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Gears of War 2 MP is UNPLAYABLE which means NOT FUN!!

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Edited By EnterpriseE

I don't understand how these so called "Reviewers" of this game claim that this is the best MP experience when you have so many freakin problems while playing it. Sure Single Player had bugs but not as bad as these.

First off WTF is with the match making system? Is it suppose to take 10 20mins to find people to play aganist and don't give me that bull about just invite your freinds because it is nothing more than ring around than a fix.

Second, is it just me are all the games i played on gears of war 2 are laggy to holy craptistic lag. This goes for all game modes and it is even worst on Annex, King of the Hill, and Submission. I mean this is what WE pay for right? 60 + 50 = 90 So for 90 dollars this is what we get out the gate? How can R2 handle no lag with 60 players but Gears of War 2 can't handle 10? How can call of duty 4 handle 16 players and Gears of War 2 can't do 10? EPIC you need to get on your job or at least let people know you are working on this problem because you can make all the balance changes you want but if it lags then NOBODY IS  GOING TO PLAY THIS CRAP.

 Third, CHAINSAW CHAINSAW CHAINSAW!!! WTF did you guys do Epic? I understand you needed bump up that gun from Gears of War 1 but what you guys did was took it from a balance level to god like level. In the first game you can easly stop someone from chainsawing buy just shooting at them but now since you added this stopping power BS people just run up to an chainsaw. Never mind the fact they been getting shot the hole time with a DAMN SHOTGUN. Oh the shotgun that you guys wonderfully nerfed to the point where the gun has no balls whats so ever. Tell me this if you are shooting your shotgun with there back turned point blank range and all it does it is just causes him to just flench? Is that balance? How about you got the upper hand your reticle is red you are shooting him dead on yet it is taking almost a whole clip to just down the person? Is that balance? 

Fourth, Either take smokes/stun which should be called stun grenade because I never heard of smoke knocking you on your ass like that. But the point is either take smokes out or fix that bug where you get hit and you pop up in the sky out of the map. Or my personal favorite smoke hits you while under a bridge and next thing you know you or on top the bridge. Yeah awesome right no. 

Now some people are going to say that whining and learn how to play noob. But i got something for you people. F. U. Anyone that says nothing wrong with the MP is  probably playing private matches only because you wouldn't say that if you went thu match making. Hell it is so bad I rather play Metal Gear Online. At least I can tell which one is lagging and act accordingly. 

PLEASE EPIC FIX THIS OR YOU ARE GOING ALOT OF YOUR FANBASE WHO BOUGHT THIS GAME FOR MP SINCE THAT IS THE ONLY THING HOLDING IT TOGETHER. 

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#1  Edited By EnterpriseE

I don't understand how these so called "Reviewers" of this game claim that this is the best MP experience when you have so many freakin problems while playing it. Sure Single Player had bugs but not as bad as these.

First off WTF is with the match making system? Is it suppose to take 10 20mins to find people to play aganist and don't give me that bull about just invite your freinds because it is nothing more than ring around than a fix.

Second, is it just me are all the games i played on gears of war 2 are laggy to holy craptistic lag. This goes for all game modes and it is even worst on Annex, King of the Hill, and Submission. I mean this is what WE pay for right? 60 + 50 = 90 So for 90 dollars this is what we get out the gate? How can R2 handle no lag with 60 players but Gears of War 2 can't handle 10? How can call of duty 4 handle 16 players and Gears of War 2 can't do 10? EPIC you need to get on your job or at least let people know you are working on this problem because you can make all the balance changes you want but if it lags then NOBODY IS  GOING TO PLAY THIS CRAP.

 Third, CHAINSAW CHAINSAW CHAINSAW!!! WTF did you guys do Epic? I understand you needed bump up that gun from Gears of War 1 but what you guys did was took it from a balance level to god like level. In the first game you can easly stop someone from chainsawing buy just shooting at them but now since you added this stopping power BS people just run up to an chainsaw. Never mind the fact they been getting shot the hole time with a DAMN SHOTGUN. Oh the shotgun that you guys wonderfully nerfed to the point where the gun has no balls whats so ever. Tell me this if you are shooting your shotgun with there back turned point blank range and all it does it is just causes him to just flench? Is that balance? How about you got the upper hand your reticle is red you are shooting him dead on yet it is taking almost a whole clip to just down the person? Is that balance? 

Fourth, Either take smokes/stun which should be called stun grenade because I never heard of smoke knocking you on your ass like that. But the point is either take smokes out or fix that bug where you get hit and you pop up in the sky out of the map. Or my personal favorite smoke hits you while under a bridge and next thing you know you or on top the bridge. Yeah awesome right no. 

Now some people are going to say that whining and learn how to play noob. But i got something for you people. F. U. Anyone that says nothing wrong with the MP is  probably playing private matches only because you wouldn't say that if you went thu match making. Hell it is so bad I rather play Metal Gear Online. At least I can tell which one is lagging and act accordingly. 

PLEASE EPIC FIX THIS OR YOU ARE GOING ALOT OF YOUR FANBASE WHO BOUGHT THIS GAME FOR MP SINCE THAT IS THE ONLY THING HOLDING IT TOGETHER. 

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#2  Edited By Warfare

I agree with you.

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#3  Edited By brukaoru

I only play private matches because I really don't like the idea of playing with random strangers and I don't think it would be nearly as fun either. I can see where the frustration is if you want to play public matches, but honestly, I love Gears so much I would buy the game even if it only had a single-player campaign. That's just me though.

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#4  Edited By Vinchenzo

Actually the game is very playable. Lag is annoying and does happen, but it's not in every game just occasionally. Matchmaking sucks indeed, smoke is a questionable design choice, and chainsaw needs to be nerfed. All of this does not equal "unplayable." If that's what you think, go try out The Darkness' MP.

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#5  Edited By mordecaix7
Vinchenzo said:
"Actually the game is very playable. Lag is annoying and does happen, but it's not in every game just occasionally. Matchmaking sucks indeed, smoke is a questionable design choice, and chainsaw needs to be nerfed. All of this does not equal "unplayable." If that's what you think, go try out The Darkness' MP."
I agree with everything you said Vinchenzo.  I have so much fun playing MP in Gears 2.  Sometimes I feel like I get screwed but the majority of the time, it's usually my fault for doing something stupid.

Oh and the lag you're talking about?  See how much bandwidth you have available on your connection.  If anyone else is on the computer at the time, that could also cause some hiccups in your connection as well.  I've got a decent 1.5 mpbs connection and it works just fine. 

Matchmaking time will decrease if you get a full 5 member party because the system then only has to look for enemies for you to fight.

Oh yeah and learn to play noob ;)  j/k
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#6  Edited By Psynapse

- Lag happens in any game, most of the time in GOW2 its pretty good though
- The chainsaw is stoppable, trust me
- The matchmaking system does suck
- Shotguns are underpowered, it seems to be sporadic and i think lag effects the power of it (i.e. you think you hit them in the head, but because of some lag it doesn't register correctly.
- Stun Grenades are ok, everyone has them so it doesn't really make it unfair or anything like that. The smoke should stay around for longer though.

You have alot of valid points, but whinging like a 10 year old will get you nowhere. Epic have already said that they are working on a fix for the matchmaking system, balancing will happen... Be patient my friend.

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#7  Edited By EnterpriseE

@Vinchenzo:  I am sorry but this might come off as a little mean but ARE YOU KIDDING ME with the "Check my Connections" or "Make sure no one else is using the internet". BS!!! Pal you think i don't already know this all ready. You think i was born yesterday and the first game i played on Xbox live was Gears 2? Come on man. Am i that stupid? As i said before I am sorry if that comes off mean and you are just trying to help me out. I understand but don't come here insulting my  intellect with that kind of comment.

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#8  Edited By Vinchenzo
EnterpriseE said:
"@Vinchenzo:  I am sorry but this might come off as a little mean but ARE YOU KIDDING ME with the "Check my Connections" or "Make sure no one else is using the internet". BS!!! Pal you think i don't already know this all ready. You think i was born yesterday and the first game i played on Xbox live was Gears 2? Come on man. Am i that stupid? As i said before I am sorry if that comes off mean and you are just trying to help me out. I understand but don't come here insulting my  intellect with that kind of comment.
"
Speaking about intellect, I never mentioned anything was wrong with your connection. Way to make yourself look like a complete douche.
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#9  Edited By EnterpriseE

@ Psynapse: I hear ya but you know what. I paid and so did you  and about 2 million others paid for a COMPLETE game. Now I understand sometimes you can't help it that bugs happen. Now I played thru Gears 2 and thought it was a decent game not this huge revoluntary step some are claming. But if what it takes is to screem like a 10 year old girl to get them to do the right thing. Then I will contiune to screem. I will contiune to screem till they release something other than " we are working on the problem".

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#10  Edited By EnterpriseE

Oh and the lag you're talking about?  See how much bandwidth you have available on your connection.  If anyone else is on the computer at the time, that could also cause some hiccups in your connection as well.  I've got a decent 1.5 mpbs connection and it works just fine.


Oh you mean this line. Yeah i thought so.
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#11  Edited By Vinchenzo
EnterpriseE said:
"
Oh and the lag you're talking about?  See how much bandwidth you have available on your connection.  If anyone else is on the computer at the time, that could also cause some hiccups in your connection as well.  I've got a decent 1.5 mpbs connection and it works just fine.


Oh you mean this line. Yeah i thought so."
Your intelligence runs so thin.
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#12  Edited By shotaro
EnterpriseE said:
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Oh and the lag you're talking about?  See how much bandwidth you have available on your connection.  If anyone else is on the computer at the time, that could also cause some hiccups in your connection as well.  I've got a decent 1.5 mpbs connection and it works just fine.


Oh you mean this line. Yeah i thought so."
.....

Epic Fail?
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#13  Edited By GweedyJ

for some one not wanting EnterpriseE said:

"@ Psynapse: I hear ya but you know what. I paid and so did you  and about 2 million others paid for a COMPLETE game. Now I understand sometimes you can't help it that bugs happen. Now I played thru Gears 2 and thought it was a decent game not this huge revoluntary step some are claming. But if what it takes is to screem like a 10 year old girl to get them to do the right thing. Then I will contiune to screem. I will contiune to screem till they release something other than " we are working on the problem"."
For a person who does not want their intellect insulted you sure spell bad. Not to sound like a grammar nazi or anything but dont yell at others for making you look stupid when ya type like your four.
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#14  Edited By EnterpriseE

Thanks I will remember that. How is that you have nothing to add to this but still find the time to correct me.

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#15  Edited By Vinchenzo
EnterpriseE said:
"Thanks I will remember that. How is that you have nothing to add to this but still find the time to correct me."
Because you won't admit you are wrong.
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#16  Edited By mordecaix7
Shotaro said:
"EnterpriseE said:
"
Oh and the lag you're talking about?  See how much bandwidth you have available on your connection.  If anyone else is on the computer at the time, that could also cause some hiccups in your connection as well.  I've got a decent 1.5 mpbs connection and it works just fine.


Oh you mean this line. Yeah i thought so."
.....

Epic Fail?"
Epic Fail indeed.

Vinchenzo
said:
"EnterpriseE said:
"Thanks I will remember that. How is that you have nothing to add to this but still find the time to correct me."
Because you won't admit you are wrong."
And very true.  If I keep posting like this, maybe my posts will stay under the radar ;)  Obviously Shotaro and Vinchenzo said everything in this post... everything.  They're names are at the top in bold right?
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#17  Edited By EnterpriseE

What that i spell a couple of words wrong? Yeah ok you got me. Now what? Still doesn't change the fact that this game is broken for MOST people. I am not going to say all people because as some you pointed out already have no lag with the game.

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#18  Edited By mordecaix7
EnterpriseE said:
"What that i spell a couple of words wrong? Yeah ok you got me. Now what? Still doesn't change the fact that this game is broken for MOSTpeople. I am not going to say all people because as some you pointed out already have no lag with the game."
Can you actually confirm it's most people with hard numbers?  No.  Same way we can't confirm there is no lag at all.  Every connection in every game is different.  One person can be the cause of lag and it could be multiple people with bad connections. 

Did I just post as you?  o_0  I seem to be posting as other people....
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#19  Edited By EnterpriseE

LOL!!! I don't know. I am still trying to get use to GB system. After using GS posting system for so long i have to relearn where everything is at here.

I don't have hard numbers but I do have tons of forums threads on the main Epic Games Forums. Here I will provide proof.  HEre is a couple of vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbF9EGBj_xo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2veNlebMiw

That is just for starters here is the main Gears of War 2 Forums.  http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356

It doubt every last one those threads a just people making stuff up. Check it out yourself.

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#20  Edited By Icil
EnterpriseE said:
"(snipped)

That is just for starters here is the main Gears of War 2 Forums.  http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356

It doubt every last one those threads a just people making stuff up. Check it out yourself."
I doubt that, too, but I think that the amount they exaggerate is way too high. And from the looks of it, everyone there hates chainsaw and smokes but loves shotguns. If you love shotguns, it's a no-brainer that you will hate its counters.
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#21  Edited By keyhunter

Idiot.

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#22  Edited By Psynapse

Say if 10000 people are complaining about the game.. 2milllion copies got moved on launch day??

That means something like 0.005% of people are actively complaining about the game. (Obviously not raw data and a total guess :P)

Like i said i'm not saying it doesn't have issues, and you are clearly mis-informed if you want to rant and rave... Check the www.gearsofwar.com forums first, there have been mods saying that they are working to fix alot of the issues that people have reported.

Coming from a support background i know that kicking and screaming gets you nowhere. If you don't like the game then perhaps you should have waited until everyone got their copies and have complained... I bet you still would have bought the game anyway.

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#23  Edited By bjorno

get off of AOL dail-up and stop-sucking.

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#24  Edited By AndrewGaspar
Psynapse said:
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Say if 10000 people are complaining about the game.. 2milllion copies got moved on launch day??

That means something like 0.005% of people are actively complaining about the game. (Obviously not raw data and a total guess :P)

"
Haven't you seen Family Guy? One complaint is equal to one million people. So actually, ten BILLION people are complaining about Gears of War 2. ;-)
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#25  Edited By Psynapse
AndrewGaspar said:
"Psynapse said:
"

Say if 10000 people are complaining about the game.. 2milllion copies got moved on launch day??

That means something like 0.005% of people are actively complaining about the game. (Obviously not raw data and a total guess :P)

"
Haven't you seen Family Guy? One complaint is equal to one million people. So actually, ten BILLION people are complaining about Gears of War 2. ;-)"
Hahahaha, touche salesmen, touche...
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#26  Edited By Bulldog19892
EnterpriseE said:
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Oh and the lag you're talking about?  See how much bandwidth you have available on your connection.  If anyone else is on the computer at the time, that could also cause some hiccups in your connection as well.  I've got a decent 1.5 mpbs connection and it works just fine.


Oh you mean this line. Yeah i thought so."
Vinchenzo didn't say that. Someone else did, go back and read it again.
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#27  Edited By daniel_beck_90
Warfare said:
"I agree with you."
I do not agree with you
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#28  Edited By Discorsi
daniel_beck_90 said:
"Warfare said:
"I agree with you."
I do not agree with you"
I agree with you
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Discorsi said:
"daniel_beck_90 said:
"Warfare said:
"I agree with you."
I do not agree with you"
I agree with you"
I do not agree with you.
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#30  Edited By siLVUR

It's an epic experience because the chance you do get to be in a match is unforgettable until you realize how long it'll take to get in again.

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#31  Edited By Bulldog19892
Sir_Ragnarok said:
"Discorsi said:
"daniel_beck_90 said:
"Warfare said:
"I agree with you."
I do not agree with you"
I agree with you"
I do not agree with you."
I agree with you.
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#32  Edited By TheGTAvaccine

I agree that the wait time for getting into a game alone is ridiculous. Actually, that game is rubbish IMO because my game is not allowing me to load from where I am in the story, nor is it letting me start a new game. Thank jeebus I only rented it, or I'd be bullshit.