- Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts
- Far Cry 2
- Mirrors Edge
- Resistance 2
Games you think it will Flop
I called it with Mercs 2 but I'll go with games that haven't come out yet:
-Gears of War 2
-Resistance 2
-Killzone 2
Don't hate me, please!
I'm not really sure what being a 'flop' entails... it doesn't sell as well as expected? Or people like us go online and moan that it wasn't all that good (despite spending sixty dollars on it).
"I'm not really sure what being a 'flop' entails... it doesn't sell as well as expected? Or people like us go online and moan that it wasn't all that good (despite spending sixty dollars on it).For example, the more I think about Halo 3 the more I think it was a bit rubbish really, at least compared to what it was supposed to be. Of course, it sold a lot, got good reviews, and has a lot of fans. But the more I think of it, it didn't really measure up to my personal expectations.On that note:Killzone 2 (I have no idea why people are so excited about this game)Fable 2 (I liked Fable, but people are falling for Molyneux's hype, AGAIN - Fable 2 will be good but it won't reinvent video games)Saints Row 2 (I know it isn't exactly being hailed from the rooftops, but I think it'll be a good game with issues, when it could be more than that)"
Killzone never even recieved decent reviews. Out of the blue comes a pretty teaser for Killzone 2, released two years ago, and now all of a sudden it's the second coming.
I can see Killzone 2 dying on its arse. Sony genuinely have nothing so they have to push it, but the first game was garbage and I don't expect this one to be much different so it could end up a humiliating flop like Haze. I can see Nuts & Bolts being a sleeper hit kind of like Viva Pinata, which is a good thing because hype is good for nothing.
"Irishjohn said:I agree. Killzone 2 looks pretty, but it just doesn't look fun."I'm not really sure what being a 'flop' entails... it doesn't sell as well as expected? Or people like us go online and moan that it wasn't all that good (despite spending sixty dollars on it).For example, the more I think about Halo 3 the more I think it was a bit rubbish really, at least compared to what it was supposed to be. Of course, it sold a lot, got good reviews, and has a lot of fans. But the more I think of it, it didn't really measure up to my personal expectations.On that note:Killzone 2 (I have no idea why people are so excited about this game)Fable 2 (I liked Fable, but people are falling for Molyneux's hype, AGAIN - Fable 2 will be good but it won't reinvent video games)Saints Row 2 (I know it isn't exactly being hailed from the rooftops, but I think it'll be a good game with issues, when it could be more than that)"
Killzone never even recieved decent reviews. Out of the blue comes a pretty teaser for Killzone 2, released two years ago, and now all of a sudden it's the second coming."
"Far Cry 2DON'T YOU DARE! *Shoves fingers in ears* NAHHHNAHHHNAHHHHHHNAHHHH I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!! NAHHHNAHHHNAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Wolfenstein
Prototype"
"Killzone 2 and Fable 2 seem to be destined to flop in the review world."Fable 2?! ARE YOU STUPID?!
"Banjo KazooieAnimal Crossing won't fail cos even if it's pretty much like the others it will have Wi-Fi connection and the Wii Speak mic.
Animal Crossing Cityfolk
Killzone 2
Fallout 3"
Mirrors Edge
Crysis: Warhead (Good reviews, bad sales)
Fracture
Sonic
Fable 2
Tomb Raider
Banjo Kazooie
Velvet Assassin
Warhammer Online (Maybe)
And I don't think they will be considered a "flop" but I don't think Rock Band 2 or Guitar Hero World Tour will sell as well as the previous games.
"As pure guesses?Barely heard of the first, and have not heard of the others at all.I want Guitar Hero: World Tour to fail, but that's for the same reason as I wanted HD-DVD to fail and unfortunately for me, Guitar Hero: World Tour will not fail."
- Fracture
- Velvet Assassin
- Damnation
"Mirrors EdgeYou pretty much listed every game that still haven't come out this year.. Except Force Unleashed.
Crysis: Warhead (Good reviews, bad sales)
Fracture
Sonic
Fable 2
Tomb Raider
Banjo Kazooie
Velvet Assassin
Warhammer Online (Maybe)
And I don't think they will be considered a "flop" but I don't think Rock Band 2 or Guitar Hero World Tour will sell as well as the previous games."
Killzone 2 could very well flop. I hated the first one but this one actually looks like it's playable. It doesn't hurt that it's pleasing to the eyes this time, too. All the multiplayer stuff sounds kind of derivative, but still cool.
Either way, if Sony doesn't market the hell out of this thing, it will flop.
"Vlademir said:Maybe, but still... I doubt those games will sell very well at all."Mirrors EdgeYou pretty much listed every game that still haven't come out this year.. Except Force Unleashed."
Crysis: Warhead (Good reviews, bad sales)
Fracture
Sonic
Fable 2
Tomb Raider
Banjo Kazooie
Velvet Assassin
Warhammer Online (Maybe)
And I don't think they will be considered a "flop" but I don't think Rock Band 2 or Guitar Hero World Tour will sell as well as the previous games."
They will mostly be overshadowed by games like Left 4 Dead, Resistance 2, LBP, Gears 2, Wrath of the Lich King, Fallout 3...
fracture will flop
gears 2 will be good, sell alot but not make such an impact as the first.
Pretty much nintendo this holiday season. with bairly any AAA this holiday season (i own a wii and I am pissed too, so dont call me a fanboy)
GTA china town or what ever its called
star wars force unleased
Resident evil 5
"fracture will flopForce Unleashed already flopped.
gears 2 will be good, sell alot but not make such an impact as the first.
Pretty much nintendo this holiday season. with bairly any AAA this holiday season (i own a wii and I am pissed too, so dont call me a fanboy)
GTA china town or what ever its called
star wars force unleased
Resident evil 5"
"hazelnutman said:I beg to differ."Resistance 2?TBH they have never developed a really awesome game. Their games are okay but aren't that great."
*looks at Insomniac's previous games*
I seriously doubt this :|"
Killzone never even recieved decent reviews. Out of the blue comes a pretty teaser for Killzone 2, released two years ago, and now all of a sudden it's the second coming."Fr0Br0 said:
I agree. Killzone 2 looks pretty, but it just doesn't look fun."Exactly. I like the concept and some of the art direction, from what we've seen, but after the first game and with so little coming out about Killzone 2, it makes no sense.
My definition of a "flop" does not go by score-wise, but if I was hyping it and it disappointed me somehow. I guess I will have to say Gears of War 2, not so much for the fact I will hate it, but I'm hyping it extremely high, and I know it won't live up to that expectations.
I will enjoy it immensely, no doubt, but I don't think it will live up to my hype. Maybe I shouldn't hype it so high. Whether it doesn't live up or not, Gears of War 2 will be awesome.
"Vlademir said:That's kinda the point..."Mirrors EdgeYou pretty much listed every game that still haven't come out this year.. Except Force Unleashed."
Crysis: Warhead (Good reviews, bad sales)
Fracture
Sonic
Fable 2
Tomb Raider
Banjo Kazooie
Velvet Assassin
Warhammer Online (Maybe)
And I don't think they will be considered a "flop" but I don't think Rock Band 2 or Guitar Hero World Tour will sell as well as the previous games."
resistance 2 and killzone 2. sure resistance 1 got an 8.5 but now of course any old shooter doesn't cut it after halo 3, bioshock, crysis, and soon to be gears 2. and many other lesser titles. although i think it will sell on the gimmicky "ZOMG 60 PLAYERZ" basis alone. as for killzone 2... come on it might have motion blur and jerking enemiess but watching the videos, come on people it plays like crap and struggles past the 10 year old GOLDENEYE for gameplay.
"resistance 2 and killzone 2. sure resistance 1 got an 8.5 but now of course any old shooter doesn't cut it after halo 3, bioshock, crysis, and soon to be gears 2. and many other lesser titles. although i think it will sell on the gimmicky "ZOMG 60 PLAYERZ" basis alone. as for killzone 2... come on it might have motion blur and jerking enemiess but watching the videos, come on people it plays like crap and struggles past the 10 year old GOLDENEYE for gameplay."Every time you post, I cry for humanity.
Anyways, Force Unleashed.
"crunchUK said:I know, it has nothing to do with him even thinking that truthfully, but just having microsofts dick in his ass, as if hes gonna get rewarded one of these days for insulting Sony and being the biggest fanboy ever."resistance 2 and killzone 2. sure resistance 1 got an 8.5 but now of course any old shooter doesn't cut it after halo 3, bioshock, crysis, and soon to be gears 2. and many other lesser titles. although i think it will sell on the gimmicky "ZOMG 60 PLAYERZ" basis alone. as for killzone 2... come on it might have motion blur and jerking enemiess but watching the videos, come on people it plays like crap and struggles past the 10 year old GOLDENEYE for gameplay."Every time you post, I cry for humanity.
Anyways, Force Unleashed."
my list- (still confused at what flop means exactly in this thread so I'm going with my impressions
Fable 2...first one never impressed me at all, and the whole gimmick of this game Peter M tries to sell is a stupid fucking dog...no thanks- dogmeat>fable 2 dog btw.
Force Unleashed...I think there's definitely a bit of fun to be had if throwing guys around entertains you, just depends on how long it will really, but other than that this game really hasnothing else going for it
Saint's Row 2...I think a lot of this actually looks pretty fun, its taking the whole craziness that older GTA games had, and with co-op seems like it could be really fun..I just feel like being in GTAIV's shadow alone it won't sell well, and certain things will leave much to be desired.
gimmicky "ZOMG 60 PLAYERZ"Retard, right here. I don't even own a PS3, but I can tell that 60 player online is a big step.
"Ironhide said:Those game are absolutely going to flop."As pure guesses?Those are my bets."I want Guitar Hero: World Tour to fail, but that's for the same reason as I wanted HD-DVD to fail and unfortunately for me, Guitar Hero: World Tour will not fail."
- Fracture
- Velvet Assassin
- Damnation
"Halo Wars looks worse and worse every time I see it. "Forgot that one..even though halo was initially going to be an RTS , just the fact that it wasn't for one, for two, its an RTS on a console..at least I still have trouble accepting that, and third, Bungie isn't making it..a company inside Microsoft is so...just doesn't look to good imo.
and for the record, I'm not even hugely interested in R2 with everything else coming out, but the 60 players isn't just a gimmick I'll tell you that now. WIth dedicated servers, which have been tested from the US to EU and AU players in one server lag free, it is going to be fine, especially the way they are doing it. Frontlines was a mistake, they didn't even have dedicated servers..or correct me if I'm wrong , but if they did..they were some terrible ones.
I assume by Flop you mean not sell well. Which means you AREN'T necessarily saying these games will get bad reviews, right? I hope thats what you mean, because if not then you are feeding into some type of diseased videogame industry mentality where all that matters are review scores, and that simply isn't good for anybody...
But anyway...
- Fracture (I'm just not sure about it....)
- Lips (At first at least, I think it will have a long sell through life though...)
- Red Faction (Again, just not sure about it... the beta was pretty cool though)
- Call of Duty: World at War (Actually, I just HOPE that this game flops, so that we can stop seeing Call of Duty games sometime in the next century!)
- Far Cry 2 (It will sell OK, but people already have it out for this game, and if you know anything about all those internet forum stalking nerds, they can beat down a game into unimportance within days. See: Too Human)
- Crysis Warhead (I just dont see it moving that many units)
- Little Big Planet (I don't think this game will sell much outside of the "hardcore" gamer demographic, despite sony's effort to brand this the game for "everyone". It just seems kind of boring, and the general public, as much as they enjoy customizing existing games like The Sims, aren't really too gung-ho about making levels and basically "making a game" like in Little Big Planet" (cue defenders of this "videogame industry darling" from all reaches on the interenet universe.)
"My definition of a "flop" does not go by score-wise, but if I was hyping it and it disappointed me somehow. I guess I will have to say Gears of War 2, not so much for the fact I will hate it, but I'm hyping it extremely high, and I know it won't live up to that expectations.So...why not stop "hyping" it then? What you are saying is this:
I will enjoy it immensely, no doubt, but I don't think it will live up to my hype. Maybe I shouldn't hype it so high. Whether it doesn't live up or not, Gears of War 2 will be awesome."
"I won't like this game because it's just going to be the game I want to play, but it won't change my mind on the fact that I won't like it as much as I'm telling myself that I won't like it."
Or maybe you are persuaded by what other people (see: forum dwellers) define as being "hype" and "a flop". Because I guarantee you, no more than 3 seconds after Gears 2 comes out will the forums ignite in "Game is teh flop!!11211!" Just like this culture seems to do with every major release...
Or maybe I'm just wrong, who knows...maybe it won't be the game that you think it will not be...who knows..
"I can see Killzone 2 dying on its arse. Sony genuinely have nothing so they have to push it, but the first game was garbage and I don't expect this one to be much different so it could end up a humiliating flop like Haze. I can see Nuts & Bolts being a sleeper hit kind of like Viva Pinata, which is a good thing because hype is good for nothing."Sleeper hit? that thing didn't exactly sell well. I hate to think that rare is a company that people have low expectations of, back when they were making DK Country and the original Banjo titles you knew their games were going to be fantastic. Their games still are but people don't seem to be interested in them. This isn't a bash at you HandsomeDead, just stating my thoughts that linked with your post.
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