Kotaku's journalistic integrity

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#1  Edited By vitor
http://psoneclassics.com/miscellaneous/kotaku-shows-its-journalistic-integrity/

So, anyone else find it kind of shocking that not only do they post poorly researched, questionable material but that any redactions are not noted and that those critical of the articles have their comments deleted and stat commenter status removed?

Hats off to them for the MW3 scoop recently and I do enjoy the occasional article (even those from Bashcraft which have little relevancy to actual games) but stuff like this should really have no place on such a prominent site. Makes the whole industry look bad.
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#2  Edited By DystopiaX

No cause it's been fairly obvious and pretty well covered before.

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#3  Edited By Hailinel

There's a reason that I don't visit that site anymore.

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@Hailinel said:
There's a reason that I don't visit that site anymore.
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#5  Edited By recroulette

That's why when the MW3 stuff got leaked I thought "Kotaku? Really?"
Also love how the comments on that story are locking on the error in the title. 

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#6  Edited By Getz

Jornalizm! Do you hold video game hobbyist sites to some kind of gold standard? Even the Baltimore Sun makes shit up all the time. The idea that print media is this unassailable bastion of truth and honor died when there was a profit to be made. It ain't changin' any time soon...

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#7  Edited By TaliciaDragonsong

I go there once a week for the webcomics.

Rest of the site is boring to read through, especially after the redesign.

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#8  Edited By p_p_o_d

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawker_Media#2011_redesign_and_traffic_loss    

Kotaku have more important things to do right now then care about Journalistic integrity and making sure everything they post is correct.

Gotta get those hits and keep the lights on and have money to buy little billy new books for school.     Post News now.  Correct mistakes later.   






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#9  Edited By Slaker117

Glad to see this isn't about the MW3 leak. Don't understand people who lashed out at them for that. Publishing information is what you should do when presented with it.

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#10  Edited By MeierTheRed
@Hailinel said:
There's a reason why i never visited that site.
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#11  Edited By Hailinel
@Slaker117 said:

Glad to see this isn't about the MW3 leak. Don't understand people who lashed out at them for that. Publishing information is what you should do when presented with it.

Patrick Klepek said he'd had done the same thing, given the information.  There's no reason to lash out at Kotaku for publishing the information, but otherwise, the site's journalistic integrity (or really, anything resembling a willingness to take criticism to heart and to own up to mistakes) is pretty much nonexistent.
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#12  Edited By vitor
@Getz said:
Jornalizm! Do you hold video game hobbyist sites to some kind of gold standard? Even the Baltimore Sun makes shit up all the time. The idea that print media is this unassailable bastion of truth and honor died when there was a profit to be made. It ain't changin' any time soon...
This has nothing to do with print media. 

Fact is, we should hold all sites to some sort of standard. And, truth be told, we usually let gaming sites get away with a lot more than we ought to, purely because there pretty much exists no decent standard to compare them to.  
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#13  Edited By MariachiMacabre

I liked Kotaku until I started coming here on a regular basis. The terrible redesign that caused 80% of Gawker users to leave? That was just the final nail in the coffin for me.

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#14  Edited By Slaker117
@Hailinel: Oh, definitely. I'm not defending them outside of that. I used to visit occasionally out of habit, but stopped after the redesign. I soon realized how dumb it was to that I went before because I never liked the tone and felt like I was still getting all interesting information.
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HELL YEAH DIGIBUTTER REPRESENT.

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#16  Edited By N7

I remember I stopped going there before Resistance 2 came out.

Never looked back.

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#17  Edited By Milkman

Kotaku is shit. The Modern Warfare 3 reveal was good but they even fucked that up by calling it an "exclusive." It's a shame too because Stephen Totilo definitely deserves better than that site. Besides Patrick, he's one of the few real news men in the business. 

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#18  Edited By Claude

Journal journalism at its best. The TMZ of video games. I don't visit that much since the last design change. They were fun for a while.

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#19  Edited By KarlPilkington

Well the redesign didn't affect me as I continue to use the old version, but what is annoying is that Ashcraft will post anything even related to Japan, regardless of its relation to videogames.

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#20  Edited By Generiko

I stopped going there when I realized half their post weren't even about games.

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#21  Edited By Kandycane2029
@Chabbs0 said:
...but what is annoying is that Ashcraft will post anything even related to Japan, regardless of its relation to videogames.
Mostly porn, really.
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#22  Edited By TheSmashing

 Kotaku is to be ignored like all worthless attention whores 

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#23  Edited By Enigma777

Um.... when has Kotaku had any journalistic integrity?! 

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#24  Edited By Vonocourt

I thought that Game Journos are incompetent Fuckwits buried any decent image Kotaku had a long time ago, you know before that blog itself became irrelevant.

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I still go there for the funny stuff but for real gaming news I tend to go elsewhere.

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#26  Edited By Contro

Worst gaming site out there imo, the sensationalist slant they put on stories is deplorable.

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#27  Edited By RoyCampbell
@Chabbs0 said:
but what is annoying is that Ashcraft will post anything even related to Japan, regardless of its relation to videogames.
If this were said on Kotaku, I'd have to warn you to avert your eyes to the incoming droves of suck ups wanting a star that are going to tell you that "It's a BLOG, they can post whatever they want because it's a BLOG. A BLOG. WHAT HAS MY LIFE COME TO?*".

*Brian Ashcraft has starred you.

Eugh.
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#28  Edited By JoeyRavn

Whatever. I will still keep Jezebel as my main source for video game-related news.

No, wait...

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#29  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

Kotaku have been doing that for a loooooooong time.

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#30  Edited By Pepsiman

Keep in mind that some of the perceived dubiousness might be more the fault of corporate politics than just the writers themselves. It's not as though Crecente and company are just running the show by themselves and that hasn't been the case for a very long time in the site's history, since I believe it was only briefly independent before getting bought out. A good number of Gawker's other sites aside from Gizmodo and Lifehacker aren't necessarily thought of as being top-knotch, either. Hell, as the main Gawker itself site proclaims, "Today's gossip is tomorrow's news." It doesn't make the issues that Kotaku has any better, but I always prefer putting things into perspective before outright jumping to conclusions. I only bring this up because I know at least some of the staff members have proper journalistic chops, Crecente having worked the police beat for a local paper in my state for over a decade before tackling Kotaku full time. These guys are doing their job and that probably involves having their work be at least somewhat dictated by Gawker's metrics the sort of content that's worth putting up and how to handle moderation. I'd say that's especially true of Ashcraft's articles, since I doubt he'd keep doing them unless someone higher up specifically told him to do so as the site's only full-time Japan correspondent.

Again, I'm not big on Kotaku, either. But I figure the culture there is what it is for a reason and not just because the staff "doesn't care." It could be that, of course, but there's probably more to it.

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#31  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@Vitor said:
http://psoneclassics.com/miscellaneous/kotaku-shows-its-journalistic-integrity/

So, anyone else find it kind of shocking that not only do they post poorly researched, questionable material but that any redactions are not noted and that those critical of the articles have their comments deleted and stat commenter status removed?

Hats off to them for the MW3 scoop recently and I do enjoy the occasional article (even those from Bashcraft which have little relevancy to actual games) but stuff like this should really have no place on such a prominent site. Makes the whole industry look bad.
LOL.  Looking at Kotaku for 'journalistic integrity' is like relying on Sony to protect sensitive information.
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#32  Edited By ThePhantomnaut
@JoeyRavn said:
Whatever. I will still keep Jezebel as my main source for video game-related news. No, wait...
I get mine from Fleshbot.