Have you ever played ICO? If you did, you're a misogynist.

@TeflonBilly said:

Any opinion of this horrible woman should be taken as seriously as religious fundementalists like members of Al-Queda or the Westboro Baptist Church. She is a terrible human being.

nope (she did not actually say what the OP said in the thread title you know) also westboro baptist church literally pickets funerals and al queda literally commits terrorist acts she just makes (stupid, in your opinion) videos, get the fuck over it.

edit; oh HAHA I GET IT THREATENING HER WITH VIOLENCE IS SURELY THE ANSWER

@Animasta said:

@TeflonBilly said:

Any opinion of this horrible woman should be taken as seriously as religious fundementalists like members of Al-Queda or the Westboro Baptist Church. She is a terrible human being.

nope (she did not actually say what the OP said in the thread title you know) also westboro baptist church literally pickets funerals and al queda literally commits terrorist acts she just makes (stupid, in your opinion) videos, get the fuck over it.

edit; oh HAHA I GET IT THREATENING HER WITH VIOLENCE IS SURELY THE ANSWER

Nope, I've seen several of her videos and her attitude reminds me of the Nazis burning books that didn't gel with their world view. She has a terrible way of getting her points across and a narrow view of everything that borders on religious overzealousness. The fact that there are people validating her way of presenting "facts" worries me and paints a bad picture of everybody who may define themselves as feminist. I fear she may hurt the movement as much as Andrea Dworkin.

AND YES THAT WAS BLACK HUMOR WHEN I MADE A JOKE ABOUT COCKING A GUN, YA DAFT THICKHEAD!

@TeflonBilly said:

Any opinion of this horrible woman should be taken as seriously as religious fundementalists like members of Al-Queda or the Westboro Baptist Church. She is a terrible human being.

nope (she did not actually say what the OP said in the thread title you know) also westboro baptist church literally pickets funerals and al queda literally commits terrorist acts she just makes (stupid, in your opinion) videos, get the fuck over it.

This is a great thread you guys. Let's keep this discussion going.

@TeflonBilly: now you're calling her a nazi, this is great

I don't even fucking agree with her on everything. She has points, sometimes she doesn't, sometimes she overreacts, but literally comparing her to nazis and people that strap bombs to people's chest and people that picket funerals of dead army members is both offensive to her, offensive to people that have been affected by these horrid groups, and offensive to anyone with a brain

I'm being hyperbolic to point out how she is being poisonous to the community she's trying to champion by acting the way she does.

Pretty well made huh? It gets it's points across calm and rationally without once using a c-word, b-word or any other horrid expletitive which Sarkeesian and her minions in the games press have made it out that anybody who dared take issue with her methods use at least three times per sentence.

I can imagine how being a level headed and intelligent feminist who has to deal with this charlatan becoming the online face of them must begin to feel like how all member of the FGC felt when Patrick, Kotaku and the rest of the games news media made Aris the face of the whole community.

It's like if all wrestling fans had to have this guy be the representative trotted out when it was discussed.

Or how about the My Little Pony fanbase being represented with nothing but this guy

Or better yet, all Sonic fans (Hell video game fans in general, being represented by Christian Weston Chandler)

If she aspires to be THE face of feminism online, she really has to be a lot more informed, a lot more inclusive, a lot more honest and able to take criticism without painting her detractors as immediate mysoginisic villans frothing at the mouth, cause this dog and pony show she's trotted out for years has just been a small series of imo poorly made videos. Now that she's milked the internet for as much sympathy and money as she could muster, she's in a whole different ballpark. Now she has the potential to either completely discredit the point she is trying to make or actually make a change and become the champion of a wave of feminism (A wave that hit quite the stumbling block when a REAL and educated feminist had the balls to question if women "really could have it all" and sparked an amazing debate). Personally, I've found Sarkeesian to be an uninformed annoyance at best with her "exposes" over the years, but with the drama, money and TRIGGER WARNINGS everywhere now, she's under a microscope and we're looking at a possible successor to the KONY guy.

Personally, I am very excited to see what she has to offer, because there is no doubt an issue in video game culture about the role of females that needs to be examined. But if it's gonna be in the vein of her previous video series mixed with her hypocritical ways of dealing with anything close to criticism, I see nothing but a huge disservice incoming.

I generally disagree with her (and i also feel that the amount of money she raised on kickstarter was fucking ludicrous), as I feel I probably would with many radical sex-negative feminists, but I also feel like holy shit the hate machine has been chugging on this one for a while, now.

@TeflonBilly: you still literally compared her to a nazi and to al queda and to westboro.

like, fullstop, how can I take anything you say seriously?

@Animasta said:

you still literally compared her to a nazi and to al queda and to westboro.

like, fullstop, how can I take anything you say seriously?

I dunno, using something called good judgement and critical thinking?

1: OP is the person who took what she said out of context. She wasn't directly calling male gamers sexists.

2: Absolutely no need for name calling. Don't call women cunts no matter how wrong-headed you think they are. It makes you seem childish, and therefore, unable to be taken seriously.

On the topic of Sarkeesian, did anyone else watch these? They're pretty interesting.

@TeflonBilly said:

@Animasta said:

you still literally compared her to a nazi and to al queda and to westboro.

like, fullstop, how can I take anything you say seriously?

I dunno, using something called judgement and critical thinking?

tell me when I haven't been; I've been saying since the beginning to wait until she actually releases a video (and not a 200 character tweet) before jumping down her throat about anything she says.

you're statements tell me you have some weird irrational hatred of anita, and that's why you would compare her to those groups and why you would "jokingly' threaten her with violence, and thus I shouldn't take your opinions on her seriously. if you actually want to, I don't know, prove that she's this super horrible piece of shit like you think actually make a civil argument first before comparing her to people that literally kill people. LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE.

@Animasta said:

@TeflonBilly said:

@Animasta said:

you still literally compared her to a nazi and to al queda and to westboro.

like, fullstop, how can I take anything you say seriously?

I dunno, using something called judgement and critical thinking?

tell me when I haven't been; I've been saying since the beginning to wait until she actually releases a video (and not a 200 character tweet) before jumping down her throat about anything she says.

you're statements tell me you have some weird irrational hatred of anita, and that's why you would compare her to those groups and why you would "jokingly' threaten her with violence, and thus I shouldn't take your opinions on her seriously. if you actually want to, I don't know, prove that she's this super horrible piece of shit like you think actually make a civil argument first before comparing her to people that literally kill people. LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE.

By the way, I stand by my original statement that her history of comments and behavior makes her OPINIONS as credible to me as those of Al-Queda and the Westboro Baptist Church, not the ACTIONS!

And honestly, I've seen most of her earlier work and unless she's doing a MAJOR overhaul of her presentation and tactics for this forthcoming documentary, then pardon me for being more than skeptical.

I am excited for what it will offer, but I also dread that she will stick to her dismissive, disinformative drivel that permeates so much of her work that it will stunt any proper and intelligent discussion on the subject.

Wow that twitter feed... I just can't ...

Apart from the title being completely misleading it seems that some people are unable to have a civil conversation about this topic and so I'm locking the thread. Expressing your opinions is fine but some of the vitriolic comments that I've had to delete are totally unacceptable.