It's the only co-op game I played so it's the only one I can put. I'm also counting split-screen multiplayer as co-op and I've had a ton of fun with that. "
I cannot believe that they forgot about god of war 3 when talking about best looking game. I mean even if it didn't win, technically it looks much better than nfs: hot pursuit, and I dont know how they could forget it.
" I cannot believe that they forgot about god of war 3 when talking about best looking game. I mean even if it didn't win, technically it looks much better than nfs: hot pursuit, and I dont know how they could forget it. "
I really think they knew Kirby would win, so they just took Limbo and a random game. Seriously, the same was last year - they've completely ignored Killzone 2.
" I really wanted to punch Brad in the face during the add-on debate. For me the term "add-on" implies that that the content actually adds on to the overall package of the game, Shadow Broker does this and expands the universe, while Minerva's Den is a self contained package that does not connect to the game's overall story. "
Geez, you are are a violent fella. Without knowing what Brad said about add-ons I'll say: "Downloadable add-on" is just a term to distinguish those expansions from downloadable stand-alone games and to separate it from smaller downloadable content. So what you think "add-on" implies or not - doesn't really add in.
Also, in my humble opinion, I would say you are wrong about Minerva's Den not fitting the bill. It actually adds more gameplay hours and while perhaps self contained, it also expands the Bioshock universe, perhaps not to the original game itself, but in it's small kind of way.
I'll just say I've been playing Halo from the beginning and Reach is the only one I've ever traded in.
The obvious problem with this (that not even the crew would deny) is that they just don't have enough time to figure out the quality of the multiplayer. One example of this is when a review for BioShock 2 (before the game is even in stores) says the multiplayer isn't hopelessly broken.
That's not Jeff's fault or anything...but it's still kind of a bummer. Honestly this was a weak year for the 360, and it's a shame Alan Wake wasn't remembered in a better light.
I've always liked Brad but he is digging his heels into the dirt a little too much in these deliberations. Not coming off likable AT ALL. One of the things I like about GB is they realize that their opinions are opinions. Brad spends too much time trying to convince everyone that his opinions are facts.
Why would it get mentioned? Its not a technical award that Kirby got but an artistic award. GOW3 looks great technicaly but its not even close to as good looking as Kirby, Limbo and NFS:HP. GOW3 is artisticly as generic as you can get.
Why would it get mentioned? Its not a technical award that Kirby got but an artistic award. GOW3 looks great technicaly but its not even close to as good looking as Kirby, Limbo and NFS:HP. GOW3 is artisticly as generic as you can get. "
i didn't say it should win out right, but you can at least pit it against NFS, and if GOW is generic so is a racing game. i just think is dumb that the words "god of war 3" are not even mentioned once during the podcast
Why would it get mentioned? Its not a technical award that Kirby got but an artistic award. GOW3 looks great technicaly but its not even close to as good looking as Kirby, Limbo and NFS:HP. GOW3 is artisticly as generic as you can get. "
No, it's a good looking award, and God of War 3 looks damn good. Better than Need for Speed personally for me. Seems like they just forgot about it, which is odd. But its not a big deal, Kirby is a fine winner.
Kirby's Epic Yarn is a fair choice for best looking game overall, but Hot Pursuit as a runner up? Really? And no mention of the PC version of Metro 2033 which had technical graphics rivaling Crysis and a phenomenally cogent atmosphere, and is easily one of the best looking games ever released from both technical and artistic perspectives?
Clearly nobody there is informed enough about the PC platform to make the obvious decision to give Metro at least a nod, so why even have a Best PC Game category? Apparently GB's PC coverage simply amounts to one staff member playing Starcraft II (zero surprise it won that category btw).
Not to mention Best Downloadable could've gone to countless indie titles but rather they chose the billionth Pac-Man rehash with graphics copied from Geometry Wars >.>
If you guys aren't even going to try on the PC front could you at least label yourself a console site? I mean, Gamespot, IGN and Gametrailers are equally incompetent when it comes to PC gaming, but they're, you know, them. You can be more upfront about your lack of knowledge and your members would still love you I imagine.
" Kirby's Epic Yarn is a fair choice for best looking game overall, but Hot Pursuit as a runner up? Really? And no mention of the PC version of Metro 2033 which had technical graphics rivaling Crysis and a phenomenally cogent atmosphere, and is easily one of the best looking games ever released from both technical and artistic perspectives?
Clearly nobody there is informed enough about the PC platform to make the obvious decision to give Metro at least a nod, so why even have a Best PC Game category? Apparently GB's PC coverage simply amounts to one staff member playing Starcraft II (zero surprise it won that category btw).
Not to mention Best Downloadable could've gone to countless indie titles but rather they chose the billionth Pac-Man rehash with graphics copied from Geometry Wars >.>
they all played SC2 except for Ryan, and countless indie titles? like what? They all really loved pacman.
Got a question about the "Best-Looking Game" category. If it's the re-named "Best Graphics" category how come neither Mass Effect 2 or God of War III were even mentioned? I mean clearly those are the 2 "Best looking games" of the year, maybe not in terms of style, but I don't think anyone could argue with the fact they had some of the most jaw dropping visuals this year. They should have got a mention IMO.
" Got a question about the "Best-Looking Game" category. If it's the re-named "Best Graphics" category how come neither Mass Effect 2 or God of War III were even mentioned? I mean clearly those are the 2 "Best looking games" of the year, maybe not in terms of style, but I don't think anyone could argue with the fact they had some of the most jaw dropping visuals this year. They should have got a mention IMO. "
It's obviously not just a replacement for best graphics, but is awarding based on artistic merit.
Too bad none of the staffers are from Texas. If any were they would agree that Red Dead Redemption looks identical to the actual area it represents. And Metro 2033 is the best looking game since Crysis.
The overabundance of Limbo makes it difficult to take anything about this seriously. NFS in the graphics category just shows they're not even trying any more.
" Kirby's Epic Yarn is a fair choice for best looking game overall, but Hot Pursuit as a runner up? Really? And no mention of the PC version of Metro 2033 which had technical graphics rivaling Crysis and a phenomenally cogent atmosphere, and is easily one of the best looking games ever released from both technical and artistic perspectives?
Clearly nobody there is informed enough about the PC platform to make the obvious decision to give Metro at least a nod, so why even have a Best PC Game category? Apparently GB's PC coverage simply amounts to one staff member playing Starcraft II (zero surprise it won that category btw).
Not to mention Best Downloadable could've gone to countless indie titles but rather they chose the billionth Pac-Man rehash with graphics copied from Geometry Wars >.>
If you guys aren't even going to try on the PC front could you at least label yourself a console site? I mean, Gamespot, IGN and Gametrailers are equally incompetent when it comes to PC gaming, but they're, you know, them. You can be more upfront about your lack of knowledge and your members would still love you I imagine. "
I think calling DX a rehash is unfair, but I haven't played it so I can't really comment. However I have played Metro (and I was lucky enough to have a PC which can run it on max) and while it is technically impressive I would still agree with the GB team, Kirby is just nicer to look at. I'm glad that something bright and colorful won, the constant march of technology is seemingly only creating better shades of brown.
Why would it get mentioned? Its not a technical award that Kirby got but an artistic award. GOW3 looks great technicaly but its not even close to as good looking as Kirby, Limbo and NFS:HP. GOW3 is artisticly as generic as you can get. "
No, it's a good looking award, and God of War 3 looks damn good. Better than Need for Speed personally for me. Seems like they just forgot about it, which is odd. But its not a big deal, Kirby is a fine winner. "
I it includes the technical part(the only good thing about GOW3 when it comes to the visuals) and not only an artistic award then where is Heavy Rain? Heavy Rain is a technical achievement so if its not the winner then its obviously not a graphics award but an artistic one. I for one dont think NFS HP is a technicaly good looking game but the enviroments, lighting and other effects are really stunning.
Why would it get mentioned? Its not a technical award that Kirby got but an artistic award. GOW3 looks great technicaly but its not even close to as good looking as Kirby, Limbo and NFS:HP. GOW3 is artisticly as generic as you can get. "
No, it's a good looking award, and God of War 3 looks damn good. Better than Need for Speed personally for me. Seems like they just forgot about it, which is odd. But its not a big deal, Kirby is a fine winner. "
I it includes the technical part(the only good thing about GOW3 when it comes to the visuals) and not only an artistic award then where is Heavy Rain? Heavy Rain is a technical achievement so if its not the winner then its obviously not a graphics award but an artistic one.I for one dont think NFS HP is a technicaly good looking game but the enviroments, lighting and other effects are really stunning. "
Jeff states in the bombcast "This is our renamed best graphics category". Which they renamed so they could add in the artistic games as well as the technical games (im guessing). They even mention in the bombcast why Heavy Rain doesn't get a spot in the final 3.
" Kirby's Epic Yarn is a fair choice for best looking game overall, but Hot Pursuit as a runner up? Really? And no mention of the PC version of Metro 2033 which had technical graphics rivaling Crysis and a phenomenally cogent atmosphere, and is easily one of the best looking games ever released from both technical and artistic perspectives?
Clearly nobody there is informed enough about the PC platform to make the obvious decision to give Metro at least a nod, so why even have a Best PC Game category? Apparently GB's PC coverage simply amounts to one staff member playing Starcraft II (zero surprise it won that category btw).
Not to mention Best Downloadable could've gone to countless indie titles but rather they chose the billionth Pac-Man rehash with graphics copied from Geometry Wars >.>
they all played SC2 except for Ryan, and countless indie titles? like what? They all really loved pacman. "
Super Meat Boy, Chime, Recettear, Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Puzzle Agent, NyxQuest: Kindred Spirits, Spectromancer: League of Heroes, Clones, Machinarium...those are just the indie PC games I can think off the top of my head. Notably Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light wasn't mentioned either, and that game more than any other has been the "surprise GOTY" for people from what I hear (though it's not an indie game, the category was for downloadables).
Game of the Year lists are so overplayed. How about instead of making tiers for people to argue about and make contention over in the comments section were have a "Recommendations of the Year".
Ohhh no they mentioned a Wii game and a 360 game in 'best looking', here comes the PC Ragnars in a shitstorm frenzy.
Ohh no they forgot to bring up God of War III let's get in a frenzy about that.
Recommendations of the Year, how about it folks, who is for doing that next year instead of Game of the Year?
Wow, I really need to listen to today's podcast to see how they arrived at some of these conclusions. Some of these choices are ridiculous, even by GB standards.
I'm glad that something bright and colorful won, the constant march of technology is seemingly only creating better shades of brown. "
Something bright and colorful always win best art awards, I'm frankly sick of it. It's like people have never walked into a museum or art gallery before. News flash: not all art has to be cartoony or colorful; the stylized and detailed depiction of real life or a fictionalized version of real life is equally artistic.
Kirby's Epic Yarn is fine this time around - it's art style is actually markedly different and it also weaves it into gameplay (ha, get it?). My problem is that if KEY weren't released this year, Limbo would've probably won. Neither are bad looking games, but it panders to the fallacious idea that art in games must be either abstract or cartoony, it whiffs of insecurity and ignorance.
" Wow, I really need to listen to today's podcast to see how they arrived at some of these conclusions. Some of these choices are ridiculous, even by GB standards. "
Well seeing as how on Day Ones podcast they clearly without reservation gave "Best New Character" to Mordin from ME2 yet on the write up and video recap it went to Bayonetta..... Don't expect much clarity from the Bombcast
An hour on Minerva's Den vs Shadow Broker. And Brad strong armed his way tot he victory. Too bad it left him too drained to fight for Limbo in any of the other categories. Especially as Ryan seemed willing to back him up if he tried to fight.
I'm so confused. Listening to the 'cast and it seems like Brad's the only one liking Minerva's Den, the rest of the guys are just telling him to shut up... yet it won in this list? What?
I would have loved to see Cave Story as a nominee for Best Download-Only Game. While I'm well aware that it was originally released in 2004, the enhanced WiiWare port seems to be the definite version of the game.
" I'm so confused. Listening to the 'cast and it seems like Brad's the only one liking Minerva's Den, the rest of the guys are just telling him to shut up... yet it won in this list? What? "
I love the fact when they're talking about best downloadable game Brad says something along the lines of "50% of Giant Bomb is of the opinion that Limbo is the best downloadable game". so I guess when 75% of Giant Bomb was of the opinion that ME2 had the better DLC it didn't matter tho lol
" I'm so confused. Listening to the 'cast and it seems like Brad's the only one liking Minerva's Den, the rest of the guys are just telling him to shut up... yet it won in this list? What? "
I love the fact when they're talking about best downloadable game Brad says something along the lines of "50% of Giant Bomb is of the opinion that Limbo is the best downloadable game". so I guess when 75% of Giant Bomb was of the opinion that ME2 had the better DLC it didn't matter tho lol "
Yeah, Brad's kind of annoying this year. Yesterday he was hypocritical, using stats to support one argument then ignoring it to support another, and today he's just being a stubborn child with the argument of "But I liiiiiike it." I normally like Brad but... damn.
Jeff's irrational Limbo hate was kinda worse, though.
" I'm so confused. Listening to the 'cast and it seems like Brad's the only one liking Minerva's Den, the rest of the guys are just telling him to shut up... yet it won in this list? What? "
I love the fact when they're talking about best downloadable game Brad says something along the lines of "50% of Giant Bomb is of the opinion that Limbo is the best downloadable game". so I guess when 75% of Giant Bomb was of the opinion that ME2 had the better DLC it didn't matter tho lol "
Yeah, Brad's kind of annoying this year. Yesterday he was hypocritical, using stats to support one argument then ignoring it to support another, and today he's just being a stubborn child with the argument of "But I liiiiiike it." I normally like Brad but... damn. Jeff's irrational Limbo hate was kinda worse, though. "
i liked how all the arguments Brad used against Shadow Broker was also completely applicable to Minerva's Den. I'm getting the distinct impression they just gave it to Minerva's Den so Brad would shut up. :|
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