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#1 Edited by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

(For the most up-to-date schedule on upcoming fighting game events, check out http://tinyurl.com/fgccal)

Welcome to your one stop shop for everything GB FGC FGT (Giant Bomb Fighting Game Community Fighting Game Talk) related. Pull up a chair, put a stick on your lap, chat about hot Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire strats, and check this OP for details on upcoming tournament streams and events.

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#3 Posted by L1GHTN1N (1987 posts) -

Well alright then!

Seeing the MKX beta got me excited about playing some again so I played some matches online and wow that's bad, not quite as terrible as I remember it or as KoFXIII was but yikes. Hopefully I get an invite soon. I know I also complain about NRS games getting constant patches but I wouldn't mind a few for Jason, I play Slasher which is his best variation but even then it's rough. I played a Cassie and either every move of hers is stupidly safe/plus on block or Jason is so slow that he can't punish even with crouching 1. Later in the match I tried doing EX BF2 (the machete chop while walking forward) on wake-up, I guess Cassie's 33 beats it before the first hit can come out and back on my face I went. At least his BnBs are fun I guess?

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#4 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

When I go and beg the mods to set up chat for us this weekend, I'm assuming we all want bgcallisto and nycfurby for Fri/Sat yeah?

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#5 Posted by Belegorm (1827 posts) -

@starvinggamer: Whatever has GGXrd seems most important considering it's THE GG tournament. I'll put a vote for whatever stream has UNIEL if Xrd isn't going, that game is dope.

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#6 Edited by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

@belegorm: Most def, it's more I don't want to exclude the Smash streams by default but I'm pretty sure we'd rather have BB, MvC, UNiEL, P4A, and SG instead.

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#7 Edited by Zella (1264 posts) -

Yay more late night SFV testing

Edit: Somehow ran into the same laggy Karin twice in a row. God she becomes impossible to fight when there is lag. Also it seems you can't counter her rekka moves, maybe that is only when crouching? It just seems dumb cause while it is technically a rekka there is a ton of delay between the moves.

Just lost a match where both rounds that they won they won with zero health cause I forgot you can't chip the opponent out unless it is a super.

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#8 Edited by Belegorm (1827 posts) -

Here's hoping they throw in Chun and Ken (maybe Ryu and who knows, possibly Fang at some point), during these tech checks.

I find it weird they consider Cammy a rushdown character in SFV but not Karin. They both are just really solid footsie characters that can mount a steady offense or play really lame too. If anything though I would put Karin as more rushdown-oriented though.

Fortunately for me, I'm pretty familiar with Cammy so I do have someone to play. Unfortunately most of my matches have been lag city so far, and I think joy2key with my ps3/ps4 stick is noticeably laggier than things should be.

Edit: Also maybe it's either that input lag from joy2key, or the program messing up the inputs, or SFV having weird input leniency, but I find it considerably harder on hitbox to do basic special moves compared to playing 3S on PS3 or PC.

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#9 Edited by Fredchuckdave (10825 posts) -

Rushdown = every character.

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#10 Posted by Zella (1264 posts) -

Alright calling it for the night, finished just with a winning ratio and with 619 LP. Saw a couple great names, fought a 900 LP player going by WhensJUrien, and also a player going by FANGbus which I am ashamed to admit I found kind of funny.

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#11 Edited by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

Weird to see Nash there and not Ken but eh. Just messed around in training a bit with Cammy and it's real tough when I try to cancel a low into a DP into Super. I usually just get low into Super. I don't really want to play any of the characters though so I guess I'll call it there.

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#12 Posted by Fredchuckdave (10825 posts) -

@starvinggamer: Because of simplified inputs its very easy to get super instead of DP or vice versa; might have gotten worse since the first/second beta.

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#13 Edited by Zella (1264 posts) -

God damn it I was hoping to sleep tonight

This game is great when the netcode is running fine but I find laggy matches in SFV much worse than laggy matches in USFIV.

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#14 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

Oh fuck Ryu? No, it's really late, I should bed.

Fuuuck

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#15 Posted by Zella (1264 posts) -

Ok a few matches with Ryu done and now I gotta seriously stop. Finished things off with a cheesy V Trigger into Denjin Hadoken Chip Out win.

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#16 Posted by IVDAMKE (1687 posts) -

Oh man Nash is back to the way he was in Beta 2. He got his full 530/620 damage and stun combo back and his cr.mp > f.mp target combo back. Also unless I've not realized this from all the previous beta's he can now v-trigger on block? Any other Nash players know whether this was a thing before that I never even tried to utilize?

Otherwise the matchmaking was near perfect for me, got matches within 10 seconds of being in training and they were all from my region.

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#17 Edited by L1GHTN1N (1987 posts) -

@baronsamedi: 90% sure he couldn't V-Trigger on block in the betas though there's been so many changes and betas I'm starting to lose track.

Guess I get to stay up late tonight and hope it comes up again.

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#18 Posted by FLStyle (6378 posts) -
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#19 Posted by IVDAMKE (1687 posts) -

@l1ghtn1n: Yea I thought so too, but I did think it could've been something I just simply didn't try. I hope it stays because it's pretty ridiculous being able to not only make specials safe on block but also cancel it into a cross up, cross over or overhead. Nash was a real blast to play in that last beta man you missed out.

Also those leaked costumes.

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#20 Posted by Belegorm (1827 posts) -

Gah, seems ken was enabled right after I went to bed? damn

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#21 Posted by hmoney001 (1127 posts) -

Damn MK XL comes out on my birthday.

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#22 Posted by L1GHTN1N (1987 posts) -

@hmoney001: Didn't have a chance to watch the trailer yet, I'm assuming it's just a komplete edition? Wonder if the March date means they're shooting to have KP2 done by point or start it then, would be sort of weird to drop it in the middle of it.

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#23 Posted by Epidehl (626 posts) -

@l1ghtn1n: Seems like it's a "Komplete Edition", but also has a bunch of skins NOT in KP2. Presumably those will be sold separately, which is a bummer since they're finally putting out costumes for the new characters (though it seems Jacqi and Cassie just got Scorpion & Sub-Zero costumes respectively).

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#24 Posted by Barrabas (512 posts) -

It's kind of shitty that these new costumes presumably won't be in KP2, and instead KP2 comes with a lot of costumes that are already available. I know I would be annoyed if I had already bought those costumes when I could have just waited for KP2.

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#25 Posted by sparky_buzzsaw (8288 posts) -

Here's a beta code for SFV. First come, first serve.

MK4J-8FNT-K3xx with the last two letters being an abbreviation of a game whose real life auction house was met with derision from everyone and saw a pretty good console rerelease last year.

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#28 Posted by hmoney001 (1127 posts) -

Glad to see Karen getting tasteful alt costumes. #bestgirl

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#29 Posted by Technician (779 posts) -

Sounds like MK Kombat Pack 2, the new netcode and MK XL aren't coming to PC. I guess WB wants to avoid more PC refunds? I don't have the game on PC but fans who do must feel really burned at this point, that's really unfortunate.

I have absolutely no interest in MK XL (might as well add ":Tri-Borg Edition" to the name or something, these guys are really on a roll), but I guess it's good for those people that couldn't pick up the game last year. As much as I am disappointed with the game it still seems to have a strong community (at least compared to where the last two games were at this point) and they are making an effort to fix the online.

Speaking of online, I heard that the online in the last couple of "stealth" betas for SFV wasn't too great. I missed out on them, but does anyone have any thoughts on how the online play has been? Any concerns about the final product? We are less than a month away, after all.

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#30 Edited by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

Ugh that Cammy costume looked alright until I realized she's wearing a coat and no pants...? Like, what the actual fuck?

EDIT: Like, give her some fucking hotpants or something, not just like obviously a pair of panties.

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#31 Posted by recroulette (5455 posts) -

A new thread? BONITA

The situation with Mortal Kombat 40 is dumb as hell. I hope they clear that up (aka Kombat Pack 2 better get all of the costumes)

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#32 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -
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#33 Edited by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

Alright so we got chat for Frosty starting Friday after UPF though Sat then switching over to ESL for Sunday!\

EDIT: Also OP has been updated with better schedules from @acekingoffsuit and we're getting bgcallisto and nycfurby for those days

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#34 Edited by L1GHTN1N (1987 posts) -

@starvinggamer: Nice! Will be around Sunday for at least the Kombat Kast and finals, and maybe Saturday for some FF.

Bit confused why everyone thinks the costumes are going to be sold separately, every character with KP1 came with costumes as part of it so depending on the price I don't see why this would be any different? Looking at the store the only two costume packs that weren't were the Kold War packs (which I guess was designed by someone else) and the Brazil Jersy pack which came out during World Cup so easy money there I guess.

Edit: MIKE. ROSS. MIKE! Ross...

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#35 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

Mike Ross just beat Tokido and is on his way to beating Jwong o_O

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#36 Posted by IVDAMKE (1687 posts) -

Some good showcasing of what can be done in SFV here. Much better than the previous exhibitions where people were kind've clueless.

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#37 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

LOOK AT THESE FUCKING PS4s!

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#38 Posted by IVDAMKE (1687 posts) -

@starvinggamer: Every time I see a white PS4 I regret not choosing a white PS4.

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#39 Edited by grandCurator (170 posts) -

@baronsamedi: Right? That thing looks god damn great.

@starvinggamer:I always forget that Mike Ross can actually be great at fighting games after watching Excellent Adventures for so long.

Unrelated to these two things, I've been playing Melty Blood again in anticipation of the steam release. That is still a DAMN fine fighting game.

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#40 Posted by TheHT (15010 posts) -

Oh my goodness what happened to Cammy's pants. They're missing! What the hell is up with Laura too. That outfit looks like some cheap reduced clothing mod with MS paint textures.

And did they really take R. Mika's butt slap out of frame? Silly. That ain't risqué; her butt is the goddamn devil. Bad memories of that thing flying around the screen in Alpha 3, accompanied by her terrifying shouts. She's a menace! The super basically had a built-in taunt.

Officer Chun-Li is great though, as is battle-damage Bison.

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#41 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

I guess trying to edit thread titles from my iPad blows up the entire OP lesson learned.

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#42 Edited by Hippie_Genocide (2195 posts) -

Guys, help me out. I want to love SFV. I really do. But every time I play or watch it I get supremely bored. I get that they want to take it back to the fundamentals but I feel like maybe they've gone too far. In theory that should really appeal to me because my heyday with SF was back on Hyper Fighting but it's just not clicking with me. What am I missing? I want to find some enjoyment out of it since I know it's going to headline just about every major tournament for at least the next five years.

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#43 Edited by IVDAMKE (1687 posts) -

@hippie_genocide: We can't really help you if you just get bored. That's just a thing you're gonna have to deal with, it's a shame you don't enjoy it I guess?

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#44 Posted by StarvingGamer (11467 posts) -

@hippie_genocide: I'd say give it time. SFIV was pretty boring early days as well. Did you watch the tourney tonight? Did you see when Combofiend went nuts on Mike Ross with Laura?

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#45 Posted by Hippie_Genocide (2195 posts) -

@starvinggamer no I tuned in late and it was just casuals with gootecks and fourwude. I think they said tomorrow 6pst so I'll try and catch that.

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#46 Posted by hmoney001 (1127 posts) -

Bah have to work this weekend. I know our firewall doesn't block the chat but does block Twitch.

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#47 Edited by Fredchuckdave (10825 posts) -

@hippie_genocide: Just embrace the down backing, it is the SFV method of champions. Aside from weird stuff that people are unfamiliar with to start with but eventually gets patched or adjustments are made. But generally speaking down backing is absolutely godlike in SFV.

For all you devout MKX fans there's a fairly large change in the beta build, breakers now deplete both players' stamina bars completely; which prevents the breaker from being useless defensively and might actually slow the game down a tad.

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#48 Posted by hmoney001 (1127 posts) -

Some Mad Catz V Cup results.

Team Mike Ross vs. Team Combofiend — Results

1. Team Combofiend

Zhi (Dhalsim, Zangief)

MCZ|Tokido (Nash)

EG|Justin Wong (Chun-Li)

Combofiend (Laura)

2. Team Mike Ross

RB|Snake Eyez (Zangief)

Gootecks (R. Mika, Ryu)

Floe (Chun-Li, Vega)

Mike Ross (Birdie)

Team Mike Ross vs. Team Combofiend — Battle log

• Combofiend (Laura) beat Mike Ross (Birdie) 2-0.

• Mike Ross (Birdie) beat EG|Justin Wong (Chun-Li) 2-1.

• Mike Ross (Birdie) beat MCZ|Tokido (Nash) 2-0.

• MCZ|Tokido (Nash) beat Floe (Chun-Li, Vega) 2-0.

• MCZ|Tokido (Nash) beat Gootecks (R. Mika, Ryu) 2-0.

• MCZ|Tokido (Nash) beat RB|Snake Eyez (Zangief) 2-1.

• RB|Snake Eyez (Zangief) beat Zhi (Dhalsim, Zangief) 2-0.

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#49 Posted by Epidehl (626 posts) -

@l1ghtn1n: I actually had that thought with the costumes because of this trailer, which lists the included costumes as being the Kold War and Brazil packs (+Kold War Scorpion seperately). Turns out I missed the "Apocalypse Pack", which I assume is all the new costumes (though that seems like a lot for one pack).

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#50 Posted by L1GHTN1N (1987 posts) -

@epidehl: My guess would be the simpler costumes like Scorp/Sub Cassie/Jacqui are released for free when new characters drop while the more involved stuff are part of the Apocalypse Pack or possibly separately. They put up a page showing exactly what's included in that one and the other packs. The XL version is just MKX + KP1 + KP2 plus all the costumes so far, there's an XL version that includes KP1 + KP2 + Costumes + Goro for $25, and then KP2 has the 4 characters + Apocalypse pack for $20. So I guess if you don't have Goro yet but MKX get the XL pack?

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