I may have found the origin of Warren's face, maybe

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#1  Edited By Vlaphor

I was watching an episode of the Cinema Snob where he was looking at the movie "Enter The Ninja", when a particular frame jumped out at me

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and I immediately thought of our resident spinning dropkicker

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While this connection may seem a bit far-fetched, I would honestly recommend reading the excellent Hardcoregaming101 article "Tracing The Influence" to see just how deep and prevalent image copying has been over the history of gaming. It's that article that made me think this just might be the case. The timelines add up well enough, with Enter The Ninja coming out in 81 and Deadly Moves coming out in 92, so there was more than enough time for someone to look at these few seconds when this scene happened (The Cinema Snob video and the scene below), assume nobody would notice since the movie came out eleven years prior, and just copy it over.

https://youtu.be/wIt5pC4Ghq4?t=579

and I've seen crazier images copied for game usage, such as this

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/arinaminv.jpg

turning into this

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/bareknuckle2.jpg

(again, I highly recommend reading the article to see more examples of this)

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/tracing.htm

plus, it also answers a big question about the character, which is why he has the facial expression in the first place. Maybe someone was watching Enter the Ninja, thought Franco Nero's expression at the time was cool/intense and tried to copy it over to their character...with mixed results. Also, if you look at their faces beyond the expression, you'll see several similarities. The same mustache for one, but similar cheekbones, somewhat identical sideburns, and even similar eyebrows (notice the arch on the left eyebrow).

So yeah, just something I thought of.

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I mean, it's possible. Earlier video games stole images all the time. We'll probably never know for sure.

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#3  Edited By ajamafalous

I think you're probably right.

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I hope this is true.

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It is uncanny.

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"I may have found the origin of Warren's face, maybe"

A sentence that anywhere apart from Giant Bomb would be baffling.

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#7  Edited By Akyho

I more thought of him looking like the Scottish comedy character Rab C Nesbitt but with a moustache....I mean...he has the headband and everything.~

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Also this is totally how Warren sounds.....

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I was in deployment when this whole Warren thing blew up. Whats it all about and where did it start?

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@sanj said:

It is uncanny.

It really is.

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@css_switchfoot: Warren was in one of the games from the Ranking of Fighters video series, in which Jeff and Jason rank every fighting game ever according to quality. I'm not sure which episode it was.

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This is awesome.

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this needs to be true.

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#14  Edited By Vlaphor

I don't know. The only thing that he has in common with Warren is the headband. Usually when a character is copied, they'll go for a quick trace rather than just something identical.

@akyho said:

I more thought of him looking like the Scottish comedy character Rab C Nesbitt but with a moustache....I mean...he has the headband and everything.~

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But that's not Robert Shaw, that's Franco Nero. The original Django

Well to be fair a lot of guys look like Robert Shaw?

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That.. is shockingly similar. Great find.

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Too good not to be true.

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#19  Edited By NewHuman

@vlaphor: Nice work gumshoe - Also the article you linked really is great, thanks for including that.

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Pixel art copies of action and Kung fu movies was indeed very common in old Japanese games.

This is probably true. Which means that Warren is REAL and he is our friend.

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Nice. You seem to have looked into it too, and that's good enough for me.

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While on the hunt to collaborate this discovery, I've found that Warren has been ported to M.U.G.E.N.... that is, CYBER WARREN:

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Turns out that in 2000, Brazilian M.U.G.E.N. character creator Lord Sinistro put out Cyber Warren, his modification of the amazing character. In fact, Cyber Warren was released long before an actual sprite grab or release of normal Power Moves Warren. A listing for Cyber Warren can be seen on a hidden away page on his website. If you want to download Cyber Warren, you can do so at mugenarchive.com.

Cyber Warren is also listed in the Mugen Fighters Guild. Here is a funny thread where seemingly Warren is mis-labelled as Cyber Warren, because that's how fucking cool Cyber Warren is (funny to me ok.) It seems that Cyber Warren was pretty well known in the early Mugen community.

The readthis.txt (http://pastebin.com/raw/st4zcZyA) included in the download is some A+ old-school shit also. This is Lord Sinistro's opinion on Warren via Google Translate:

This game is the worst fighting game q already seen. And Warren is the worst fighter this game that is, the worst fighter q ever existed on the face of gaming. Warren is Hawaiian, uses a type of skirt, is dwarf, ugly, and old. I was sorry and added a leg and a malleable metal arm. I put a laser display and not'm more sorry for him.

CYBER WARREN:

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#23  Edited By monkeyking1969

@vlaphor said:

But that's not Robert Shaw, that's Franco Nero. The original Django

@monkeyking1969 said:

Well to be fair a lot of guys look like Robert Shaw?

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...but that is not the point....Warren doing that spin kick with a bandanna looks like Robert Shaw.

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Holy shit @cyberwarren, unbelievable.

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Someone get Cyberwarren into SaltyBet. It has to happen.

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Not quite the same frame, but the look is still definitely there in better quality.