not particularly. I find their machines are overpriced and they don't hold the operating system majority so a lot of software doesn't work on them without emulation.
Don't really feel either way about Apple... the line between Mac and PC keeps getting thinner and, while beautiful, Apple products are a bit too over-priced/over-hyped for what I feel you get.
Yes Macs suck for games, don't buy them for games! I have a macbook pro, i love it, if you don't love it buy one of the million other laptops out there. Don't like iphone? get one of the billion other smartphones on/coming onto the market.
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Their monopoly on the industry, however, disgusts me. And they don't give a shit about warranties either. "Get your iPhone just slightly wet in the rain? Well fuck you, buy another one you rich motherfucker!" "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Smartphone_share_2009_full.png 15% of the smartphone market is apple, that is not a monopoly
itunes, ipod, iphone are all products that expanded the markets they moved into and created the space needed to create interest in the area (anyone who disagrees should take this point up with Ivan Seidenberg the CEO of Verizon who said on Charlie Rose he was glad the iphone existed because of how it grew interest in the smart phone market (google Charlie Rose Ivan Seidenberg).
OSX is by far my favorite OS.... that's about as far as my love of Apple goes though. I think their overarching corporate strategy is downright wrong. When I buy a computer or a smart phone, I want a piece of hardware to do with as I please, not a sealed device with which to exercise my Terms of Use Agreement.
Edit- I should say, for full disclosure's sake, that I'm writing this from a Mac and that I'm probably going to buy another one. I'm a hypocrite.
I dont like them because everything is extremely overpriced. There is litterally no reason to buy any of their products except for the iphone, and even that is about to come to an end. Other smart phones are quickly catching up.
I don't like Apple, because no one can convince me to buy one. I have tried very hard to see the allure of the Apple computer and nothing has edged me over into buying one.
apple messed up podcasts, they confused ppl with their dumb proprietary version of rss and their terrible directory full of old media crap. Also, the Mac vs. PC ads let me know that the hipster, smug, self-important mac attitude was actually the official mac attitude. I think at that point they lost me forever.
" not particularly. I find their machines are overpriced and they don't hold the operating system majority so a lot of software doesn't work on them without emulation. "
Well said. I agree.
Macs just don't meet my needs in computers, which generally involve high tech hardware (in the computer) and video games that I enjoy playing. Mac is in no way in control of the gaming market and don't tell me about their app store with all it's great games. Please.
" I appreciate the fact that Apple have made music downloads accessible and computers that even retards can operate, but it makes my skin cringe every time I hear one of the execs open their mouth. Shit like this:
It's the fact they act like a goddamn cult. You can just imagine the crowd hi-fiving each other as well. Their monopoly on the industry, however, disgusts me. And they don't give a shit about warranties either. "Get your iPhone just slightly wet in the rain? Well fuck you, buy another one you rich motherfucker!" "
As a PC person I don't hate Apple per se, I mean they have made some impressive products and I still plan to get an iPod Touch. Just as a personal preference I prefer PCs and Creative's MP3 players. I just want the Touch for the aps
As a business, yes. However I believe that their products generally leave something to be desired. Macintosh computers are okay, but ipods kinda really suck. At least, the ones with the spin wheel do.
Meh. I don't really like Apple. Whenever I meet someone who proclaims proudly that they are a Mac user, I am baffled and disgusted by their attitude. Apple fanboys royally piss me off for being elitists and think all Apple products are superior and that there are simply no other alternatives. That's only for the fanbase alone.
Now, for Apple itself as a company, I still don't like them. They seem to have a very tight control over their products. I can't recall, but I think that its impossible to install a Windows OS on a Mac computer? And there's that closed source thing for iPhones over apps. Also their prices are quite demanding and too pricey for my tastes.
I'll just stick with Windows products. At least Microsoft is starting to do some quality control now that they are starting to have some competition, which is a good thing for all of us.
Well, my one experience with an Apple product was not extremely pleasant. I've owned one Apple product in my life, and that was an iPod Nano 4G. You know, the current one, but without the camera. While I didn't like the product, it was my first MP3 Player. Anyway, Apple, as a company, are a bit too like a cult for my liking. Their products are nice, but the prices they expect for them are not. The iMac is a beautiful looking machine, but I could not afford to purchase such a thing. I have never used Mac OS X, but I have heard good things about it. It's meant to be an ideal OS, but then we have the inescapable conclusion: for such a good OS, it needs to be welcome on any machine. But you can't legally install OS X on a non-Apple machine, because of their ridiculous End User License Agreement. Jobs complained that Flash was not open enough, and he completely glosses over the fact OS X is just as closed as Flash.
Then we have the MP3 Players. Apple are a monopoly in this field of their market. The majority of the MP3 Players sold are iPods. So the majority of people are willing to use iTunes, which is bloated and clunky. Despite this I use it too. Owing to the sheer popularity of the iPod, how often do you hear someone buy an 'MP3 Player'? It's always an iPod they're buying, regardless of whether it is an iPod or not. Apple run a monopoly in this area, and then they restrict you heavily with their iTunes Stores. Want free apps for your iPod Touch or iPhone? Make an account and download them for free! Unfortunately, you need a credit card to actually make use of this. Because I haven't found a way to make an iTunes account without such a thing.
Despite everything I have written above, I want an iMac. And I am hoping to get an iPod Touch. Apple just has some ability that way. That when you're done ranting, you'll want one of their products.
Running the Giant Bomb Experience on a BlackBook, and receive post emails through the iPhone. I enjoy it all, except for the short battery life of the iPhone.
Oh, and I think Apps are, for the large part, a huge waste of time.
Their products? I LOOOOVE my iPod and my iPhone. I HATE iTunes with a fiery burning passion. Their computers I dislike intensely as well, but can see the advantages if you have one of a few specific job types (certain types of design, publishing, art, etc)
Their fans? Their fans downright make me sick, not only do they seem to think that they automatically have a better computer than you simply because it is a mac (completely untrue, complete and utter bollocks) but they are intent on rubbing your face in it (which only serves to make them look stupid, because Macs are only good for specific jobs, you want an all rounder, then a regular PC kicks the crap out of them). Hardcore Apple fans, every single one i've ever known (ok, so maybe not all the ones in existence) i've wanted to punch in the face.
I love my MacBook, it's perfect for what I need, and I have for a PC for the more powerful things I need, i.e - a dedicated rendering machine. Best of both worlds. I HATE apple fanboys though. They are total dicks.
i like apple as a company. the way they have marketed there products and and keep something new on shelves throughout the year. but the apple products i am not a big fan of even though i own an iPhone. the apps on it truly are amazing
Overall, I don't like their walled garden, lock-in focused business model. I do, however, think that the iPhone (OS and hardware) is a quality product and will enjoy mine until I can pick up an EVO 4g whenever Sprint launches it. I also think they're doomed to repeat their mistakes from the 80's, in which they were extremely successful but watched all of their various market shares evaporate because they obtusely focused on their vision rather than what their customers wanted (even trivial things, like Flash support on the iPhone OS, they refuse to provide and offer inept reasoning against - when the real reason is because Adobe's business philosophy of "write once and deploy on multiple platforms", among other things, conflicts with theirs).
There's also no good reason for their computers and laptops to be so expensive, in my opinion.
" yea the I-pod is amazing . And apple computers are the industry standard for editing so i have to like them haha xD "
Editing is really all about the software - I can't think of any OS X-exclusive application or suite that's dominant for any media editing format. Their hardware is now the same architecture that runs Windows and GNU/Linux as well. They do make a mean UI though, so if that somehow subjectively elevates your experience and productivity while editing, then I can see why you would think that way.
Personally, whether I use Photoshop on Windows or a Mac, it operates the same way. I just have one mouse button on the Mac in the office. And it's a bit slower getting around because I'm so accustomed to Windows hotkeys and Explorer.
" yea the I-pod is amazing . And apple computers are the industry standard for editing so i have to like them haha xD "
Editing is really all about the software - I can't think of any OS X-exclusive application or suite that's dominant for any media editing format. Their hardware is now the same architecture that runs Windows and GNU/Linux as well. They do make a mean UI though, so if that somehow subjectively elevates your experience and productivity while editing, then I can see why you would think that way. Personally, whether I use Photoshop on Windows or a Mac, it operates the same way. I just have one mouse button on the Mac in the office. And it's a bit slower getting around because I'm so accustomed to Windows hotkeys and Explorer. "
Still the BBC in England have replaced all their avid suites with final cut . Its about £1500 cheaper but produces the same results ..if not better . And btw i prefer Adobe Premier pro cs4 haha . i was mainly talking about video editing btw . Photoshop will always be the best for images
Apple has served me very well over the last 8 years. I honestly believe that if I had to persist with Windows based computers, I would not be on the internet right now - it is that awful to me. If it wasn't for games, I wouldn't even have Windows on my iMac and Macbook - it gets no other use.
I don't have anything particularly against them, but PCs can still do a few things that Mac can't so I stick with PCs for now. I've actually been contemplating finally getting an iPod, but I'll wait till June to see if they unveil a new line with their new iPhone.
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