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#1 Posted by GozerTC (502 posts) -

Greetings all,

So my wife and I enjoy MMO's like WoW, SWtOR, GW2, TERA, and the like. That whole 3rd person, behind the back, tab target or action combat all of that is good. But we actually are done with the "Massively Multiplayer" part of that genre. Yes we can and do play MMO's without looking at the other players but we'd like to get a similar gameplay with just the two of us.

The Problem really comes from my wife though because I can't get her into most of the usual Co-Op Game styles.

1st Person: That's right out. NOTHING 1st person she just can't do it.

Isometric: It's "Too far away" which includes zooming in as best as I could with Diablo and Divinity.

Same Screen: Yep she doesn't like split or shared screen.

She DID like Assassins Creed Unity's co-op mode there just wasn't enough of it as you couldn't do the story co-op. Farm Together has been a nice one as well. Survival games have been "okay" and hit or miss as Ylands, Minecraft, and the recently cancelled Skysaga.

Really would just like a 3rd person RPG like Skyrim or the Witcher that was Co-Op all the time not just a special side mode. Thanks!

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#2 Posted by Savage (781 posts) -

Here are some non-conventional RPGS that meet all of your criteria:

  • State of Decay 2
  • Dark Souls 1/2/3
  • Monster Hunter World
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#3 Edited by Kaivyre (26 posts) -

Her not liking first person games and isometric kills like 90% of your choices for co-op as far as I know, unfortunately. But out of the top of my head, Two Worlds II is not amazing but at least it meets all of your criteria? If she can stand side-scrollers, you could try Terraria or Starbound.

Also it's probably a really long shot but, what about a 3rd person shooter like The Division (Earth Defence Force is fun if you like B-Movies) or maybe monster hunting games like God Eater 2 and Toukiden 2?

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#4 Posted by Sweep (10563 posts) -

You can play the entire of Gears 3 and 4 with local/online co-op. Horde mode is also pretty fun. The Division is also a possibility?

To be honest though if she's into 3rd person MMORPG's then Monster Hunter World sounds perfect.

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#5 Posted by nutter (1886 posts) -

@kaivyre: Yeah, I was ready to talk up Divinity and Dungeon Siege 3, but no isometric really hurts the co-op RPG scene.

Wasteland was fun, and Wateland 2 will have co-op, last I knew... probably isometric, though.

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#6 Posted by BabyChooChoo (7089 posts) -
  • Monster Hunter World?
  • Warframe...kinda...? It's obviously more of a shooter than anything else, but it has rpg elements soooo...maybe?

That's all I got.

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#7 Posted by MeMonk (320 posts) -

I would recommend warframe plus it is free no harm checking it out

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#8 Posted by Rastopher (80 posts) -

Um...Maybe Neverwinter Nights 2? It's not exactly ideal, but you can adjust the camera to an over the shoulder angle if you want.

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#9 Posted by steevl (542 posts) -

There was a Lord of the Rings game that came out years ago on PC and consoles which had co-op and it was third person. It was called Lord of the Rings: War in the North. My wife and I played it together for a level or two, but never came back to it because she was busy with other life stuff and we kind of forgot about it. Seemed fun, though! Not sure how well it runs these days.

It was made by Snowblind, who made the awesome Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance which was a neat Diablo clone.

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#10 Posted by Justin258 (15580 posts) -

Monster Hunter World might be your best bet.

State of Decay 2 isn't really an RPG but it looks like it has a lot of stat and character management stuff, perhaps that's a good option?

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#11 Posted by InfamousOnager (26 posts) -

Haven't played it myself but a bunch of my friends play Portal Knights and it sounds fairly similar to what you're looking for.

Stardew Valley multiplayer is neat too, though it may face the same criticism as isometric games, or be too close to Farm Together.

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#12 Posted by GozerTC (502 posts) -

Thanks Guys. I've tried a few of the ones you've listed but you've come up with some others I hadn't considered so I'll run them past her. (Gears is right how. "Too Gory" she says. :( )

I'm thinking I might get somewhere with God Eater/Monster Hunter Worlds... wish me luck!

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#13 Posted by VoleMaulder (91 posts) -

I second the LotR: War in the North suggestion. I've been playing it over the last month or two with my partner on the PS3 and it's pretty decent. Mind you, it's heavier on the action than on the RPG part, but there is enough of the latter in there, I think, to satisfy your criteria. And it's not gory either!

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#14 Posted by KingBonesaw (1355 posts) -

Secret of Mana? The camera angle might not fit the criteria but it’s a great game.

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#15 Posted by Rejizzle (1082 posts) -

Well, the only one I can think of that hasn't been said already is The Crew. Maybe get the sequel? Also Steep, I guess kinda sorta.

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#16 Posted by konig_kei (1025 posts) -

Guild Wars 1?

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#17 Posted by SpookyWaffles (6 posts) -

You could try the Tamriel Online mod for Skyrim. I haven't used it for quite a while, so I can't say what state it is in currently in terms of bugs and stuff. Skyrim has the option for third person too, so it may be up your alley. You can find it on Nexusmods

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#18 Posted by FireBurger (1604 posts) -

Resident Evil 5?

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#19 Edited by VoleMaulder (91 posts) -

@rejizzle said:

Well, the only one I can think of that hasn't been said already is The Crew. Maybe get the sequel? Also Steep, I guess kinda sorta.

How are these two RPGs? Or anything like Skyrim or the Witcher? I mean, they have an open world, I guess, but...

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#20 Posted by pweidman (2839 posts) -

She might like ESO. Pretty much endless quests and dungeons to conquer together. It is MMO lite, but ime the interactions are very limited unless you go out of your way, and you can go about your way without any feeling of someone else interfering or impeding your progress. The difficult dungeons and bosses are in four person groups only last I played as well, so it's more co-op adventuring than MMO actually, plus the game world is incredibly vast.

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#21 Posted by nutter (1886 posts) -

@gozertc: I play Gears horde with my kid. Most, if not all of them allow you to tone down the language and COMPLETELY remove all gore (which looks absurd, but it’s an option).

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#22 Posted by mach_go_go_go (205 posts) -

Final Fantasy XV.

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#23 Posted by Vortextk (930 posts) -

@gozertc said:

Thanks Guys. I've tried a few of the ones you've listed but you've come up with some others I hadn't considered so I'll run them past her. (Gears is right how. "Too Gory" she says. :( )

I'm thinking I might get somewhere with God Eater/Monster Hunter Worlds... wish me luck!

Agreed with the MHW answers. My girlfriend doesn't play things that difficult the majority of the time, so it's not an option for me, but with friends in general it's been so great. I tried to start god eater and couldn't get into it but I feel the "on ramp" part of the game is pretty bad and now that I've played a ton of my first monster hunter, I have a way better idea for what the game is trying to do that I want to go back sometime. +points to that one if she's more into an anime setting or if you want something a little more easy and hack/slash(atleast I'm pretty sure compared to MH titles?).

Trine is a bit more puzzle-y than pure action and combat, it's also not isometric but it is 2d and a bit zoomed out. I have no idea how good trine 3 works in 3d; haven't looked into it much and was wary of it honestly.

So I do have a suggestion that I don't think any of my friends, except the one I played co-op with, has ever played and most never heard of. A "B" game, if you will. Hunted: The Demon's Forge. One player plays an elf woman which is mainly a ranged fighter, one plays a human man which is mainly a melee fighter. The game is a little bit like gears of war with chest high walls, character size and perspective and shooting(third person and some cover stuff if I remember, probably not at "tight"), but has some light rpg upgrading mechanics as well. I had a ton of fun with this game BECAUSE of the co-op; I thought the game was just fine. Looking at the steam reviews re-affirms what I thought of it. B tier at best, ok not great, but works, is SUPER cheap($5 without going on sale, 1-2 on sale) and I had fun with it. Looks like online co-op was taken down years ago but you can lan it seems like through programs and some user fixes so, there's that. It's split screen too but you said she doesn't like it.

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#24 Edited by loliv13 (5 posts) -
@vortextk said:

@gozertc said:

Thanks Guys. I've tried a few of the ones you've listed but you've come up with some others I hadn't considered so I'll run them past her. (Gears is right how. "Too Gory" she says. :( )

I'm thinking I might get somewhere with God Eater/Monster Hunter Worlds... wish me luck!

Agreed with the MHW answers. My girlfriend doesn't play things that difficult the majority of the time, so it's not an option for me...

Sorry to be a little off-topic, but do you guys have any tips for gaming with your girlfriend/SO if they don't identify as "gamers"?

There are tons of articles like this https://appgrooves.com/article/best-games-to-get-your-girlfriend-to-play-video-games online but I'm wondering what you guys think

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#25 Posted by Vortextk (930 posts) -

@loliv13:

I mean, see if she's into anything. My girlfriend doesn't play many games that I like to play: MMOS, shooters, open world, action combat; the big stuff. Some she likes to watch, but that's about it. She was really into the lego games so we went through a bunch of those until I just couldn't anymore lol. Less about the quality or hating them than just the same type of game for so many hours for me. I've shown her multiple things she didn't seem interested in, but every now and then something just clicks.

She played some destiny 1 at a friend's house so I literally bought a ps4 because it was starting to get a good amount of games(2016 spring) for me, and here was something she liked. It sucked because we couldn't play together. I was HOOKED seeing Dan play stardew, immediately bought it and started dumping hours into it. She watched, wanted to play, and we both have a super high hours save file each. And then just last week, we started a co-op save file(soooo much better).

She also really likes some f2p phone games here and there. I have one I'm "serious" enough about, I'm not spending any money but I log in a lot, and I just try to talk to her about her games when she's playing. I might not be interested in it or really be able to play with her but that atleast gets that hobby in there.

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#26 Posted by generic_username (943 posts) -

The Tales games have co-op, but it's only during the battles and most (if not all) of the games handle the camera in co-op very poorly. It'll still center on Player One even if it means Player Two isn't on screen at all. You don't always need to be visible, exactly, but it's not ideal.

But it's not first person, not isometric, and it's not split screen. Though it doesn't exactly sound like you're necessarily looking for a JRPG, so this suggestion is maybe not that helpful. My younger brother and I had a lot of fun playing through Tales of Symphonia (which has a PC port, though it's rough in places) together a few times, in spite of the not-so-great implementation of the co-op. He liked what basically amounted to backseat driving most of the time but actually getting to play the game himself during the battles.

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#27 Edited by MATATAT (1224 posts) -

@generic_username: I also thought of the Tales games but he specified no shared screen as well as no split screen, so I threw it out.

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#28 Edited by Francium34 (329 posts) -

Maybe Lord of the Rings: War in the North? (edit: oops, I see 2 recommendations on this already)

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#29 Posted by GozerTC (502 posts) -

@loliv13: @vortextk:

You could try the Tamriel Online mod for Skyrim. I haven't used it for quite a while, so I can't say what state it is in currently in terms of bugs and stuff. Skyrim has the option for third person too, so it may be up your alley. You can find it on Nexusmods

Tanks Spooky I'll give this one a shot as she's seen me play Skyrim and I always though just a two player Skyrim would be perfect.

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@gozertc said:

Thanks Guys. I've tried a few of the ones you've listed but you've come up with some others I hadn't considered so I'll run them past her. (Gears is right how. "Too Gory" she says. :( )

I'm thinking I might get somewhere with God Eater/Monster Hunter Worlds... wish me luck!

Agreed with the MHW answers. My girlfriend doesn't play things that difficult the majority of the time, so it's not an option for me, but with friends in general it's been so great. I tried to start god eater and couldn't get into it but I feel the "on ramp" part of the game is pretty bad and now that I've played a ton of my first monster hunter, I have a way better idea for what the game is trying to do that I want to go back sometime. +points to that one if she's more into an anime setting or if you want something a little more easy and hack/slash(atleast I'm pretty sure compared to MH titles?).

So I do have a suggestion that I don't think any of my friends, except the one I played co-op with, has ever played and most never heard of. A "B" game, if you will. Hunted: The Demon's Forge. One player plays an elf woman which is mainly a ranged fighter, one plays a human man which is mainly a melee fighter. The game is a little bit like gears of war with chest high walls, character size and perspective and shooting(third person and some cover stuff if I remember, probably not at "tight"), but has some light rpg upgrading mechanics as well. I had a ton of fun with this game BECAUSE of the co-op; I thought the game was just fine. Looking at the steam reviews re-affirms what I thought of it. B tier at best, ok not great, but works, is SUPER cheap($5 without going on sale, 1-2 on sale) and I had fun with it. Looks like online co-op was taken down years ago but you can lan it seems like through programs and some user fixes so, there's that. It's split screen too but you said she doesn't like it.

Thanks again everyone for Monster Hunter World suggestion. She's willing to give it a shot as soon as the PC version launches as we don't have two PS4's to play that one yet. (We don't have any console but the Switch BTW) I'm going to hung down this Hunted game though as that sounds exactly the kind of game she'd like. (Found it on Steam now to sell her on the idea)

Now to the mentions of ESO and Guild wars thanks but just assume we've tried and or played for a while pretty much Every MMO you can think of which is why we're here. Here's a quick list of the games she's tried and how well they've gone over. Also before I do that thanks again for trying to help out we really do appreciate it! (I show her this thread every now and again)

World of Warcraft (We didn't meet in here but it's where we dated as she was in Australia and I was in America so we played this for a LONG time and it's set the tone for everything afterwards. We gave up finally after Dreanor expansion)

Guild Wars 2 (She didn't get into 1 but we did play 2 for quite some time. Accounts still active of course but she got bored really)

Tera Online (Played to Level cap and loved it but then stopped. This was before it went F2P. Came back after F2P launch and still liked it but not enough to keep playing)

Dragons Nest (Enjoyed it but we only played to old level 24 I think it was cap and haven't been interested enough to ever return)

Vindicuts (Too dark, too much clipping [Oh expect to see this complaint and similar graphic ones as she's a 3D artist])

Aeon (Fun until flying. The timed flight stuff totally threw her off and she was out. [She still has issues controlling in a 3D Space quickly])

Final Fantasy XV (Didn't do 9 as it was too ugly, she avoided the game before the realm reborn and while enjoying the art style just got bored with the gameplay and story [I know it gets better but those first hours were just too slow])

Elder Scrolls (Bought it, played it, just didn't get into it. Hoping to try again but not holding my breath)

Blade and Soul (Liked the style and sexy girls [did I mention her 3D artwork was sexy women? Yeah] didn't like the lag and the repetitive gameplay. [We're in Australia])

Black Desert (Too sandbox not enough theme park basically. Felt like we kept running into PvP stuff that just blocked us from our doing things which is another reason we're trying to find a non-MMO)

Secret Worlds (Liked the theme but couldn't get past the art style and dirty look even after going F2P)

Rift (Played it at launch for a few months. Loved doing the Rifts and other group quests but it just pittered out. Tried again after it went F2P but by that point it was just bleh)

Smite (Too PvP but did like the style.)

Paladins (Installed not tried yet but I'm betting too PvP)

Wildstar (Enjoyed it for a month or two, played it F2P for another Month just didn't stick)

Neverwinter (Maybe played for a week. Too "dirty" and dark)

EVE Online (YES I got her to TRY it. Loved the character creator, thought the ships were neat looking, just couldn't wrap her head around the controls and didn't get past the tutorial mission)

Everquest 2 (Too dated looking)

LOTR Online (dated and boring)

Dungeons and Dragons Online: Tried for a bit but got bored

Definace: Didn't get past tutorial area. Too dirty.

There are literally a dozen more small F2P MMO's she's tried and given up on or just waved off as not pretty enough or the wrong format (like Warframe and Planetside 2)

She has liked playing some things in Roblox with our daughter like Block Hunt (and now Witch It) and such.

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I don't think it's off topic, I think this totally is the topic loliv13 and it shows my approach to gaming with my wife. I don't throw EVERYTHING at her but I do find what she reacts well to and toss Youtube videos and trailers to gauge her reaction. The big thing you need to know to get a non-gamer significant other into the fold is to remember you can't force them. You INVITE them in and show how it's something you can SHARE. What hooked my wife on WoW was that it gave us a way to connect and be together, it honestly didn't matter so much what we were doing but that we were doing it TOGETHER. Kind of like a cooking class, pottery class, or any other more traditional "couple" dates you could go on, you could take say "Farm Together" (Which is great BTW) and work together on her Farm, start off by showing her the controls and such and helping her get started. Then once she's started on her farm you'd log in as yourself and join her on her farm and help her harvest and plant what she wants. Making it a joint and shared experience and such. Minecraft in creative mode is another great one for that allowing her to build something with you is a big deal.

Also here's my Steam Library as you can see I've had a lot of games to throw at her and yeah... most didn't fly.

Also thanks you guys for getting this thread mentioned on the Community Spotlight well done!

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#30 Posted by loliv13 (5 posts) -

@gozertc: @vortextk: Thanks for the tips! F2P phone games definitely seem like the best gateway for now. I've tried showing my girlfriend videos and trailers in the past (even Let's Plays) but it's always been hard to get her to engage with them. I'll keep trying co-op stuff and hopefully something will catch her interest! It's not the end of the world if it doesn't, but I'd definitely love to share my past time with her a bit more. I really love the Farm Together date idea though Gozertc! Might have to steal that for our more frugal nights. Thanks so much for the Steam library link too!

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#31 Posted by Mattca123 (40 posts) -

@gozertc: RESIDENT EVIL 5 co-op in my opinion is second to none. The remaster on the xbox one and ps4 is phenomenal too and can be bought for like 20 bucks or less at best buy.

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#32 Posted by talbert99 (7 posts) -

Second the GW Series

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#33 Posted by GozerTC (502 posts) -

Well right now we're playing Raft and she's really enjoying it. Funny enough it's First Person so I think there's a chance that in the future I'll be able to add other first person co-op games.