@pandabear said:
@sooty said:
@pandabear said:
I miss the guy and what he gave to this site, and in turn my life... but people's obsession and claims of depression over his passing are so strange to me. He was a great man, but it may be time for the people who weren't connect to him any other way than by seeing him in funny videos to move on. It's gone from being sad that he's gone to a weird level of cult of personality and celebrity worship. Making posts on the forum because you're drunk and find it hard to deal with? I mean if you found out he died via the Giant Bomb news feed chances are you weren't that close...
I 100% agree with you and at the risk of sounding cynical, I believe some people are overstating it for effect.
It still sucks though, and it is extremely grim when you think that he had only just gotten married, that part does make me uncomfortable and so does the fact that I kind of forgot all about it until today.
Glad I'm not alone. That first day I thought it was a joke but when it turned out to be true I just felt awful for his friends and family. I met him at E3 just this year and we spoke about the show for a while so I know first-hand he was a great guy... but I didn't cry when he died. I felt a sense of loss, but a reaction that strong is reserved for the close people in my life - friends or family. I think that people who are that upset by his passing and are just fans need to seriously re-evaluate what they're saying and why. Is it for effect? Do you often feel this connected to people you've never met? Is that healthy? It's just so macabre dragging it up here to get a reaction from people...
But anyway, Ryan was a genuinely great guy and he will always be missed.
I can understand why you all may feel that way from your vantage point, but I think coming here and stating that in response to people here is insensitive and somewhat cruel. I'm not inclined to necessarily disagree with the premise that some levels of grief are possibly unhealthy, but I think that recoiling from comments like these and daring to even compare them to a cult of personality goes way too far. Just as you may be mocking those expressing their pain here for possibly having an unhealthy level of attachment to someone they did not personally know, you are actively presenting an unhealthy lack of empathy for fellow human beings. Real people who you also do not know and have little right to judge in this way.
You should be ashamed of yourselves for allowing your pride over responding "better" to his death than others to convince you that saying these things is in any way appropriate. That voice telling you that these words might sound too cynical or cruel was the voice of reason, and you ignored it just so you might put down these people. I hope that bullying them was worth it, because even if that was not your intention, you have carelessly disregarded the feelings of others and responded cruelly in a way that is certainly far more unsettling than some people possibly being too attached to a regular personality that was in their lives over the last few years.
This isn't a contest about who handles what better, it's about looking at your own life and asking yourself "why does the death of someone who I have never met or had any meaningful two-way interaction with affect me so much?". If it's not a cult of personality thing than what is it? Do you understand what that means? Look at these posts, it's all about how much Ryan would love something, what he did on some Quick Look a year ago or how he would react to a topic on the Bombcast. I mean this was his job, not his life. And if you only know someone because of their job you don't know them at all. It's like mourning the passing of an actor or musician like they were your friend...
I have an unhealthy level of empathy with my fellow human beings? I've cried when people close to me have been diagnosed with cancer. I've supported others when they've lost friends or family. I can empathise with people in my life who I know and care about. But I don't think it's normal to be this depressed as people are claiming to be over the passing of someone who they knew only as an entertainer and not as a person. Think about the stories Jeff told about Ryan on that faithful podcast... those were the stories only a friend could tell. I'm willing to be RandomUser99 on the Giant Bomb forums didn't have a connection even remotely as close to the man.
I'm saying these things because, as evidenced by others here, I'm not alone. Think about how the people who actually knew him would feel. There's people saying they want to get Ryan's name tattooed on their arm. Tell me that level of 'honouring' is healthy when, once again, these same people didn't actually know the man. It's almost like the people who knew him are coping better. I never said "I'm coping better! You losers aren't!". I said that if his friends, his real honest-to-god friends who lived with him and shared important life experiences with him, and his family, who helped raise him and shape him as a human being, should be the ones we feel for and a should be ones grieving to that extent.
As I said, this isn't about me being superior, it's about people needing to frankly grow up a little. Respect the people who are still in mourning, remember Ryan fondly (as I do) for all the great things he did for us and move on with your life. Save your tears for people who you actually know...
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