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#1 Edited by Not_Rage (595 posts) -

So I was looking at Metacritic for Tony Hawk Ride scores and was shocked that it got a 92/100 on a site called "Gaming Trend". 
Ive never heard of it so I checked out the forums and found the reviewer of the game trying to defend his high score despite negative reviews from IGN and GB.
 
He ends up calling Jeff a "douche" and an "eggplant". Another hatchet job?
 http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=33585.msg620002#msg620002

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#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

I'm guessing he saw the Tony Hawk 3 review and saw the blond-dyed hair :P.

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#3 Posted by TheGremp (2092 posts) -

Oh wow, a guy from "Gaming Trend" gave it a good score, so it must awesome, right?

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#4 Posted by ThePhantomnaut (6420 posts) -

Saying that already lowers credibility.

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#5 Posted by Chaser324 (8578 posts) -

Apparently GamingTrends has the only valid reviews on the internet. Someone tell Metacritic so that they can stop listing the reviews from any other sites.

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#6 Posted by jim_dandy (885 posts) -

You would think someone who titles themselves "Marketing Manager" would know better.
 
He has a differing opinion and insults another reviewer because of that?
 
Grow up Mike Dunn.

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#7 Posted by Red (6146 posts) -

I thought that user reviews weren't supposed to be counted on Metacritic. 
 
 
HEY O!

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#8 Posted by Dethfish (3861 posts) -

Eggplant?

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#9 Posted by sdauz (432 posts) -

how can he say that to jeff...the dude is a symbol of standing up for gaming journalism! can anyone remember Kane&Ass Dead Men

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#10 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1560 posts) -
@Red said:
" I thought that user reviews weren't supposed to be counted on Metacritic.   HEY O! "
No one can top that. Someone end this thread, right now.
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#11 Posted by alexrubens (239 posts) -

I'm pretty sure that he was one of the only guys who got a review copy. Surprisingly, all of them gave it good scores..... 

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#12 Posted by Apathylad (3234 posts) -

 

" Honestly, I expected reviews to be on either extreme on this one. Seems like you either get it and think it's great or don't and think it's the worst ever. This isn't the kind of game you can crank through in your cubicle. I also wonder if some of these outlets are being even more harsh because of the delay in review product..."
 

 There was no delay, review copies just weren't provided!

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#13 Posted by TheGremp (2092 posts) -
@Red said:
" I thought that user reviews weren't supposed to be counted on Metacritic.   HEY O! "
Zing!
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#14 Posted by breadfan (6803 posts) -

Thanks Mike Dunn, whoever you may be, for your well thought and concise professionalism.  
 
I honestly do not know why I have never visited your site in the past.  Personally I find it a fine establishment.  Oh wait, you're an idiot.

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#15 Posted by delta_ass (3776 posts) -

I've never even heard of Gaming Trend so uh... yea, good job getting some publicity, I guess...

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#16 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2929 posts) -

I just read that guy's review, it's littered with typos and reads like it was paid for. Especially the conclusion:
 
" An exciting new and immersive experience, Tony Hawk, Robomodo, and Activision have thrown down the gauntlet and defined the next generation of skating games.Cast off the shackles of those tired old skate games and handheld controllers and get ready to RIDE!"
 
Yeah, because 'handheld controllers' are 'shackles' to a gamer.

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#17 Posted by jmrwacko (2537 posts) -

The whole game is ON RAILS. How does it deserve any more than a 50%? I've played arcade games from the PS1 era that have better skateboard peripherals than the one featured in this game.

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#18 Posted by Brendan (9181 posts) -

Meh, who cares, Jeff is the Jim Cramer of video games.  He gets crap from idiots every other day of the week who just don't get it.
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#19 Edited by dietmango (1795 posts) -

Eh, another idiot who just can't take negativity. So what if Jeff thought Tony Hawk Ride sucked? It's his review. When you bitch like that about somebody else's opinion, you really can't call yourself a professional. I wonder who's really the "douche" and the "eggplant" here.

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#20 Posted by FCKSNAP (2338 posts) -

If it's not Top Skater it doesn't deserve to be reviewed IMO.

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#21 Posted by Bucketdeth (8258 posts) -

This guy is jealous because his site will never become anything close to that of Giantbomb's or IGN or even Gamespot, so he points his anger towards fellow reviewers in which he should respect there opinions, I hope this fuck head STUBS HIS BIG TOE REAL HARD.

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#22 Posted by animateria (3341 posts) -

Man I had a laugh out of this thread title for some reason.

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#23 Edited by CaptainMax (224 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:
" I'm guessing he saw the Tony Hawk 3 review and saw the blond-dyed hair :P. "

I know right! They look like such douches in those videos. No offense to them.

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#24 Posted by EddieMD (30 posts) -
@jim_dandy said:
" You would think someone who titles themselves "Marketing Manager" would know better. 
Really.  I mean c'mon dude.  Have some freakin' tact.  I feel like Giantbomb are one of the few sites left that actually give reasonable reviews to actual gamers.
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#25 Posted by Seedofpower (4075 posts) -

Don't give him attention. That's what he wants. 
 
Just keep moving people.

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#26 Posted by FunExplosions (5534 posts) -

Wait so this guys name is Mike Dunn? Like from Viva La Bam? If so, then that would explain a lot.

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#27 Posted by Lautaro (454 posts) -

Umm this guy had his son interview Tony Hawk at the event where they played it. It may not necessarily mean hes biased or whatever, but he isnt making a strong case for himself by posting a picture of his kid with Tony Hawk. He also does not help his case by attacking another reviewer for having a different opinion,

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#28 Posted by qwicksilver (62 posts) -

Dude if he's got a problem with Jeff's negative review, then he's probably going to have a problem with lots of other respected sites out there.  I just saw the Game Trailers review and they frigging trash the game.

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#29 Posted by Osphere (209 posts) -
@Red said:
" I thought that user reviews weren't supposed to be counted on Metacritic.   HEY O! "

+1
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#30 Posted by eyehook (120 posts) -

First sentence: "Deck peripheral si incredibly sturdy and responsive"  SI?  Nice....
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#31 Posted by nick_verissimo (1460 posts) -

gaming trend?  what's that?...honestly, i've never heard of it until this forum post.

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#32 Posted by pause422 (6341 posts) -
@Chaser324 said:
" Apparently GamingTrends has the only valid reviews on the internet. Someone tell Metacritic so that they can stop listing the reviews from any other sites. "
This for sure. Honestly, what a fucking idiot..
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#33 Posted by Branthog (5777 posts) -

Never heard of it. Not really worth expanding the guy's non-existing credibility by even discussing this. Shocker -- random nobody douche-nozzle talks shit about established and credible guy. *gasp*!

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#34 Posted by FuzzYLemoN (1609 posts) -

Attacking other journalists really gets you nowhere, and ultimately just comes off as juvenile and unprofessional.

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#35 Posted by Andorski (5482 posts) -

If we are going to post this kind of crap... can we have the OP copy and paste the article so we don't give the website clicks.
 
All this calling out is just a sleazy move to get more page views.  "Developers having hardware issues with new consoles" doesn't get as much attention compared to "Infinity Ward claims that the PS3 doesn't have enough power to handle their engine."

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#36 Posted by NoXious (1365 posts) -

The last sentence shows he has no clue what he's talking about, and I doubt his opinion isn't biased because he went to the event with his skate-crazy son.

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#37 Edited by MattyFTM (14878 posts) -

Gaming Trend was one of the first sites to put up a review. And therefore I suspect he only played it at the 3 hour activision event that Jeff talked about on the bombcast. And anyone who'll review a game after only playing it for 3 hours at a marketing driven event has no right to call any other reviewer a douche. He put up the review to get traffic from metacritic because it would be one of the first reviews up, despite having not played the game properly. And now he's resorting to calling other reviewers douches to defend his review. Remind me to never ever visit Gaming Trend again.
 
EDIT: I read that forum thread a bit more, and the reviewer says this (in reply to a post linking to this gamespot article): 

We are aware of it, and had extensive deliberation. The fact of the matter is, we got about 10 hours of shared time with it and feel that is sufficient to judge the game. We are going to preface the review with the circumstances. 

"10 hours of shared time" seems to mean 10 hours between multiple people - it seems as though they did only play it for a few hours each at that activision event. So essentially he didn't play it properly, gave it an undeserving score and now is criticizing reviewers who took the time to see how bad it is before reviewing it. Either that, or he actually believes it is a good game. I don't know which is worse.
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#38 Posted by EvilTwin (3319 posts) -

This guy should be completely embarrassed.  He disagrees with Jeff's opinion, so not only does he question his integrity, but he resorts to childish fat jokes?  Give me a break. 

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#39 Posted by EvilTwin (3319 posts) -
@MattyFTM said:

"EDIT: I read that forum thread a bit more, and the reviewer says this (in reply to a post linking to this gamespot article): 

We are aware of it, and had extensive deliberation. The fact of the matter is, we got about 10 hours of shared time with it and feel that is sufficient to judge the game. We are going to preface the review with the circumstances. 

"10 hours of shared time" seems to mean 10 hours between multiple people - it seems as though they did only play it for a few hours each at that activision event. So essentially he didn't play it properly, gave it an undeserving score and now is criticizing reviewers who took the time to see how bad it is before reviewing it. Either that, or he actually believes it is a good game. I don't know which is worse. "
 Note: This review is the result of roughly ten hours of shared gaming time with five other people (including my son, Griffin) for the most part. I got to play every aspect of the game except for online multiplayer, and got to watch others play at difficulty levels significantly more than I can handle. While it is certainly not possible to experience every aspect of the game within this limited time-frame, I feel that I was able to play it enough to pass judgment on it. When we receive a full retail copy we will determine at that point if our assessment needs to be adjusted.
 
Taken straight from the review.
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#40 Edited by MattyFTM (14878 posts) -
@EvilTwin: Yeah, I noticed that just after I submitted my post. It is impossible to review a game like that. Anyone who thinks they can review a game like that is an idiot.
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#41 Posted by JohnnyMcmillen (159 posts) -

Oh son, "eggplant"? He's trying to say that he's playing the game wrong because he is overweight? Nice move on his part.

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#42 Edited by Binman88 (3700 posts) -

Never heard of them before this. The review itself is hilarious - he gave the controls a 98 out of 100. The board , to him, is just two points off being perfection-incarnate in a game controller.

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#43 Posted by PenguinDust (13064 posts) -
@Dethfish77 said:
" Eggplant? "
I don't know...the eggplants are pretty tough in my neighborhood.
 
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#44 Posted by deactivated-5b6c667dde711 (961 posts) -

Eh. Add to the above stuff about only ten hours of playing time shared, the post before his in the forum thread has two screenshots clearly depicting horrible clipping and physics glitches in the game, yet he goes ahead and gives the gameplay 95.
 
Yeah yeah, don't give the guy attention, I know. I'm not going to sign up at his site or anything, but sometimes you just have to wonder what some people are thinking when they dive into this industry with these mentalities towards reviews. Talk about treating your reader poorly if you're willing to put up a "review" like that riddled with typos and based off a few hours of playing and a few hours of watching others. Hey, maybe I should start writing reviews where the basis of my experience with the game is just watching promotional gameplay videos and trailers. That would increase productivity a hundred-fold!

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#45 Posted by Kibblez (774 posts) -

I'd argue that Jeff knows his Tony Hawk games probably better than any game critic, so I just trust his his opinion over some random reviewer's anyday

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#46 Edited by Kohe321 (3569 posts) -

Why does he insult another reviewer for not liking it? He sounds like he wants to protect it likes it's a family member, but judging from the way he felt about that deck controller, who can say he hasn't married it already.

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#47 Posted by CharlesAlanRatliff (5737 posts) -

I have never heard of this Gaming Trend site.
 
That says a lot for someone like myself who works from home and is on the Internet almost all day. Either way, apparently they don't know how to review games properly and like to insult those that actually put in the proper amount of time needed to make a final judgment for a game. That is enough for me to know I never need to go there. Integrity is everything in the reviewing business, and he has just showed he doesn't have any. This makes it pointless for anyone to read their reviews.

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#48 Posted by gingertastic_10 (4314 posts) -

Yeah, because Gaming Trend is where I go for all my gaming news and reviews... I've never heard of that guy or the site, he has no right to dis Jeff.

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#49 Posted by Herreno (338 posts) -

Tony Hawk Ride is clearly a failure just from watching the quick look everyone could see that. This guy is entitled to his opinion, however childish the childish name calling is uncalled for.

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#50 Posted by Karmum (11515 posts) -

Well, no offense Gaming Trend, but most websites didn't think RIDE was too hot. I'd like that "administrator" to call all of them douches, too. Not the best way to comment on another journalist.