' then you select a game and enter that chat room.