Fat List of 360 Install Sizes and Notes

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Edited By Jeff  Staff
It's a hard drive!
It's a hard drive!
People come together for the greater good, but instead of raising a barn or something dumb like that, they put together a fat list of details on installing games to your 360's hard drive.

Seems like the ability to install games to the Xbox 360's hard drive, a feature that was added in last week's dashboard update, has led to a whole lot of confusion and requests for information. A large posse has come together in a few different places in an attempt to answer these questions.

So if you're left wondering about install sizes or load time differences, you might want to start at this NeoGAF post devoted to the topic.

I installed Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts last night and started playing it, and noticed that the game seems to seize up once or twice a minute when it saves your game. Not sure if that's related to being installed or some other strange issue, but I guess I'm going to try deleting the install tonight to see if that helps.
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#1  Edited By Jeff  Staff
It's a hard drive!
It's a hard drive!
People come together for the greater good, but instead of raising a barn or something dumb like that, they put together a fat list of details on installing games to your 360's hard drive.

Seems like the ability to install games to the Xbox 360's hard drive, a feature that was added in last week's dashboard update, has led to a whole lot of confusion and requests for information. A large posse has come together in a few different places in an attempt to answer these questions.

So if you're left wondering about install sizes or load time differences, you might want to start at this NeoGAF post devoted to the topic.

I installed Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts last night and started playing it, and noticed that the game seems to seize up once or twice a minute when it saves your game. Not sure if that's related to being installed or some other strange issue, but I guess I'm going to try deleting the install tonight to see if that helps.
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#2  Edited By richied0

Don't care as long as the disc stops spinning.

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#3  Edited By Peter

1st

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#4  Edited By richied0

^^^^^

Owned

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#5  Edited By enesrules

yeyyyyyyyyyy

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#6  Edited By kraznor

Still don't get why Halo 3 would suffer rather than benefit from all this. I also installed Nuts and Bolts but haven't noticed any issues so far.

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Oo. Pretty sweet list.

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#8  Edited By stustap

Damn this install to HD thing really makes me want to upgrade to the 120gb drive.  Can barely fit one game on my current HD

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#9  Edited By Chummy8

Helpfull list.  I only have a 20gb HDD so space counts.

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#10  Edited By MeatSim

As long as the 360 stays quiet, it's all good.

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#11  Edited By whackmypinata

Did anybody else find it funny that the guy who made the NeoGAF topic had Jeff as his avatar?

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#12  Edited By BiggerBomb

I downloaded Far Cry 2 and there is absolutely no decrease in loading times.

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#13  Edited By Cubical

Ok

1 why does the dude got a pic of jeff?


2. If you got the game disc already it tells you how big it is what is the point of making the list?


Is everybody going to say im  not buying this  damn game because it takes 2323232333.GB of data and comes on 729 disc! oh my god  .


I mean really what is the point you whill know when you put this disc in.


the times of loads list is useful  though..

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#14  Edited By whackmypinata
Cubical said:
"Ok

1 why does the dude got a pic of jeff?


2. If you got the game disc already it tells you how big it is what is the point of making the list?


Is everybody going to say im  not buying this  damn game because it takes 2323232333.GB of data and comes on 729 disc! oh my god  .


I mean really what is the point you whill know when you put this disc in."
It says for some of them what installing it actually does.
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#15  Edited By Clockswork

Nice :D

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#16  Edited By spiceninja

How the hell are the arcade collection discs 3GB? Aren't those discs just a few XBLA games on one disc? How can that take up over 3GB?

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#17  Edited By ferrarimanf355

As that dude in Jaws wold say, we're going to need a bigger HDD...

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#18  Edited By MrSkids

I have been having so many problems with the new NXE.  I think it may be because I am living in Wales and its making everything fail.  The guy who wrote "1st" also must live here.  EPIC FAIL.

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#19  Edited By BinaryDragon

The photo of Jeff is priceless. Har har.

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#20  Edited By Kohe321

thanks for the heads up on the neogaf thread. I still haven't installed ONE game, putting in discs isn't that big of a hassle when my gaming collection is 6 feet from my Xbox360

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#21  Edited By CapnCloudchaser

I installed Fable 2 on the day NXE came out and almost had a heart attack as it ate up all my HD space, and that was after deleting one or two demos too. Guess with this update you're gonna need the 120GB HD!

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#22  Edited By crunchUK

huhh. i installed halo (yes i know it worsens load times but only if it recaches so if you play halo 90% of the time ala moi you don't notice aprt form every now and then) but my disk is on the verge of dieing... again

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#23  Edited By andrewf87462

Yeah i'm not too bothered either, just as long as my 360 is quieter, *must get new hard drive, 20GB sucks!

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#24  Edited By RoundRockDoc

I got the red ring immediately after loading the new dash board.  I heard this happened to Jeff.  Anyone else?

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#25  Edited By Meowayne

Argh! They too have that stupid Lost Odyssey video where someone is running a review copy, claiming that Lost Odyssey DVD loading has 30+ sec loading times.

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#26  Edited By Media_Master

360 has issues...

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#27  Edited By I_smell

Why would anyone install Xbox Live Arcade Compilation to the hard drive?

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#28  Edited By xWOBBx

lol i like how the link jeff posted goes to a forum and the dudes avatar is jeff hahaha

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#30  Edited By LiquidPrince
Richied said:
"Don't care as long as the disc stops spinning."
Your avatar is disturbing...

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#31  Edited By oobs

wonder why Crackdown isnt able to be installed..

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#32  Edited By Doublechops

I have a 20gb HD so only 1 game at a time for me (Fable, is my game of choice).  I looked at getting the 120gb today and here in the UK it costs about £100, I am now thinking I would be better buying the 360 Elite for £250.   Oh Microsoft , why would you do this, i am going to have to buy either a new 120gb HD or a 360 elite.  There is a third option, you know Microsoft, you cou release the 120gb herein the UK for about the £50 that it is acctually worth.   Ohh well Elite here we come, the kids will be happy they get a 360 , me I get that knowing stare from my girlfriend that clears the purchase.  We will both be shopping tommorow.

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#33  Edited By ImperiousRix

I don't see what the big deal with these installs is.  If it benefits the game, fine, but I'm not gonna install just so my Xbox 360 will "shut up".
Honestly, how long has everybody been playing disc-based game consoles where they're sincerely THAT bothered (or spoiled) to listen to the disc spinning in the console?

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#34  Edited By Mateus

Well, it won`t give the PS3 any edge since xbox games have had achievements since launch . Besides X360 has a larger number of games , a better price and a better online system, so far the edge is microsoft's.

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#35  Edited By Caddy

I think it's all worth it really, even if it doesn't drastically improve loading times, a quiet, stable 360 is very nice. I went out and spent some serious cash on the 120GB because I knew I couldn't handle only having one installed game at a time and I think it has been worth it so far.

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#36  Edited By hatking

I installed Left 4 Dead in hopes that the shorter load times will help me get first pick on the character I want.  To be honest though I'm not sure if the load times on it are shorter at all.  I also just installed GTA, that intial load has always been killer in GTA games so anything to shorten it is fine with me.

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#37  Edited By Wolverine
Jeff said:
"
It's a hard drive!
It's a hard drive!
People come together for the greater good, but instead of raising a barn or something dumb like that, they put together a fat list of details on installing games to your 360's hard drive.

Seems like the ability to install games to the Xbox 360's hard drive, a feature that was added in last week's dashboard update, has led to a whole lot of confusion and requests for information. A large posse has come together in a few different places in an attempt to answer these questions.

So if you're left wondering about install sizes or load time differences, you might want to start at this NeoGAF post devoted to the topic.

I installed Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts last night and started playing it, and noticed that the game seems to seize up once or twice a minute when it saves your game. Not sure if that's related to being installed or some other strange issue, but I guess I'm going to try deleting the install tonight to see if that helps.
"
You don't have to delete the install, you can just play it off the disc.
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#38  Edited By Milkman

I really need a bigger hard drive.

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#39  Edited By RawShark

It doesn't install Crackdown?! I'm offended. But then again, I'll probably never play that gem again.
Installed Gears 2 on day one, mainly to circumvent the problems of my crapped-out disc drive while playing online.

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#40  Edited By godzilla_sushi

My Banjo does not do that.

I hope you like that game Jeff, I think it's overflowing with great content once it gets a chance.

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#41  Edited By Brackynews

Should my mind be blown that the Xbox Live Arcade Compilation Disc is nearly 6 gigs?  What are the odds some of that is anti-ISO filler?

Anyway, enjoying my new 120GB fo sho.  It's practically an investment when I consider how many disc-read errors crash certain games.  Less wear and tear overall on the box.

As for why Halo 3 is worse, simple: optimization (ie: smart programming) and parallel access.  The same reason you don't want a Photoshop swap file on the same drive as your OS swap file.  The same reason you don't try to copy multiple files off a DVD simultaneously.  A drive works faster doing one thing at a time.

It's almost funny how because the original Xbox had a mandatory HD, that its loading times were consistently better, with every game able to use a cache and swap file.
Hopefully the next 12-24 months of 360 releases get even slicker now that MS is promoting hard drives to Arcade owners.

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#42  Edited By Railer

Installed Fallout 3 to the HDD, but i havent really noticed any difference so far. I still prefer to play it from the HDD though, since then i don't have to hear the DVD drive work like crazy, and i'll always be worried about it breaking down.

I only have the 20gb HDD though, and i wanna pick up the 120gb one. The problem is it's horribly overpriced here in Sweden, so i'm waiting for something to happen with the price before i pick one up.

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#43  Edited By TaintedSun

I couldn't care less about installing to the HDD. One, the whole idea of spending a bunch of time researching how-to's and waiting for the files to copy over is silly. I saved two seconds and the expense of fifteen minutes; a genius, I am. Two, my 360 sits right near my computer and my computer's side fan is ever so slightly softer than a 360's whirlwind of a disk drive. Seeing as I've gotten used to, and actually embraced, the sound of spinning mechanics, the idea of making my hardware quietier is... well, one I would literally lose sleep over.

Come on, something has to block out the sound of traffic outside while I game, right?

Besides, my 360 HDD isn't big enough to hold all my games and it will just feel puny compared to the easy loading applications of xFire and Steam, that it's not even worth the hassle.

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#44  Edited By Manatassi

Doublechops, You can easily get a 120gb HDD in the UK for about £80, I lucked out and got mine for £70. Still a bit pricey I guess but I reeeeeally needed the space :)

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#45  Edited By Pro_wrestler

I think some people are getting confused as to what the purpose was for these installs. Not so that the game would load faster but so that the core temperature would lower due to the drive being inactive while gaming - It was motivated by the 360's reliability issues.

Off-topic: Does anyone know why my pichachu hitler icon won't upload? Also, any word on GB adding signatures to this forum? Its hard to identify some people when browsing.

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#46  Edited By AutomaticSnake

I wont be using this feature, my little 20gb HDD not meant for this.... but i dont really care i buy most my games on PS3 :)

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#47  Edited By daniel_beck_90
AutomaticSnake said:
"I wont be using this feature, my little 20gb HDD not meant for this.... but i dont really care i buy most my games on PS3 :)"
you can easily install one game at a time (2 games max )
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#48  Edited By Terranova

I have to say i feel sorry for 360 owners in the way Microsoft force you to use their own HDD drives, at least with the PS3 you can use any 2.5" SATA HDD drive, i currently have 320GB in mine and it cost me less than half the price Microsoft ask for their messly 120GB.

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#49  Edited By lamegame621

i want the ability to use a 2.5" like PS3 users. Damn Microsoft for making me use their overpriced first-party HDD.

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#50  Edited By Dustin

If you want the most comprehensive list available, you should check my thread over at Cheap Ass Gamer.  We have 286 games listed and counting.  I update ti daily, and we've started categorizing games based on performance.  We're up to about 50 now.

286 Games and Counting - http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5064959&postcount=1