@iAmJohn said:
@martyarf said:
@patrickklepek: You don't remember what you said on the podcast? You and Jeff went to painstaking lengths to explain the "culture" of the FGC, eager to place the rape threats in "context". You don't remember Brad saying something to the effect of "You guys are nuts, this guy is a fucking psycho"?
I do remember this and you're way misrepresenting it. They gave the context to establish the argument from certain sects of that community; Brad then made that point and they completely agreed with him. If you think that's acknowledging that there's more to it than solely being sexist but that doesn't stop it from being obscenely sexist and wrong is excusing it, I really don't know what to tell you.
Well, I was curious and looked it up, so lets put Patrick's comments back "in context"! Around 1hr35 on the 03/22/2012 podcast.
Jeff: "It's one of those things where I kind of understand where [Aris] is coming from to a point."
Patrick: "Right."
Jeff: "I don't think anyone in that crowd is intending for Pheonix to be raped."
Patrick: "Right."
[Note: this is fucking way out of line, and is a common diversion tactic to ask us to consider NOT the victims feelings, but the perpetrators intent, which really has no relevance here.]
...
Jeff: "You take it back to those roots of you're really getting in someone's ass fighting them, just talking as much shit as you can."
Patrick: "You want them to feel bad. Fighting games are as much a psychological game as it is the actual game that is playing out."
[Note: What the fuck?]
...
Patrick: "When you step back and think 'did I mean that?', no."
Jeff: "But in context it's probably okay."
Patrick: "Right."
[Note: Are you fucking kidding me? Rape threats are okay "in context"? Try telling that to someone who was raped.]
...
Patrick then goes on to hypothesize that this is all about "core tension" because of losing your community (how he knows this, I do not now) and expresses anger that he has to "articulate this guys argument better than him" (why this is necessary, I don't know - and notice, he is making a completely new argument, he is supporting the sexism in his own way).
Then, Brad comes in as the voice of reason:
"I think you guys are giving that guy way too much credit. I think that guy is a lunatic and his statements are pretty reprehensible."
Patrick and Jeff then backtrack and try to explain why the felt the need to excuse his statements.
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