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#1 Edited by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

UPDATE 2:

Bridgestone have issued a statement:

Mr. Lambert is one of the actors who appeared in the commercial as a Bridgestone engineer. Bridgestone denies that 'Kevin Butler' appears in the Bridgestone commercial discussed herein and thus denies that he speaks or does anything whatsoever in the commercial.

UPDATE 1:

Sony have issued a statement:

Sony Computer Entertainment America filed a lawsuit against Bridgestone and Wildcat Creek, Inc. on September 11. The claims are based on violations of the Lanham Act, misappropriation, breach of contract and tortious interference with a contractual relationship. We invested significant resources in bringing the Kevin Butler character to life and he’s become an iconic personality directly associated with PlayStation products over the years. Use of the Kevin Butler character to sell products other than those from PlayStation misappropriates Sony’s intellectual property, creates confusion in the market, and causes damage to Sony. - Sony statement

Hilarious..I think they're only are making it worse for themselves, this action will only highlight the case in the broader media channels, potentially giving Nintendo and WiiU more coverage at this prime time.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42927505&postcount=1

sorry, had to bump:
Sony are suing for this! Not only are they suing Bridgestone for the commercial, they're also suing Wildcat Creek, Inc.
Who are they? Well, evidently they're the advertising company hired by Bridgestone for the commercial.
***According tothistheir president is none other than Jerry Lambert.***
Sony sues Kevin Butler lol
Summary
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cal...v04753/258962/
Court filing 1
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...4753/258962/8/
Court filing 2
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...753/258962/14/

Sony should do ad's like those comparison pics, they could call it "Spot the Kevin Butler".

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#2 Posted by JasonR86 (10178 posts) -

Why would they even bother? He isn't helping to sell the Wii. He's an actor in an ad to sell tires. What a fucking waste of resources and time. Plus the bad press because the whole thing looks so moronic.

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#3 Posted by Sploder (918 posts) -

That's preeetty lame, Sony.

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#4 Posted by TheHT (14317 posts) -

*sigh* Stupid shit.

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#5 Posted by xyzygy (10595 posts) -

Wow.

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#6 Posted by John1912 (2393 posts) -

I dont know what happened. I went out to buy a PS3, and came home with a tire!

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#7 Edited by Grissefar (2904 posts) -

So who decided this was a good idea? Probably the same guy who greenlighted the Vita.

ZING!

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#8 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

I think sometimes in any business there are occasions where you just have to bow out gracefully...

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#9 Posted by Phatmac (5930 posts) -

Makes sense. I'm sure there is something in the fine print about not being able to promote competitors in other commercials.

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#10 Edited by BabyChooChoo (6563 posts) -

God-fucking-dammit, Sony. God-fucking-dammit.

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#11 Posted by RandyF (198 posts) -

Unless the guy who plays Kevin Butler signed something which made him exclusive to Sony, I don't even see how there's a case here. He's an actor and he's acting. Are the Kevin Butler commercials even still happening? I haven't seen one in a while. Granted, I don't watch that much TV.

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#12 Posted by Slag (7349 posts) -

I thought this was a joke.

Wow that is dumb by Sony, makes them look dumb (for not having contractually locked up with a non-compete) and petty for something so insignificant.

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#13 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@RandyF said:

Unless the guy who plays Kevin Butler signed something which made him exclusive to Sony, I don't even see how there's a case here. He's an actor and he's acting. Are the Kevin Butler commercials even still happening? I haven't seen one in a while. Granted, I don't watch that much TV.

I believe that the Kevin Butler ad campaign ended some time ago. I don't recall seeing any new ads with the character in quite a while.

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#14 Posted by Draxyle (2019 posts) -

Lawyers being lawyers.

They sort of have the right to do this (we assume there is some contract thing that prevents him from working for Sony's competitors), but it doesn't not make it a really bad idea for Sony. If this were just anyone, it'd be no big deal, but the Kevin Butler character is too "beloved" to attack for something relatively harmless.

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#15 Edited by SomeDeliCook (2353 posts) -

Does this mean no Kevin Butler in All Stars Battle Royale?

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#16 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

@SomeDeliCook said:

Does this mean no Kevin Butler in All Stars Battle Royale?

lol, I'm guessing not, shame.

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#17 Posted by LiquidPrince (16859 posts) -

Wait, I'm confused... What's going on? Why is he being sued?

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#18 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

@LiquidPrince said:

Wait, I'm confused... What's going on? Why is he being sued?

It's in the quote. Jerry Lambert, aka Kevin Butler, is the president of the advertising company in question.

RT@TheKevinButler Good luck in court!

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#19 Posted by sodacat (250 posts) -

Console wars. Console wars never change.

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#20 Posted by TheBioLover (79 posts) -

Wow, overreactions from some people here. This actually makes sense if you think about it.

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#21 Posted by Chaser324 (8080 posts) -

Non-compete clauses are pretty standard these days, and depending on how restrictive and specific it was, this might actually be a slam dunk for Sony attorneys.

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#22 Posted by DukesT3 (2095 posts) -

Haha I did catch that commercial and thought it was funny with him playing on the Wii. Fucking Sony, guess he won't be at next years E3.

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#23 Edited by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

@Chaser324 said:

Non-compete clauses are pretty standard these days, and depending on how restrictive and specific it was, this might actually be a slam dunk for Sony attorneys.

Do you think the president of a advertising company would knowingly break such a clause if it existed in a contract with a high profile company such as Sony?. I personally think Sony suing their mascot is a slam dank of different sort.

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#24 Posted by DarthOrange (4178 posts) -
@John1912 said:

I dont know what happened. I went out to buy a PS3, and came home with a tire!

ha!
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#25 Posted by LiquidPrince (16859 posts) -

@Wong_Fei_Hung said:

@LiquidPrince said:

Wait, I'm confused... What's going on? Why is he being sued?

It's in the quote. Jerry Lambert, aka Kevin Butler, is the president of the advertising company in question.

RT@TheKevinButler Good luck in court!

What has he and his company done to draw the ire of Sony?

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#26 Posted by MiniPato (2821 posts) -

I guess Sony has a right to do it and it probably makes business sense, but it's still pretty damn tasteless if you ask me. The guy behind the PS3's most (maybe only) successful ad campaign getting sued by Sony itself. Hope the monetary gain is worth the bad publicity.

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#27 Posted by Vextroid (1538 posts) -

@LiquidPrince said:

@Wong_Fei_Hung said:

@LiquidPrince said:

Wait, I'm confused... What's going on? Why is he being sued?

It's in the quote. Jerry Lambert, aka Kevin Butler, is the president of the advertising company in question.

RT@TheKevinButler Good luck in court!

What has he and his company done to draw the ire of Sony?

Making a bunch of Bridgestone tyre commercials that promote the Wii.

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#28 Posted by Ghostiet (5832 posts) -

@SomeDeliCook said:

Does this mean no Kevin Butler in All Stars Battle Royale?

Oh God. That's what All-Stars should be in the first place - Tretton, Kaz Hirai, Kevin Butler and Sakaguchi dishing it out.

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#29 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

@John1912 said:

I dont know what happened. I went out to buy a PS3, and came home with a tire and a Wii!

Corrected.

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#30 Posted by mnzy (3044 posts) -

@John1912 said:

I dont know what happened. I went out to buy a PS3, and came home with a tire!

Same thing happened to me and I didn't even realise it before reading your post!

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#31 Posted by deathstriker666 (1349 posts) -

@TheBioLover said:

Wow, overreactions from some people here. This actually makes sense if you think about it.

Yeah, Kevin Butler, the character, is property of Sony just as Nathan Drake or Sackboy. Using it without permission and not paying royalties, which is probably what Sony alleges, very much makes for a legitimate case.

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#32 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

@deathstriker666 said:

@TheBioLover said:

Wow, overreactions from some people here. This actually makes sense if you think about it.

Yeah, Kevin Butler, the character, is property of Sony just as Nathan Drake or Sackboy. Using it without permission and not paying royalties, which is probably what Sony alleges, very much makes for a legitimate case.

How was he playing Kevin Butler in that ad?

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#33 Posted by TooWalrus (13391 posts) -

It's a damn shame, the ad where he 'comes back' is probably the best console ad ever- specifically the part where he pulls the framed photo of Jack Tretton out of his desk and says "you ARE the boss of me."

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#34 Posted by TheVideoHustler (412 posts) -

I know the saying is "Any press is good press."

But it's shit like this that really makes a business look bad.

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#35 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (735 posts) -

UPDATE:

Sony have issued a statement

Sony Computer Entertainment America filed a lawsuit against Bridgestone and Wildcat Creek, Inc. on September 11. The claims are based on violations of the Lanham Act, misappropriation, breach of contract and tortious interference with a contractual relationship. We invested significant resources in bringing the Kevin Butler character to life and he’s become an iconic personality directly associated with PlayStation products over the years. Use of the Kevin Butler character to sell products other than those from PlayStation misappropriates Sony’s intellectual property, creates confusion in the market, and causes damage to Sony. - Sony statement
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#36 Posted by Nightriff (7122 posts) -

I understand where they are coming from on this, personally I don't know why the hell they would get rid of him, the commercials were actually funny, but it is stupid of them to do this.

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#37 Posted by WilliamHenry (1285 posts) -

@Nightriff said:

I understand where they are coming from on this, personally I don't know why the hell they would get rid of him, the commercials were actually funny, but it is stupid of them to do this.

Ad campaigns eventually run their course, usually after people have stopped caring.

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#38 Posted by Spoonman671 (5767 posts) -

Vita really needs some games, guys.

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#39 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5777 posts) -

@Spoonman671 said:

Vita really needs some games, guys.

How about Phoenix Wright with Kevin Butler and the Sony law team.

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#40 Posted by NoobSauceG7 (1387 posts) -

I don't think that is fair to sue the person. He's just a dude, didn't do anything wrong.

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#41 Posted by Nightriff (7122 posts) -

@WilliamHenry said:

@Nightriff said:

I understand where they are coming from on this, personally I don't know why the hell they would get rid of him, the commercials were actually funny, but it is stupid of them to do this.

Ad campaigns eventually run their course, usually after people have stopped caring.

I get that but I was still enjoying those commercials. I don't watch a lot of tv so maybe I didn't see it run its course but they were still funny to me.

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#42 Posted by Dad_Is_A_Zombie (1244 posts) -

It's funny, when I saw this commercial I said to myself "I bet Sony's legal department will have something to say about this..." Guess they did.

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#43 Posted by darkdragonmage99 (744 posts) -

Wait are these guys basically trying to claim they own a man and I thought slavery was over.

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#44 Posted by DoctorWelch (2817 posts) -

Maybe I'm confused because of how stupid this is, but do they have any legal claim to him contractually, or are they just being pissy morons.

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#45 Edited by darkdragonmage99 (744 posts) -

@deathstriker666: character my ass they are trying to a copyright a man's likeness no one ever said the name kevin butler in that commercial the only thing they have to go on is the same man played the part. In other words what they are saying is you are not allowed to work for anyone else because you look like you.

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#46 Edited by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@DoctorWelch said:

Maybe I'm confused because of how stupid this is, but do they have any legal claim to him contractually, or are they just being pissy morons.

They very well might have a claim. His contract might contain a non-compete clause stating that he's prohibited from appearing in advertisements related to rival hardware or software until a specific amount of time has passed. He might have violated the terms of his contract by appearing in this ad.

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#47 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

Well, I hope Lambert wins, I never got the feeling that he was playing Kevin Butler in that tire commercial.

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#48 Posted by bagrm (54 posts) -

Man legal contracts can be strange. He is in a commercial that not only never mentions the name Kevin Butler, but the character also shares no likeness in personality to Kevin Butler, and the commercial is advertising a promotion designed to sell tires, not Wii's. However, I bet Sony has a pretty good case here if there was some clause in his contract about appearing in commericals with rival products.

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#49 Edited by KaneRobot (2668 posts) -

Okay, so it's 1996, Sony is the WWF, Bridgestone Tires is WCW, "Kevin Butler" is "Razor Ramon," and Jerry Lambert is Scott Hall.

...if the next Bridgestone ad has Phil Harrison showing up as Lambert's ally, I'll be...kind of excited.

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#50 Posted by DukesT3 (2095 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@DoctorWelch said:

Maybe I'm confused because of how stupid this is, but do they have any legal claim to him contractually, or are they just being pissy morons.

They very well might have a claim. His contract might contain a non-compete clause stating that he's prohibited from appearing in advertisements related to rival hardware or software until a specific amount of time has passed. He might have violated the terms of his contract by appearing in this ad.

So he just needs a new agent cause its pretty obvious whoever he has now is a moron.