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Right, seeing as the staff are more or less gathered in SF and will probably begin GOTY deliberations this week, I think this'll be my last update to this post (because any messes happening after their recordings won't be factored in). The news has slowed considerably following the Thanksgiving weekend, and short of something drastic happening in the next couple days, I won't bother to update this thread.

As far as I see it, the three main contenders are Blizzard & Blitzchung, Google Stadia and Randy Pitchford, with honorable mention given to slow burn hot messes like Starbreeze Studios, Star Citizen and Shenmue III all having persistent money problems and seeking funding from numerous publishers and platforms to achieve... not all that much.

Despite the news it generated, Anthem I think is (hell, even at the time too) way too boring to even be considered a hot mess and instead falls under the semi-separate category of the Games Industry's Ongoing Labor Problems with crunch and layoffs (which is more of a "Please Stop/Sort Your Shit Out" thing rather than a hot mess, and includes a whole bunch of major developers).

Special shoutout to the Riot staff for making a stand this year with their walkouts in protest of the arbitration clause among other things.

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Colonel_Pockets

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Anthem, Blizzard and Randy Pitchford should be the three. My God what a year.

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I’m trying to remember if the crew drew a line between human and business issues in recent years, but if they’re all in play, I feel like they should break this into two categories.

Judging sexual predators and suicides against the continuing misadventures of Fallout 76 doesn’t sit right with me.

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@colonel_pockets: Considering my post right above this...where does the Continuing Misadventures of Randy Pitchford fit in the serious allegations vs. mind-boggling bad business dichotomy?

It’s all silly enough to be considered hottest mess territory, but it’s also a weird mix of teen porn, potential financial misappropriation, and a frat-bro lawsuit....

...fuck, is it so silly that it’s a hottest mess? I guess so...

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@nutter: Agreed... It felt weird when Fallout 76's backpack won over Telltale on previous years.

I think Randy Pitchford qualifies, though. Everything about it, from sueing about 6 packs money, to mixing his porn with financial data and forgetting it in a thematic restaurant, to his responses about all that on twitter, sound almost like a script to Michael Bay's Pain and Gain 2.

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@hermes: Agreed.

Also, I love the Pain and Gain reference. I don’t like Michael Bay movies, but that one was a hell of a trip.

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Personally i think its best if they leave the real life shit off of this topic because that's just not for fun debate time.

@colonel_pockets said:

Anthem, Blizzard and Randy Pitchford should be the three. My God what a year.

Fallout 76 is easily a bigger mess than Anthem. Anthem is fine enough to play it just didn't pick up anything. 76 is actually a mess and the ongoing developments with it this year were baffling.

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#108  Edited By MrGreenMan

@hermes said:

@nutter: Agreed... It felt weird when Fallout 76's backpack won over Telltale on previous years.

I think Randy Pitchford qualifies, though. Everything about it, from sueing about 6 packs money, to mixing his porn with financial data and forgetting it in a thematic restaurant, to his responses about all that on twitter, sound almost like a script to Michael Bay's Pain and Gain 2

Randy Pitchford has been a horrible human for some time now, especially when it comes to the games industry he up there. The last year just so much of it came together to show how much of a awful person he really is, but he's been like this since I can even remember.

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@hermes: @mrgreenman:

I’ve been listening to old Team GFB podcasts. I’m late to the party (so late it’s over), but MAN, MAN, MAN, MAN, MAN, some of the name dropping of game developers doesn’t age well.

This struck me a number of times. Most recently, Randy Pitchford and Nick Robinson came up multiple times in a few episodes from around April-May 2017.

I don’t keep up on all the controversies, and usually have no idea who folks are anyhow, but it does paint a picture of being unable to escape maybe/allegedly shitty people in the games industry.

Maybe it’s more public facing, due to fandoms...I couldn’t fathom folks I work with getting caught up, and caught up publicly, in the sort of shit that gets attention in game development.

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@mrgreenman: Agreed.

Personally, I haven't trusted him since the one-two of Duke Nukem Forever and Colonial Marines. Both were filled with controversy during and after their releases, with legal claims sprinkled in them, and his answers at the time only cemented him as a egocentric manchild, borderline felon to me.

This year was mostly a cluster of crap from all sides, aligned with the spotlight of releasing Borderlands 3. I am fine with him being one of the finalists in this category.