Psychological Science Claims 1 In 10 Are Addicted

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Fox News, America's finest purveyor of bullshit, has this article up. I have bolded the areas of interest in the article below, skip the start which bares no relevance.

Analysts: Video Gamers Get Hooked for Life, Could Become Addicted



Friday, July 31, 2009
By Tuan C. Nguyen and Lucas Siegel

Video gamers are gamers for life, analysts say. And that's no surprise to the industry that peddles the games and the hardware, which grew last year as the rest of the economy went south.

But health experts are worried that the deepening love affair some gamers have with their consoles may lead to addiction.

Consumer spending on video game hardware, software and accessories rose by 19 percent in 2008 over the previous year to $22.9 billion, according to the report released this week by the Entertainment Merchants Association.

New game console hardware sales increased by 11 percent, despite no price drops from Nintendo or Sony, two of the three major console manufacturers. Microsoft dropped the price of each version of their Xbox 360 console just prior to the holiday 2008 season.

There are signs of a slowdown, however, including a dip in sales during June, also reported this week. And yesterday, Nintendo announced that sales of its popular Wii consoles fell by 57 percent in the latest quarter — the first drop since 2006, according to news reports. Still, industry analysts expect overall industry profits to rebound with a slew of highly anticipated titles scheduled for release in the second half of the year.

"Our data also shows that the number of video gamers is broadening across many demographics, meaning as people get older they keep playing because they are now playing video games with their kids or getting fit with the Nintendo Wii," says George Van Horn, a senior analyst at IBISworld.

One factor behind the rise: The average console game typically provides between 5 and 25 hours of playtime. When that game is completed, gamers look to a new game, often without replaying the old ones.

"Once a person becomes a video gamer, he or she will remain a video gamer indefinitely, rendering the industry essentially turnover-proof," Van Horn said.

Meanwhile, the notion that video gaming can become addictive has remained controversial.

A study published in the May issue of the journal Psychological Science found that nearly 1 in 10 youths who play video games behaved in ways that were similar to other addictive disorders, such as compulsive gambling. These behaviors include skipping chores, lying to parents and even stealing money to support their gaming habits.

Excessive gaming has become a particularly severe problem in Asian countries, where a number of gaming-related deaths have been reported. In 2005, a 28-year old South Korean man died of exhaustion after playing computer games at an Internet cafe non-stop for close to 50 hours. A state survey released by the South Korean government revealed that an estimated 2.4 percent of the population aged 9 to 39 may be addicted to gaming.

Still, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has yet to recognize those who play games excessively as having a disorder, though some experts expect that to change.

"With these gamers, there's almost always some other underlying issue such as depression, anxiety or some form of social disorder," says Jerald Block, a psychiatrist at Oregon Health & Sciences University and an APA advisor. "But if the game playing poses a barrier to treating any of these other issues, it would have to be addressed separately as a pathology."

Block is currently lobbying the APA to include pathological video game playing in the next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, due out in 2012.





OMG!, they skipped chores!.

Are you a pathological videogamer in desperate need of help?, well  how do you feel about a bunch of shrinks lobbying to get your love of videogames recognized as a mental disorder?






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Nothing too shocking over the concept of gaming being addictive. No way am I gonna argue that sitting in front of a computer for a whole day on a single game is non-addictive behavior. Of course, observing children doesn't sound like the best way to prove such a thing since they can become obsessed with a multitude of different types of entertainment (television, games, Miley Cyrus). But when I see shrines to particular video game characters (courtesy of Shawn Elliott's twitter feed) and multiple day long gaming sessions, it isn't really hard to believe that some individuals do in fact become addicted to video games.

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Observing children doesn't sound like the best way to prove such a thing since they can become obsessed with a multitude of different types of entertainment (television, games, Miley Cyrus)

True.

It's bearded adults playing WoW that are giving these innocent young people a bad name. I do find it a little bit worrying though, that someone is trying to get it recognized as a mental disorder, I just wonder where it could lead one day.







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#4  Edited By Meowayne

A ~30 year old medium, being studied for long-term effects?

Riiight.


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#5  Edited By PureRok

This is like saying audiophiles or... whatever-you-call-the-equivalent-movie-person have disorders.

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#6  Edited By MrRedwine

Games are addictive to some people.  Racing cars is addictive to other people.  Sex is addictive to some people.  Just because something is addictive doesn't mean it is bad or that it will be banned.  It just means that people should be aware of their behavior regarding these activities.

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#7  Edited By Meowayne
@PureRok said:
"whatever-you-call-the-equivalent-movie-person "
Cineast, perhaps?
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While I agree that calling out video games specifically for being addictive is preposterous, I would agree that 1 in 10 sounds like a believable figure, it might be hard to accept but there comes a point where your hobby is in fact an addiction. I am well beyond that point personally but can at least recognise it.

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#9  Edited By Bigandtasty
@The_A_Drain said:
" While I agree that calling out video games specifically for being addictive is preposterous, I would agree that 1 in 10 sounds like a believable figure, it might be hard to accept but there comes a point where your hobby is in fact an addiction. I am well beyond that point personally but can at least recognise it. "
yeah, the answer is somewhere in between "video game addiction is a real disorder" and "video game addiction doesn't exist, it's all personal responsibility". They definitely have more potential to hook a person than other hobbies and forms of entertainment but overall video game addiction doesn't merit special attention.
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@Bigandtasty said:
"@The_A_Drain said:
" While I agree that calling out video games specifically for being addictive is preposterous, I would agree that 1 in 10 sounds like a believable figure, it might be hard to accept but there comes a point where your hobby is in fact an addiction. I am well beyond that point personally but can at least recognise it. "
yeah, the answer is somewhere in between "video game addiction is a real disorder" and "video game addiction doesn't exist, it's all personal responsibility". They definitely have more potential to hook a person than other hobbies and forms of entertainment but overall video game addiction doesn't merit special attention. "

Agreed, It's definately a legitimate problem, but addiction across a wide range of things is a legitimate problem, video games are no more special than any other medium which enables the user to escape from reality, books, music, television, movies, the internet, etc etc, it's being focused on like this because it's new, I know people who would be cliincally diagnosed as 'addicted' to reading books, yet anybody who isn't a psychologist would simply look at him and go "He likes books" and then see the guy who spends the same amount of time playing video games and hail them as the new devil.
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#11  Edited By Video_Game_King

Yea, I stopped reading when they used the word "peddle." Like it's a drug. When will video games be taken seriously as an art form?

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@Video_Game_King said:
" Yea, I stopped reading when they used the word "peddle." Like it's a drug. When will video games be taken seriously as an art form? "
When consumers take it seriously as an art form?
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@Godwind said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" Yea, I stopped reading when they used the word "peddle." Like it's a drug. When will video games be taken seriously as an art form? "
When consumers take it seriously as an art form? "
Then I guess the bigger question is "how do we get consumers to take gaming seriously without it coming across as pretentious, douchy, and pretty much everything else about the recent line of McCafé commercials?"
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@Video_Game_King said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" Yea, I stopped reading when they used the word "peddle." Like it's a drug. When will video games be taken seriously as an art form? "
When consumers take it seriously as an art form? "
Then I guess the bigger question is "how do we get consumers to take gaming seriously without it coming across as pretentious, douchy, and pretty much everything else about the recent line of McCafé commercials?" "
Why would somone want to take video gaming seriously?  I would rather have fun.
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@Video_Game_King: Agreed, "peddle" sounds like someone on the street corner hustling drugs to minors.  However, I do believe it is possible to become compulsively addicted to gaming just as it is possible to become obsessed with any other hobby.  But, let's be clear.  Video game addiction is nothing like and alcohol or drug dependency and any attempt, in my opinion, to liken the two is out of line.  Chemical addiction changes your body, while compulsive addictions like gaming, gambling or pornography are not physically altering.  I'm not going to say that the endorphin "high" people get from games can't be inviting, but it's no where near as debilitating as the effects of a true drug addiction. 

Anyway, apart from the tone of the article (video games have signed a pact with the devil to eat your children's souls) I wasn't too offended by findings.  I think the gaming community needs to un-circle the wagons and own up to the possibility that video games can be addicting.
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#16  Edited By Video_Game_King
@Godwind said:
Why would somone want to take video gaming seriously?  I would rather have fun. "
Why not both?

@PenguinDust said:
" @Video_Game_King: Agreed, "peddle" sounds like someone on the street corner hustling drugs to minors.  However, I do believe it is possible to become compulsively addicted to gaming just as it is possible to become obsessed with any other hobby.  But, let's be clear.  Video game addiction is nothing like and alcohol or drug dependency and any attempt, in my opinion, to liken the two is out of line.  Chemical addiction changes your body, while compulsive addictions like gaming, gambling or pornography are not physically altering.  I'm not going to say that the endorphin "high" people get from games can't be inviting, but it's no where near as debilitating as the effects of a true drug addiction.  Anyway, apart from the tone of the article (video games have signed a pact with the devil to eat your children's souls) I wasn't too offended by findings.  I think the gaming community needs to un-circle the wagons and own up to the possibility that video games can be addicting. "
Same opinion here. With drugs and alcohol, isn't there a substance in it that directly causes the addiction? It's not like video games emit addiction rays or something. Oh, and I'm not calling off my men; I still believe they're likening video games to drugs and porn and boogey men.

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Also not forget, it is Fox news, the self proclaimed "The Biggest Name in News".

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#18  Edited By Video_Game_King
@Godwind said:
" Also not forget, it is Fox news, the self proclaimed "The Biggest Name in News". "
Also don't forget, it is Fox News, the guys who featured an author who bashed Mass Effect before doing a fact check :P. (I'm aware there was a public apology afterward, but the point remains.)
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@Godwind said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" Yea, I stopped reading when they used the word "peddle." Like it's a drug. When will video games be taken seriously as an art form? "
When consumers take it seriously as an art form? "
Ah. Best summary of what is wrong with video games today ever.
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#20  Edited By Bigandtasty
@Video_Game_King said:
" @Godwind said:
" Also not forget, it is Fox news, the self proclaimed "The Biggest Name in News". "
Also don't forget, it is Fox News, the guys who featured an author who bashed Mass Effect before doing a fact check :P. (I'm aware there was a public apology afterward, but the point remains.) "
From the author, not from Fox News =p
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#21  Edited By Mooman18

Not surprising but then again many simple things can lead to addiction in the right personality types. Even cleaning can become an addiction to some. But gaming does have a lot of aspects to it that can create addiction such as the online community which can become a shelter to those that want to escape the drudgery of real life or just want to vent their anger. =P

Edit:  Game Developers... the drug dealers of the 21st century... XD jks

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#22  Edited By Video_Game_King
@Bigandtasty said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @Godwind said:
" Also not forget, it is Fox news, the self proclaimed "The Biggest Name in News". "
Also don't forget, it is Fox News, the guys who featured an author who bashed Mass Effect before doing a fact check :P. (I'm aware there was a public apology afterward, but the point remains.) "
From the author, not from Fox News =p
"
I don't get what you're saying. I think I understand, but it'd be better if you elaborated.
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#23  Edited By Bigandtasty
@Video_Game_King: Cooper Lawrence (the author who decried it and got burned for it in her Amazon reviews) apologized; Fox News didn't (the closest they got was claiming to allow EA a chance to appear on Fox News).
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#24  Edited By Video_Game_King
@Bigandtasty said:
" @Video_Game_King: Cooper Lawrence (the author who decried it and got burned for it in her Amazon reviews) apologized; Fox News didn't (the closest they got was claiming to allow EA a chance to appear on Fox News). "
Oh, OK. Then there's more reason not to trust Fox News. You know, aside from the fact that they employ Glenn Beck :P.
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#25  Edited By CaptainObvious

Erm, why do you keep posting news? Especially shitty ones.

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@CaptainObvious said:
" Erm, why do you keep posting news? Especially shitty ones. "

How old are you kid?
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#27  Edited By TheJollyRajah
I'm addicted and I know it, but I don't care. I still live a normal life and go to college and stuff. Video games are almost harmless if you know your limits. In fact, I think when this generation becomes senior citizens, Alzheimer's and other mental illnesses caused will be greatly diminished.

@CaptainObvious:

Linkyshinks is one of my favorite members because he posts interesting topics, and he's a nice dude if you don't get on his bad side. Giant Bomb also relies on him for Nintendo coverage most of the time, since the Giant Bomb staff rarely ever say anything about the Wii. He's a valuable member to us, give him more respect.
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#28  Edited By Video_Game_King
@TheJollyRajah said:
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I'm addicted and I know it, but I don't care. I still live a normal life and go to college and stuff.
"
Then it's not an addiction. An addiction is when it significantly interferes with your normal life; from what you've presented, this isn't the case.
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#29  Edited By dethfish

Even if people are addicted to video games, isn't that better than being addicted to worse things like Meth or Alcohol? I'm not saying 1 in 10 are addicted to games but it seems like a silly thing to do a study on. What's next? "9 out of 10 people admit to listening to music more than once a day".

And I usually skip chores for 1 reason. So I don't have to do them.

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#30  Edited By Agnogenic_delete

Kids are easily obsessive. I think it something you normally grow out of.

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#31  Edited By Snipzor

The APA doesn't note this as an addiction because it is a bloody hobby. The DSM can't include video game addiction as a mental illness because of two reasons. One being that this report has little conclusive evidence and uses that unscientific method of "Correlation equals causation" as well as ignoring the variables. Plus they've learned what happens when you add something as a disorder without evidence, it is proven wrong.


I love how the article is written as if it were talking about drugs. Quite pathetic.
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#32  Edited By natetodamax

Video games take up most of my spare time (I want to be a game designer) but I'm certainly not addicted. If I had to go a month without playing, I could do it. Whatever.

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#33  Edited By Demo

There are some who are addicted but it's far less than 1 in 10.
Their concept of addicted it too superficial.

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#34  Edited By Linkyshinks
@Snipzor said:
" The APA doesn't note this as an addiction because it is a bloody hobby. The DSM can't include video game addiction as a mental illness because of two reasons. One being that this report has little conclusive evidence and uses that unscientific method of "Correlation equals causation" as well as ignoring the variables. Plus they've learned what happens when you add something as a disorder without evidence, it is proven wrong.

I love how the article is written as if it were talking about drugs. Quite pathetic.
"


This.

Agree with all you points, I think you may well be right.

It is laughable in my eyes, I simply refuse to get angry at this gutter journalism.





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#35  Edited By AleM
@The_A_Drain said:
" @Bigandtasty said:
"@The_A_Drain said:
" While I agree that calling out video games specifically for being addictive is preposterous, I would agree that 1 in 10 sounds like a believable figure, it might be hard to accept but there comes a point where your hobby is in fact an addiction. I am well beyond that point personally but can at least recognise it. "
yeah, the answer is somewhere in between "video game addiction is a real disorder" and "video game addiction doesn't exist, it's all personal responsibility". They definitely have more potential to hook a person than other hobbies and forms of entertainment but overall video game addiction doesn't merit special attention. "
Agreed, It's definately a legitimate problem, but addiction across a wide range of things is a legitimate problem, video games are no more special than any other medium which enables the user to escape from reality, books, music, television, movies, the internet, etc etc, it's being focused on like this because it's new, I know people who would be cliincally diagnosed as 'addicted' to reading books, yet anybody who isn't a psychologist would simply look at him and go "He likes books" and then see the guy who spends the same amount of time playing video games and hail them as the new devil. "
Yeah, books and movies can represent a tool that enables people to escape reality. But they can also be a tool that enables people to expand their knowledge of the reality, however, I don't see the same thing happening to video games, which are solely a entertainment segment. I don't think I ever saw a game that explored social or environmental issues in a serious way.
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#36  Edited By The_A_Drain
@AleM said:
"@The_A_Drain said:
" @Bigandtasty said:
"@The_A_Drain said:
" While I agree that calling out video games specifically for being addictive is preposterous, I would agree that 1 in 10 sounds like a believable figure, it might be hard to accept but there comes a point where your hobby is in fact an addiction. I am well beyond that point personally but can at least recognise it. "
yeah, the answer is somewhere in between "video game addiction is a real disorder" and "video game addiction doesn't exist, it's all personal responsibility". They definitely have more potential to hook a person than other hobbies and forms of entertainment but overall video game addiction doesn't merit special attention. "
Agreed, It's definately a legitimate problem, but addiction across a wide range of things is a legitimate problem, video games are no more special than any other medium which enables the user to escape from reality, books, music, television, movies, the internet, etc etc, it's being focused on like this because it's new, I know people who would be cliincally diagnosed as 'addicted' to reading books, yet anybody who isn't a psychologist would simply look at him and go "He likes books" and then see the guy who spends the same amount of time playing video games and hail them as the new devil. "
Yeah, books and movies can represent a tool that enables people to escape reality. But they can also be a tool that enables people to expand their knowledge of the reality, however, I don't see the same thing happening to video games, which are solely a entertainment segment. I don't think I ever saw a game that explored social or environmental issues in a serious way."

So? Your point is?

The validity (or invalidity) of games as a method of delivering information or imparting knowledge is not what is being discussed here, and it has no bearing on how addictive they are, or are not, or how they compare to other similar mediums.

I mean, I agree with you, but the point isn't relevant here.