Spontaneous Daggerfall gameplay about to happen

Dave just tweeted that he and Vinny are streaming Daggerfall gameplay in a couple of minutes

http://www.giantbomb.com/chat/

edit: Well, looks like they added it to the front page and it's members only. I guess this heads up wasn't needed.

What what what? Isn't it illegal for them to make money off of streaming a game like that?

it just got taken down from the front page weird

@crusader8463: They've released Daggerfall as a free to download game.

Paid members :(

Paid members only? That's pretty stupid. 

Awesome.

@Mrsignerman44:Just because you aren't a member it doesn't mean that member events are stupid.

@Mrsignerman44:Just because you aren't a member it doesn't mean that member events are stupid.

@Emilio: Member? Heck, you're barely even a person. It costs cold hard cash to join the ranks of the living =(

@Mrsignerman44:Just because you aren't a member it doesn't mean that member events are stupid.

@Emilio: Member? Heck, you're barely even a person. It costs cold hard cash to join the ranks of the living =(

When I opened Giant Bomb I was signed out, which happens sometimes. I saw the Elder Scrolls thing and I clicked it, it said members only. I signed in and for the life of me, couldn't find it anywhere. I had to sign out, look at the link, then sign back in and put the link in my browser.

Soooo, is this the new ER? I heard rumours that they were making that members-only as well.

@crusader8463: They've released Daggerfall as a free to download game.

@crusader8463 said:

@DeeGee said:

@crusader8463: They've released Daggerfall as a free to download game.

That doesn't mean it's legal to make money off people watching them play it. It just means it's free to play.

I doubt they're making money off of it, I would guarantee everyone watching was a subscriber before the stream started.

@Abyssfull:

No, it's something they did because they were bored.

@crusader8463 said:

@DeeGee said:

@crusader8463: They've released Daggerfall as a free to download game.

That doesn't mean it's legal to make money off people watching them play it. It just means it's free to play.

Given that it's only available to those that have already paid, they're not making money directly off of it.

They obviously make money off everything they do, that is how they can run the site. If it as illegal for them to make money off showing video game footage, there would be no Giant Bomb. Nor any other video game website.

@crusader8463 said:

@DeeGee said:

@crusader8463: They've released Daggerfall as a free to download game.

That doesn't mean it's legal to make money off people watching them play it. It just means it's free to play.

I doubt they're making money off of it, I would guarantee everyone watching was a subscriber before the stream started.

@crusader8463 said:

@DeeGee said:

@crusader8463: They've released Daggerfall as a free to download game.

That doesn't mean it's legal to make money off people watching them play it. It just means it's free to play.

Given that it's only available to those that have already paid, they're not making money directly off of it.

@crusader8463: I think you are taking the whole thing a little too seriously.

They've streamed plenty of games on the Happy Hour before.

@crusader8463: Are you feeling alright? Maybe you should go outside and walk around for a while.

Damn it! I just had to mow my lawn. Hoped it's archived :(

The fucking Skeleton scream is going to haunt my nightmares for a very long time.

Ah. So Quicklook Throwbacks are now only for people who pay. That's totally not going against what they originally said about not taking away existing free stuff or anything...

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Ah. So Quicklook Throwbacks are now only for people who pay. That's totally not going against what they originally said about not taking away existing free stuff or anything...

nobody has said that. it wasn't labeled a quicklook in any context.

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Ah. So Quicklook Throwbacks are now only for people who pay. That's totally not going against what they originally said about not taking away existing free stuff or anything...

It was a spontaneous thing I think. Not sure if it's a Quicklook Throwback.

It was also two hours long, not really a quick look.

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Ah. So Quicklook Throwbacks are now only for people who pay. That's totally not going against what they originally said about not taking away existing free stuff or anything...

nobody has said that. it wasn't labeled a quicklook in any context.

@sofacitysweetheart said:

@Fistfulofmetal said:

@sofacitysweetheart said:

Ah. So Quicklook Throwbacks are now only for people who pay. That's totally not going against what they originally said about not taking away existing free stuff or anything...

nobody has said that. it wasn't labeled a quicklook in any context.

A Quick Look by any other name would still be a Quick Look :/

Vinny was in the office doing some work setting up a computer for the new video guy who starts next week. Dave was doing whatever thing he was working on. They got to talking about Daggerfall and decided they were going to check it out. They also figured that they might as well stream it out to members. It just sort of happened. Sorry that you didn't get a quick look out of it. I had to leave the stream early, but at the beginning they didn't seem sure about whether or not it would be archived. It may not be their decision to make. The game is free, check it out yourself.

@crusader8463: You keep bringing up comparisons to things that are illegal whether they are beyond a paywall or not. You can't host piracy torrents for free or stream out movies and still be within the law. What does the paywall have to do with it? Are you suggesting that Quick Looks in general aren't legal?

@crusader8463: I think you are taking the whole thing a little too seriously.

@crusader8463: Streaming a movie and streaming footage of a video game are very different things. Also, it's kind of what half the website is based on, I don't understand what would make this occurrence stand out to you specifically. They've been doing Quick Looks for years, and while those are free it's still done for the benefit of the site, a business. Pay wall or not, that would have been illegal by your (incorrect) logic, as GB has never been a non-profit organization.

@crusader8463: Are you feeling alright? Maybe you should go outside and walk around for a while.

@crusader8463: You keep bringing up comparisons to things that are illegal whether they are beyond a paywall or not. You can't host piracy torrents for free or stream out movies and still be within the law. What does the paywall have to do with it? Are you suggesting that Quick Looks in general aren't legal?

@crusader8463 said:

@louiedog said:

@crusader8463: You keep bringing up comparisons to things that are illegal whether they are beyond a paywall or not. You can't host piracy torrents for free or stream out movies and still be within the law. What does the paywall have to do with it? Are you suggesting that Quick Looks in general aren't legal?

The pay wall is the whole point. It went from a site showing a few minuets of video game footage to show people some info on it, to it now being a feature people are paying them money to watch. If Microsoft started showing 30 min previews of games on xbox live and charging people to watch it they would have to get permission from the companies first before they did it and probably give them a kick back. I'm just worried that if/when the people who own the rights to this game get a wiff of this they will get sue happy and it will come back to bite the guys in the ass.

What you seem to miss, and the point that I was making, is that your examples were all things that are illegal to do whether they are behind a paywall or not. It didn't make any sense. If you want to play devil's advocate and debate something for fun, at least try to come up with something rational.

I also don't think they're going to start doing this for games. It was a spur of the moment thing with a 15-year-old freeware game. Relax.

@crusader8463: I honestly doubt it's going to come back to bite them, I figure someone there would be smart enough to know and considering how often they do it, I very much doubt it'll pop up as an issue. Besides, Bethesda isn't in the business of making money off of Daggerfall, had they shown Skyrim through some witchcraft, that'd be a different story.