Posting specific information.

I was wondering what the stand is on posting specific information on a page. I just recently wrote out a lengthy article about each of the endings for Chrono Trigger on the Chrono Trigger page. Someone brought it up to me that they belong in a guide. I can see how they would go in a guide but would something like this be allowed?

Sure. They could be in a walkthrough, sure, but story-related elements are fine on the page, I say. Shouldn't this be in Editing?

yeah, story-related things on a games page is fine, I don't see why it would belong in a guide. Just put it under the Story section.

Well To late now. Im asking because I just got a pm from starfoxa saying he thinks im abusing the wiki by doing stuff like that so he deletes all my info which I didn't save a backup for yet.

... that's something you need to report. It's not his decision to delete that. What a douchebag. It's perfectly fine to have that stuff on the Wiki. He should have gone to the moderators or asked the public.

Thank you. Thats exactly what I have been arguing with him about for the last few minutes.

Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits.

Wow, geez guys, it wasn't that well written in the first place.

"Wow, geez guys, it wasn't that well written in the first place."

What? yeah it was? the formatting wasn't great but it had good grammar and punctations. not like i was writing on a forum, like say now. It took me a long time too.

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

"What? yeah it was? the formatting wasn't great but it had good grammar and punctations. not like i was writing on a forum, like say now. It took me a long time too."

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

Why not actually edit it then? or PM him first?"

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

your abusing the system by deleting someone elses hard work. I dont see how it was opinionated. All I stated was stuff like you need to have beaten x dungeon before receiving y ending, thats not opinionated thats just facts. i don't see how it wasn't well-written when it took me forever to do."

Well you did make a post on my wall before we had any conversation about this situation saying you knew it was me. Check your profile.

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

It wasn't in the wrong place, and it's not your place to decide whether or not it is. You take questions like that to the Editing and Tools board. As for being subjective instead of objective, you could *easily* edit that out in 5 minutes. I do that to pages all the time. It's quick and painless. You don't go deleting someone's entire write-up unless you intend to replace it. That's just a dick move."

"It happens. I have had countless long articles deleted, forcing me to rewrite them. I said some parts; only a few small tidbits of it."

"Well you did make a post on my wall before we had any conversation about this situation saying you knew it was me. Check your profile."

This is getting good.

"MasturbatingBear said:

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

your abusing the system by deleting someone elses hard work. I dont see how it was opinionated. All I stated was stuff like you need to have beaten x dungeon before receiving y ending, thats not opinionated thats just facts. i don't see how it wasn't well-written when it took me forever to do."

It happens. I have had countless long articles deleted, forcing me to rewrite them. I said some parts; only a few small tidbits of it."

"StarFoxA said:

"It happens. I have had countless long articles deleted, forcing me to rewrite them. I said some parts; only a few small tidbits of it."

Having your articles deleted wrongly before is not grounds for making it common practice to others. That's a stupid reason."

"Jayge said:

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

It wasn't in the wrong place, and it's not your place to decide whether or not it is. You take questions like that to the Editing and Tools board. As for being subjective instead of objective, you could *easily* edit that out in 5 minutes. I do that to pages all the time. It's quick and painless. You don't go deleting someone's entire write-up unless you intend to replace it. That's just a dick move."

I was intending on replacing it, but now I've gotten involved in this."

"Who said I was making it a common practice? I wasn't using it as an excuse or anything. I was intending on replacing it."

"StarFoxA said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

your abusing the system by deleting someone elses hard work. I dont see how it was opinionated. All I stated was stuff like you need to have beaten x dungeon before receiving y ending, thats not opinionated thats just facts. i don't see how it wasn't well-written when it took me forever to do."

It happens. I have had countless long articles deleted, forcing me to rewrite them. I said some parts; only a few small tidbits of it."

If it was only opinionated in a few small places then why the hell would you delete it instead of fixing it?"

"StarFoxA said:

"Who said I was making it a common practice? I wasn't using it as an excuse or anything. I was intending on replacing it."

Then you should have done it in the same edit."

"Lies said:

"StarFoxA said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"StarFoxA said:

"Lies said:

"Yeah, that's kinda a dick move on his part, and in fact, HE'S abusing the system, not you, if he's deleting legitimate edits."

How am I abusing the system if I don't gain a point from deleting that? I felt that it was in the wrong place, it wasn't well-written, and it was rather opinionated in places."

your abusing the system by deleting someone elses hard work. I dont see how it was opinionated. All I stated was stuff like you need to have beaten x dungeon before receiving y ending, thats not opinionated thats just facts. i don't see how it wasn't well-written when it took me forever to do."

It happens. I have had countless long articles deleted, forcing me to rewrite them. I said some parts; only a few small tidbits of it."

If it was only opinionated in a few small places then why the hell would you delete it instead of fixing it?"

As I have already stated, it wasn't very well-written. I read over it, it wasn't very well-written. For me, it takes much less effort to completely rewrite something than to go through and find every single little mistake."

How was it not very well-written? I saw no problems with it, and I thought you just corrected yourself saying only tidbits then going to the whole thing wasn't very well-written?

"This is getting good."

LOL if there were any (maybe there were, everyone makes mistakes) they couldn't have been that much. And nothing was opinionated again still doesn't give you the right to delete someone else hard work. its up to mods.

"LOL if there were any (maybe there were, everyone makes mistakes) they couldn't have been that much. And nothing was opinionated again still doesn't give you the right to delete someone else hard work. its up to mods."

"BiggerBomb said:

"This is getting good."

How would you rate my performance?"

"StarFoxA said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"This is getting good."

How would you rate my performance?"

Your standing your ground, but I agree with MasturbatingBear/10"

Well. I think I'm done. StarFox admitted he was probably wrong to delete it outright like that, but MasturbatingBear's general writing quality is definitely subpar. I've reached a crossroads of opinions that I cannot decide between. Have fun, kids.

"MasturbatingBear said:

"LOL if there were any (maybe there were, everyone makes mistakes) they couldn't have been that much. And nothing was opinionated again still doesn't give you the right to delete someone else hard work. its up to mods."

Geez man, I am seriously sorry about deleting that. I just don't get why you're making such a big deal out of it. If it is any compensation, I will be rewriting that section."

"Well. I think I'm done. StarFox admitted he was probably wrong to delete it outright like that, but MasturbatingBear's general writing quality is definitely subpar. I've reached a crossroads of opinions that I cannot decide between. Have fun, kids."

"StarFoxA said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"LOL if there were any (maybe there were, everyone makes mistakes) they couldn't have been that much. And nothing was opinionated again still doesn't give you the right to delete someone else hard work. its up to mods."

Geez man, I am seriously sorry about deleting that. I just don't get why you're making such a big deal out of it. If it is any compensation, I will be rewriting that section."

So I do hard work and you decide to delete it and re-do it so you get the points? Somethings wrong with this picture, seeing as you did say you thought it didn't belong, then you change it to"ill do it myself" also haven't you all along been saying stuff like Im gonna pass you on the Chrono Trigger page?"

"MasturbatingBear said:

"StarFoxA said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"LOL if there were any (maybe there were, everyone makes mistakes) they couldn't have been that much. And nothing was opinionated again still doesn't give you the right to delete someone else hard work. its up to mods."

Geez man, I am seriously sorry about deleting that. I just don't get why you're making such a big deal out of it. If it is any compensation, I will be rewriting that section."

So I do hard work and you decide to delete it and re-do it so you get the points? Somethings wrong with this picture, seeing as you did say you thought it didn't belong, then you change it to"ill do it myself" also haven't you all along been saying stuff like Im gonna pass you on the Chrono Trigger page?"

I said that that was a little joke rivalry thing that I had going on. I wasn't serious. I'm not sure if it would be allowed, but maybe I could rewrite it, PM it to you, and then let you paste it into the article in the appropriate area."

"No thanks, Im not going to copy and paste someone elses work onto the wiki..."

what? I want justice? Not for me but if your going around deleting others work then going to re-do their work to get your own points I don't see how that is acceptable.

If we're looking for an example of what belongs in a guide, the list of heart containers and seashells on this page belongs in a guide.

Stuff about branching endings does not.

That is all. Good day sirs.

"what? I want justice? Not for me but if your going around deleting others work then going to re-do their work to get your own points I don't see how that is acceptable."

"what? I want justice? Not for me but if your going around deleting others work then going to re-do their work to get your own points I don't see how that is acceptable."

Alright, I think the conflicit is resolved MB. Wait, I can't call you that. MasturbatingBear, sorry. Anyway, we get it. I think he gets it, too. He made a mistake and it sucks that you lost a lot of shit, he shouldn't have deleted it. But what's there to do now?

"MasturbatingBear said:

"what? I want justice? Not for me but if your going around deleting others work then going to re-do their work to get your own points I don't see how that is acceptable."

I regularly erase or completely re-work paragraphs leaving nothing but the framework set down by the previous writer behind, whether it's for being too opinionated in the article or just plain readability issues. It's a frequent problem on the wiki and it's a legitimite practice to do so. It would have been better for him to A. tell you that he'd be re-writing it, or B. delete and re-write it in one edit, and not bother telling anybody. He didn't really do either of those things. If he *does* replace the content, I don't see a problem with it. (although you might want to keep your editing stuff private, Fox ;-) )"

Y'know, if StarFoxA is going to re-write the section, then I see no problem here. Fact of the matter is, if he can write it much better than the way MasturbatingBear did, then it's completely justified.

MasturbatingBear said:

"The problem is my writing was good and useful, so he didn't need to re-do it, also he is just trying to gain more points..."

"Jayge said:

"MasturbatingBear said:

"what? I want justice? Not for me but if your going around deleting others work then going to re-do their work to get your own points I don't see how that is acceptable."

I regularly erase or completely re-work paragraphs leaving nothing but the framework set down by the previous writer behind, whether it's for being too opinionated in the article or just plain readability issues. It's a frequent problem on the wiki and it's a legitimite practice to do so. It would have been better for him to A. tell you that he'd be re-writing it, or B. delete and re-write it in one edit, and not bother telling anybody. He didn't really do either of those things. If he *does* replace the content, I don't see a problem with it. (although you might want to keep your editing stuff private, Fox ;-) )"

The problem is my writing was good and useful, so he didn't need to re-do it, also he is just trying to gain more points..."

"The problem is my writing was good and useful, so he didn't need to re-do it, also he is just trying to gain more points..."