RPGs with really good combat.

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#1  Edited By sameeeeam

i started thinking about this a couple of minutes ago and found it a great deal harder than I'd originally anticipated: which RPGs have the best combat?   


I feel I've played very few RPGs with combat that actually made me sit up and take notice;  and, now that I put some thought into it, most of my favorites seem to feature combat that doesn't stand out. It's not what I look for in the genre.
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#3  Edited By Animasta
@Marz said:
" The Witcher + Witcher 2 "
the witcher had horrible combat and you don't even know how the witcher 2 actually plays (it does look awesome but still)

I'd say resonance of fate maybe
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#4  Edited By delta_ass

Mass Effect 2.

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#5  Edited By Kjellm87

hmm, I say Secret of Mana
oh, and Metroidvanias.

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#6  Edited By Marz
@Laketown said:
" @Marz said:
" The Witcher + Witcher 2 "
the witcher had horrible combat and you don't even know how the witcher 2 actually plays (it does look awesome but still)I'd say resonance of fate maybe "
I found it enjoyable.  Different strokes for different folks i guess.
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#7  Edited By Jeust
  • Persona 3 and 4
  • Star Ocean: The Last Hope
  • Final Fantasy XII
  • Mass Effect 2
  • Parasite Eve
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#8  Edited By Jimbo

I liked the combat in The Witcher because it made sense to the role you were playing.  Out of context it probably wasn't that great, but in the game you were a professional monster hunter, so the combat was more about knowing what you were going to face and preparing properly for it.  I thought that was a neat approach, using the combat primarily to enhance the immersion of the rest of the game.

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#9  Edited By nintendoeats

Parasite Eve gets my vote. God damn that game is great...

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#10  Edited By Gargantuan

Demon's Souls

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#11  Edited By Lokno

I'm playing Spiral Knights right now, which is a free-to-play MMO that rekindles concepts from the old guard of action RPGs like Secert of Mana. 

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#12  Edited By wolf_blitzer85

I'm playing through Resonance of Fate and so far I have really been enjoying the combat even though it can take a while to get a grasp of it.

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#14  Edited By jayjonesjunior

Knight Online, free MMO (PC)
super addictive and the combat is so goddamn good, the rest is shitty though.

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#15  Edited By Undeadpool

I'm going to agree with The Witcher. Real-time, rhythm-based, more skill than tactics based, but there was some need for tactics.

Dragon Age 2 would also be high on my list.
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The first game that comes to my mind is Demon's Souls.  I like the combat in that game than most games period.

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#17  Edited By Fontan
@Gargantuan said:
" Demon's Souls "
I agree.
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@wolf_blitzer85 said:
" I'm playing through Resonance of Fate and so far I have really been enjoying the combat even though it can take a while to get a grasp of it. "
That'd be my answer ... but is usually is my answer to anything about RPGs. 
It's totally unique and really intense & visually exciting. 
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#19  Edited By Sooty

Persona 3: Portable and 4

I say Persona 3: Portable because the combat in original 3/FES didn't have some of the improvements from 4 in it, which makes it very frustrating and in my opinion considerably inferior.

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#20  Edited By Romination

Any of the Mario RPGs including Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi and Super Mario RPG. They have a sort of active system, not like ATB, where you have to time the presses to do more damage.

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#21  Edited By StarvingGamer

Lots of good mentions already, but no one said FFXIII? Amazing battle system and for many people the only redeeming part of that game.


Also Patapon!
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#22  Edited By unchained

I really enjoyed the combat in The Witcher. Dragon Age 2 had really fun combat. 



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#23  Edited By Icemael

Tales of Eternia and The World Ends With You.

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#24  Edited By QuistisTrepe

Just about any RPG by Tri-Ace has fun combat. Also look into the Shin Megami Tensei line (Persona series, Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner).

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#25  Edited By BulletproofMonk

I really like the combat in Final Fantasy XIII.

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#26  Edited By Lemmycaution217

Resonance of Fate has some awesome gun combat. 

Also Tales games are just fun to play.
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#27  Edited By yoshimitz707

Tales of games have pretty fun combat.

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#28  Edited By jaymorgoth

I really enjoyed the Judgement Ring System in the Shadow Hearts series.  The Legend of Dragoon had some interesting skill based stuff as well. And lastly Eternal Sonata had some fun change ups to the norm.

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#29  Edited By FancySoapsMan
@jaymorgoth said:
" I really enjoyed the Judgement Ring System in the Shadow Hearts series.   "
I actually started playing Shadow Hearts 1 last night, and I also liked the Judgment Ring System. Granted, I only played for two hours, but it was still a pretty unique experience compared to other RPG's.
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#30  Edited By 1p

Eternal Sonata, you guys?

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#31  Edited By plop1920

Legend of Dragoon and Xenogears both had really fun combat systems

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#32  Edited By ShadowKing7

The Mario RPG games have good systems, where you time your button presses for extra damage on offense or to lessen or even completely avoid damage on defense.
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#33  Edited By Oldirtybearon

I'd say Elder Scrolls games, and to some extent Bethesda Fallout. Not necessarily because it's particularly responsive or whatever, but the sheer breadth of options to any given situation is a real treat.


That said, I prefer talking my way out of situations. Fists and swords are for those who lack subtlety. 
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#34  Edited By monetarydread

Wow. Nobody has mentioned the Grandia series yet? That is the best turn-based RPG combat system ever made. 

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#35  Edited By MachoFantastico

Might have already been mentioned, but I was always fond of the combat in Eternal Sonata!

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#36  Edited By Sticky_Pennies

Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story's combat was kind of amazing.

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#37  Edited By SlightConfuse

all of the mario RPG's 


star ocean 3 and 4
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#38  Edited By damodar
@Ygg said:
" Persona 3: Portable and 4I say Persona 3: Portable because the combat in original 3/FES didn't have some of the improvements from 4 in it, which makes it very frustrating and in my opinion considerably inferior. "
P3's combat is definitely lacking in some areas but there are a few combat mechanics that I actually prefer to their 4 incarnation.
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#39  Edited By ectoplasma

I liked the combat in the old party based, turn based (or pseudo turn based) RPGs. Fallout 2, Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Black Eye series, Might and Magic series (even older) all had interesting Combat.

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#40  Edited By GrandHarrier
@Marz said:
" The Witcher + Witcher 2

also kinda enjoyed combat from the Tales series of games. "
Are you kidding me? The Witcher has TERRIBAD combat. If enemy is fast, click fast combat stance. If enemy is slow, click slow combat stance. Click on enemy rhythm game style until dead. Rinse and repeat.

Personally, I've always enjoyed the Tales games, Star Oceans, and SMT "One more turn".
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#41  Edited By buft

Patapon, any of them and dragon quest is fun.

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#42  Edited By Daneian

Final Fantasy 13.  Quick, responsive, streamlined.  Maybe the only really good thing about it.

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#43  Edited By sameeeeam
@Jeust said:

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  • Persona 3 and 4
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@Ygg said:

" Persona 3: Portable and 4I say Persona 3: Portable because the combat in original 3/FES didn't have some of the improvements from 4 in it, which makes it very frustrating and in my opinion considerably inferior. "

I Agree with both of those. Really enjoyed the combat in the Persona games.
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#44  Edited By sameeeeam
@Icemael said:

" Tales of Eternia and The World Ends With You. "

Snap! I've been thinking about TWEWY's battle system for a while now. Couldn't place my finger on it.
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#45  Edited By ChickenPants

Can't believe people are saying the Persona games... boggles the mind.

Anyway, for me: Baldur's Gate series(both the PC and console ones), Dragon Age Series, Demon's Souls, Magicka, Diablo(once you get to higher difficulties), 
The Witcher, Valkyria Chronicles .etc

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#46  Edited By Lemegeton

if you are after something different then def check out Resonance of Fate.
like it or not you wont have seen a battle system like it before

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#47  Edited By Enns

 The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky  you can get it on PSN for PSP.

Not only does it have fun combat, it's also well written and has a great story.

The combat is turn based, but depending on your actions you can jump ahead or fall further back in the order.
You gain combat points as a battle progresses and you use them to use your skills, once your meter is past 100 you can cut in between anyone's turn including enemies to unleash a power finishing skill.
Your combat points always carry over to the next battle. So you can save them for a powerful enemy and try to make quick work of them before they kill you.
It has a materia like system where you add slots to your character to equip orbs that you make from monster drops. The combination of orbs decides what skills you have, and augment other stats.

I hold this game up with Tactics Ogre and Persona 4.

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#49  Edited By FancySoapsMan
@ChickenPants said:
" Can't believe people are saying the Persona games... boggles the mind."
I can't believe you aren't
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#50  Edited By ofcbilly77
  • Persona 4: Turn-based but feels very fast. Challenging enemies keep you on your toes and force you to minimize mistakes. I haven't played P3, but from what I understand is that P4's combat got a few tweaks and improvements from 3 and that P3 only allows you to command the main character, leaving the rest to AI.
  • Final Fantasy X: Another turn-based system. The turn order is given to you and you can manipulate it based on the skills you use. If you play well enough, you can get through a lot of fights without giving the enemy a chance to attack.
  • Tales Series: Action combat where the goal is to string together combos of base attack and "artes" (skills). It is A LOT of fun. Vesperia is a good starting point if you never played anything in the series.
  • Kingdom Hearts: I didn't like the combat variants of the handhelds, but the core games were great. 1 can feel a bit dated, especially with the camera control, but it gives a fair challenge. 2 is really fast-paced, however it can deteriorate into button mashing because the magic is too underpowered to be useful.
  • Eternal Sonata: Action and turn-based combat combined. Each turn gives you set time to execute your attacks Tales style, and depending whether you are in the light or shadows on the battlefield, your skills will change.
  • Paper Mario (NOT Super Paper Mario): Turn-based combat with "action commands". Basically, press buttons as indicated during attacks for extra damage and to defend from enemy attacks.

That's all I can really think of off the top of my head. I really enjoyed all these games, and would definitely recommend them.