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#1  Edited By hencook

Jeff says-

The Saboteur Quick Look- "You know I appreciate naked lady action whenever I can get it, but I don't know if I need it in my video games."

Soul Calibur 4 Video Review- "I don't want you to get the wrong impression on me, and think that I only like explosions.  I Like Boobs. There, I said it, I hate to be the controversial one.Boobs are awesome, but there's a limit. There's a line. Ivy is over this line. It's too... it looks wrong, I don't like looking at her, and it's creepy looking."

Jeff makes it a part of his criticism of the game, and I would say the breasts had a major factor in his _3_STAR_ review of Soul Calibur 4.

It seems that Jeff would impose his extremely personal beliefs into a game review. What if Jeff hated Nazi Killing? Would it be correct for him to lower scores on games with Nazi Killing? Why doesn't Jeff lower scores on games that feature Lolicon (extremely young) girls in the game? Did Jeff notice that Soul Calibur 4 has a young 16 year old girl named Amy, that STRIPS when she takes enough guard damage? What's more wrong, a young girl stripping, or a lady with big tits stripping in the same game?


Open Letter to Jeff-

There's a lesson to learn here, Jeff. You said it yourself, the Star Wars characters were a quick cash in. It's true, SC4 has a bunch of different characters that don't really make sense to be fighting. A 16 year old girl. A woman with huge tits in a bikini. AN ALIEN. Here's two points to consider-

1. It's Fantasy. Go back to MMA games if you want JUST GUYS duking it out.

2. It's what people want. I've played SC4 with a lot of people, and some guys go straight for the Amy, the Ivy, and the Yoda. Just like the designer who made Ivy, there's someone out there that appreciates tits much more than you pretend to, Jeff. Strong Production Values and Game Mechanics should be subject to review, not personal tastes. Sex Sells because People Like Sex.

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#2  Edited By JJOR64

I LIKE BOOBS!

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#3  Edited By MysteriousBob

You know what? 
 
He was joking. Ivy's boobs were pretty damn freaky.

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#4  Edited By ryanwho

I think what he's saying is there's a context for everything and most of the time, in videogames, the context is "guys will be playing this game and guys like boobs put in boobs!" which isn't a very good reason to put them in. He probably has no problem with the nudity in Heavy Rain because it has an actual context and isn't just fanservice for manboys.

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#5  Edited By CL60

What?...

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#6  Edited By Jayzilla

i think the criticism is over why there has to be virtual lady parts in a video game. i think he was pretty clear that he loves the real deal, but i am with him. 13 year olds and immature adults get turned on by this sort of thing and its kinda creepy. It's not kinda creepy actually, it's all the way, full blown creepy.

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#7  Edited By KaosAngel
@hencook said:

" A 16 year old girl. A woman with huge tits in a bikini. AN ALIEN. "

Who the hell is an alien in SC4?
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#8  Edited By toowalrus

Yes, Ivy wasn't a big deal in Soul Calibur IV. I don't think Jeff hates boobs, but he definitly hates virtual boobs (which I can't fault him for). In my opinion though, Soul Calibur IV was more than a 3-star game. (like, 4-stars).
 
EDIT: Ivy's boobs aren't boobs, they're computer programing.

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#9  Edited By Afroman269

Why did you contradict yourself because he did say that he likes boobs. I agree with him that there is a limit to boob size. Good job in ending your own thread in that one paragraph.

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#10  Edited By rjaylee

I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur?
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#11  Edited By VWGTI

Jeff hates everything. Duh.

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#12  Edited By hencook
@KaosAngel said:
" @hencook said:

" A 16 year old girl. A woman with huge tits in a bikini. AN ALIEN. "

Who the hell is an alien in SC4? "


Yoda.@heatDrive88 said:

" I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur? "
The Quick Look, not the review.
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#13  Edited By KaosAngel
 @hencook:  No one counts Yoda as a legit Soul Calibur character....just like no one counts Link and Spawn.  O_o
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#14  Edited By ryanwho

The same guys who want soft porn in their fighting games buy Sports Illustrated Swimsuit and Maxim because they think actual porn is for perverts. Its just. 
Dude, don't beat around the bush. There's porn, and there's entertainment, and there's cheap entertainment (the stuff in between). Don't dilly dally, just watch porn if that's what you're interested in, don't make games embarrassing for normal people to play because you need soft porn in your mature gamer experience bro.

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#15  Edited By CL60
@heatDrive88 said:
" I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur? "
He clearly said quick look.
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#16  Edited By Th3_James

I prefer a nice bum

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#17  Edited By rjaylee

Oh, whoops sorry. I clearly can't read. :(
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#18  Edited By lordofultima

Boobs are nice in real life, digital boobs are silly looking, especially in Ivy's case in Soul Calibur IV.

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#19  Edited By KaosAngel
@CL60 said:
" @heatDrive88 said:
" I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur? "
He clearly said quick look. "
He didnt' SAY anything.  He "typed" it.  Hehe.  ^.~
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#20  Edited By nanikore

You just answered your own question. "I like boobs."

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#21  Edited By hencook
@ryanwho said:

" The same guys who want soft porn in their fighting games buy Sports Illustrated Swimsuit and Maxim because they think actual porn is for perverts. Its just. Dude, don't beat around the bush. There's porn, and there's entertainment, and there's cheap entertainment (the stuff in between). Don't dilly dally, just watch porn if that's what you're interested in, don't make games embarrassing for normal people to play because you need soft porn in your mature gamer experience bro. "

You're putting Sex below Violence. Why? Would you buy COD4, if it was just paper machete shooting green beams of happiness at each other? Why does Manhunt have to have overly gratuitous Violence? Sex should be treated at the same level as Violence.  For every Manhunt, there is just cause for there to be a Soul Calibur 4 with "destructible armor". Just because YOU don't appreciate it, doesn't mean that others don't.
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#22  Edited By hencook

To everyone saying "Oh he actually said "I like boobs"...if you read the thread title, it says "Does Jeff ACTUALLY hate boobs", as opposed to liking them. Now get over the quote and please read deeper into the actual post itself.

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#23  Edited By TheHBK

I think his opinion is based on boobs in games.  These japanese developers always go way too far.  Imagine what the Saboteur nudity would be like had it been made in Japan?  Those things would have a whole physics engine written just for them and be size 40FF.  Seriously, no japanese woman has boobs as big as they show in games there, and let alone a 15 year old girl they depict in some of these games.
Side note, it is interesting to me to note these things, but if he does hate boobs, it might confirm my suspicions that Jeff is a homosexual.  Just thought i would throw that out there.

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#24  Edited By hatking
@hencook said:
"@ryanwho said:
" The same guys who want soft porn in their fighting games buy Sports Illustrated Swimsuit and Maxim because they think actual porn is for perverts. Its just. Dude, don't beat around the bush. There's porn, and there's entertainment, and there's cheap entertainment (the stuff in between). Don't dilly dally, just watch porn if that's what you're interested in, don't make games embarrassing for normal people to play because you need soft porn in your mature gamer experience bro. "
You're putting Sex below Violence. Why? Would you buy COD4, if it was just paper machete shooting green beams of happiness at each other? Why does Manhunt have to have overly gratuitous Violence? No. Sex should be treated at the same level as Violence.  For every Manhunt, there is just cause for there to be a Soul Calibur 4 with "destructible armor". Just because YOU don't appreciate it, doesn't mean that others don't. "

You keep your sex out of my violence, okay?
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#25  Edited By EpicSteve

There's a time and a place for boobs.

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#26  Edited By hencook
@TheHBK said:
" I think his opinion is based on boobs in games.  These japanese developers always go way too far.  Imagine what the Saboteur nudity would be like had it been made in Japan?  Those things would have a whole physics engine written just for them and be size 40FF.  Seriously, no japanese woman has boobs as big as they show in games there, and let alone a 15 year old girl they depict in some of these games. Side note, it is interesting to me to note these things, but if he does hate boobs, it might confirm my suspicions that Jeff is a homosexual.  Just thought i would throw that out there. "
It's not just Japanese Developers, it's the Japan Culture. To America, Japan is OBSESSED with Sex. To Japan however, they are not restricted to the American Value/Religion that you shouldn't show breasts. They're FREE! Naked tits regularly show in Japan after 8PM on TV, after the kids go to sleep. Do we as Americans have the right to judge international games based on American Values? Maybe. Maybe not. But if you don't like it? Don't play it.
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#27  Edited By Persecution
@hencook said:
"

Jeff says-

The Saboteur Quick Look- "You know I appreciate naked lady action whenever I can get it, but I don't know if I need it in my video games."

Soul Calibur 4 Video Review- "I don't want you to get the wrong impression on me, and think that I only like explosions.  I Like Boobs. There, I said it, I hate to be the controversial one.Boobs are awesome, but there's a limit. There's a line. Ivy is over this line. It's too... it looks wrong, I don't like looking at her, and it's creepy looking."

Jeff makes it a part of his criticism of the game, and I would say the breasts had a major factor in his _3_STAR_ review of the game.

It seems that Jeff would impose his extremely personal beliefs into a game review. What if Jeff hated Nazi Killing? Would it be correct for him to lower scores on games with Nazi Killing? Why doesn't Jeff lower scores on games that feature Lolicon (extremely young) girls in the game? Did Jeff notice that Soul Calibur 4 has a young 16 year old girl named Amy, that STRIPS when she takes enough guard damage? What's more wrong, a young girl stripping, or a lady with big tits stripping in the same game?


Open Letter to Jeff-

There's a lesson to learn here, Jeff. You said it yourself, the Star Wars characters were a quick cash in. It's true, SC4 has a bunch of different characters that don't really make sense to be fighting. A 16 year old girl. A woman with huge tits in a bikini. AN ALIEN. Here's two points to consider-

1. It's Fantasy. Go back to MMA games if you want JUST GUYS duking it out.

2. It's what people want. I've played SC4 with a lot of people, and some guys go straight for the Amy, the Ivy, and the Yoda. Just like the designer who made Ivy, there's someone out there that appreciates tits much more than you pretend to, Jeff. Strong Production Values and Game Mechanics should be subject to review, not personal tastes. Sex Sells because People Like Sex.

"

Well to be honest just because rediculously sized polygonal tits turn your crank doesn't make them any less creepy, i mean i love a nice pair as much as the next guy ( ON REAL WOMEN) but when it comes to Video games it is SERIOUSLY rediculous in the ways the female characters are sexed up to the point of embarrasment. I feel the same way about Anime dorks... it's fucking creepy how cartoons and polygonal bimbos get nerds and other japanophiles arroused.
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#28  Edited By Damien
@CL60 said:
" @heatDrive88 said:
" I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur? "
He clearly said quick look. "
@hencook said:
" Jeff makes it a part of his criticism of the game, and I would say the breasts had a major factor in his _3_STAR_ review of the game.

 
It seems that Jeffwould impose his extremely personal beliefs into a game review. "

He also mentions the review if you didn't notice.  Furthermore, he seems to be under the impression that Jeff reviewed the Saboteur, while, in fact, Ryan did review it.
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#29  Edited By VWGTI
@hencook said:
" @TheHBK said:
" I think his opinion is based on boobs in games.  These japanese developers always go way too far.  Imagine what the Saboteur nudity would be like had it been made in Japan?  Those things would have a whole physics engine written just for them and be size 40FF.  Seriously, no japanese woman has boobs as big as they show in games there, and let alone a 15 year old girl they depict in some of these games. Side note, it is interesting to me to note these things, but if he does hate boobs, it might confirm my suspicions that Jeff is a homosexual.  Just thought i would throw that out there. "
It's not just Japanese Developers, it's the Japan Culture. To America, Japan is OBSESSED with Sex. To Japan however, they are not restricted to the American Value/Religion that you shouldn't show breasts. They're FREE! Naked tits regularly show in Japan after 8PM on TV, after the kids go to sleep. Do we as Americans have the right to judge international games based on American Values? Maybe. Maybe not. But if you don't like it? Don't play it. "
Don't the Japanese censor their porn though?
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#30  Edited By Korone
@Damien said:
" @CL60 said:
" @heatDrive88 said:
" I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur? "
He clearly said quick look. "
@hencook said:
" Jeff makes it a part of his criticism of the game, and I would say the breasts had a major factor in his _3_STAR_ review of the game.

 
It seems that Jeffwould impose his extremely personal beliefs into a game review. "

He also mentions the review if you didn't notice.  Furthermore, he seems to be under the impression that Jeff reviewed the Saboteur, while, in fact, Ryan did review it. "
He's probably talking about Jeff's three star review of SCIV.
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#31  Edited By Damien
@Korone said:
" @Damien said:
" @CL60 said:
" @heatDrive88 said:
" I thought Ryan did the review of Saboteur? "
He clearly said quick look. "
@hencook said:
" Jeff makes it a part of his criticism of the game, and I would say the breasts had a major factor in his _3_STAR_ review of the game.

 
It seems that Jeffwould impose his extremely personal beliefs into a game review. "

He also mentions the review if you didn't notice.  Furthermore, he seems to be under the impression that Jeff reviewed the Saboteur, while, in fact, Ryan did review it. "
He's probably talking about Jeff's three star review of SCIV. "
Ok I didn't get that.  That makes sense.  My mistake.  Carry on.
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#32  Edited By hencook
@VWGTI said:
" @hencook said:
" @TheHBK said:
" I think his opinion is based on boobs in games.  These japanese developers always go way too far.  Imagine what the Saboteur nudity would be like had it been made in Japan?  Those things would have a whole physics engine written just for them and be size 40FF.  Seriously, no japanese woman has boobs as big as they show in games there, and let alone a 15 year old girl they depict in some of these games. Side note, it is interesting to me to note these things, but if he does hate boobs, it might confirm my suspicions that Jeff is a homosexual.  Just thought i would throw that out there. "
It's not just Japanese Developers, it's the Japan Culture. To America, Japan is OBSESSED with Sex. To Japan however, they are not restricted to the American Value/Religion that you shouldn't show breasts. They're FREE! Naked tits regularly show in Japan after 8PM on TV, after the kids go to sleep. Do we as Americans have the right to judge international games based on American Values? Maybe. Maybe not. But if you don't like it? Don't play it. "
Don't the Japanese censor their porn though? "
They censor them because of American introduced laws when America had a significant military installment in Japan.
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#33  Edited By Lowbrow

Your post is retarded. You assume he dropped the score cause of digital boobs.
 
What if the game just didn't warrant a 4 or 5 star review?
 
Then you say that if he doesn't like oversized weird looking titties, then to go play MMA games cause there are only dudes in it?
 
 He was trying to point out that girls with 500 pound breasts don't exist, and if they did, would likely not be world class fighters. 
 
Its not that he doesn't like female characters, he just doesn't like ones that are ridiculously disproportionate. 
 
Thats what I get from what he's said about that kinda stuff.

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#34  Edited By Snail

 
 
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#35  Edited By Cube

Not very smart, are you?

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#36  Edited By hencook
@Lowbrow said:
" Your post is retarded. You assume he dropped the score cause of digital boobs.  What if the game just didn't warrant a 4 or 5 star review?  Then you say that if he doesn't like oversized weird looking titties, then to go play MMA games cause there are only dudes in it?   He was trying to point out that girls with 500 pound breasts don't exist, and if they did, would likely not be world class fighters.   Its not that he doesn't like female characters, he just doesn't like ones that are ridiculously disproportionate.   Thats what I get from what he's said about that kinda stuff. "
It's true, I am wholly assuming that he dropped the score because of the breasts. I am wholly assuming that the breasts, which he takes ~ 20 seconds to cover, contribute to the score, because he actually decided to put it in the actual video game review, rather than just an off comment about the game in say, bombcast.
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#37  Edited By skrutop

I think you're just upset because SC4 got a 3-star review.  I agree with Jeff on both the score, and that Ivy's character design has gone off the deep end.

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#38  Edited By pakx

So you're asking if Jeff's personal opinion should factor into his review... which is a personal opinion. Wicked bro.

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#39  Edited By Bwast

I don't think Jeff actually hates boobs. What kind of a man would he be?! Next thing you know this clown will start topics like " Does Brad actually hate screaming at small animals?" or "Does Ryan actually hate eating a steak with his bare hands?". 

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#40  Edited By Pie

Oh dear god.....

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#41  Edited By torus
@ryanwho said:
" The same guys who want soft porn in their fighting games buy Sports Illustrated Swimsuit and Maxim because they think actual porn is for perverts. Its just. Dude, don't beat around the bush. There's porn, and there's entertainment, and there's cheap entertainment (the stuff in between). Don't dilly dally, just watch porn if that's what you're interested in, don't make games embarrassing for normal people to play because you need soft porn in your mature gamer experience bro.  
Quoted for fucking truth.
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#42  Edited By LiquidSwords
@EpicSteve said:
"There's a time and a place for boobs. "

Truth!
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#43  Edited By damswedon

seems like you don't understand one of the key beliefs of GiantBomb.
everything on the site that ain't part of the wiki is opinion. if you don't like it fair dues just get over it.

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#44  Edited By Korone

Those opinions are still worth discussing, though.

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#45  Edited By The_Dude

Wtf, who still cares, I remember when this review took a little heat but...WTF why did this subject come back up!? SC4 was not a fun fighting game boobs aside, I don't think it even deserved 3 stars.

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#46  Edited By hencook
@pakx said:
" So you're asking if Jeff's personal opinion should factor into his review... which is a personal opinion. Wicked bro. "
For the most part, the "Review= Personal Opinion" Disclaimer really works, but in some cases they should be impersonal, in this case, taste. Like I said, if Jeff hated Nazi killing, then more people would actually speak up, since Jeff would be flooding reviews with "this game kills nazis so it sucks"
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Flame me, spam my inbox, whatever, but I like virtual boobs, and so do my friends. I hate using Ivy in Soul Calibur though, using a whip is not my style when it comes to fighting games.

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#48  Edited By bed
@VWGTI said: 
Don't the Japanese censor their porn though? "
yeah. it's illegal to show genitalia in porn in Japan. 
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#49  Edited By Ghostiet

Screw boobs, people.

I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE!

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#50  Edited By TheLegendofLuke
@hencook said:

Jeff makes it a part of his criticism of the game, and I would say the breasts had a major factor in his _3_STAR_ review of Soul Calibur 4.

Or you know, it could just be because it was a mediocre game...