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#1 Posted by Gladiator_Games (536 posts) -

Help me out! I cant decide which to get! :(

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#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (36564 posts) -

Final Fantasy Tactics and War of the Lion are pretty much the same game, and they both rip from Let Us Cling Together. So get the last two.

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#3 Posted by casper_ (915 posts) -

tactics ogre but get some disgaea games at some point too they are probably cheap as fuck

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#4 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

Final Fantasy Tactics and War of the Lion are pretty much the same game, and they both rip from Let Us Cling Together. So get the last two.

They aren't "pretty much" the same game, they are the same game. The only difference is that War of the Lions has a vastly improved translation and some extra content. There's literally no reason to get the original version of FFT if War of the Lions is available.

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#5 Posted by Gladiator_Games (536 posts) -

Sounds like it might be Tactics Ogre then!

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#6 Posted by MikeGosot (3237 posts) -

Tactics Ogre. Everyday. All day.

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#7 Posted by mosespippy (4751 posts) -

Jeanne D'Arc

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#8 Posted by MiniPato (2820 posts) -

Haven't played too much of War of the Lions. But I've been playing Tactics Ogre: LUCT. Been loving the gameplay and writing.

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#9 Posted by AndrewB (7814 posts) -

Don't choose. Get both! They're both really good. But if you chose Tactics Ogre, you made a good choice.

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#10 Posted by Phatmac (5930 posts) -

Tactics Advanced!

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#11 Posted by AltonBrown (1006 posts) -

Dude, Tactics Ogre.

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#12 Posted by EthanielRain (1332 posts) -

Tactics Ogre is my choice, all the way.

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

But you really can't go wrong with this or FFT either. All solid, there's no bad choice here :)

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#13 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

I really wanted to like that game, but it burned me out when I had to spend way to much time fighting that asshole Talbot.

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#14 Posted by Towers (97 posts) -

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

This. I love FFT but Jeanne D'Arc was an awesome experience.

Still haven't got my hands on LUCT. :(

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#15 Posted by StarvingGamer (11360 posts) -

FFT is basically Tactics Ogre with significantly improved design. If you plan on playing both, play Tactics Ogre first because going in the other direction is going to be really hard. If you're only getting one, get FFT.

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#16 Edited by Marz (6016 posts) -

Can't go wrong with either game, Tactics Ogre remake is the more recent game(and older game of the two). FF Tactics is still one of my favorite games and story though.

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#17 Posted by CJduke (902 posts) -

Disgaea!

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#18 Posted by Slay3r1583 (733 posts) -

Disgaea 1 or 2

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#19 Posted by coakroach (2497 posts) -

Both are heavy time investments, but Tactics Ogre has the superior story so i'd go with that.

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#20 Posted by lead_farmer (1076 posts) -

@Gladiator_Games said:

Sounds like it might be Tactics Ogre then!

Good call. Such a great game.

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#21 Posted by QuistisTrepe (633 posts) -

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

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#22 Edited by Adaurin (199 posts) -

Hey, if you like Rock, Paper, Scissors: KARTIA. It's like they turned the Alex Kidd boss battles into a Strategy RPG.

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#23 Posted by viking_funeral (2599 posts) -
@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.
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#24 Posted by Turambar (7996 posts) -

I'm not the biggest fan of LUCT's character leveling structure, but its still a pretty great game.

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#25 Posted by Turambar (7996 posts) -
@Paul_Is_Drunk said:
@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.
Let's not mince words here.  "Terrible" is the exact opposite of the proper adjective for the game.
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#26 Edited by QuistisTrepe (633 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@mosespippy said:

Jeanne D'Arc

I really wanted to like that game, but it burned me out when I had to spend way to much time fighting that asshole Talbot.

It had potential, but the game lacked anything resembling an actual challenge.

@Paul_Is_Drunk said:

@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.

I played through the game wondering why the gameplay was trapped in the same era where it was originally released. Locking up the class skills the way they did was absurd. It took the strategy out of the concept of a strategy game. Item creation felt tacked on and the battle spam at the last area was ridiculous. A 10-part battle of normal encounters isn't epic, it's a waste of time.

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#27 Edited by StarvingGamer (11360 posts) -

@QuistisTrepe said:

@Paul_Is_Drunk said:

@QuistisTrepe

Definitely FFT/Lions. Tactics Ogre was just plain terrible.

Terrible? Not the same game, maybe, but terrible is a strong choice of words.

I played through the game wondering why the gameplay was trapped in the same era where it was originally released. Locking up the class skills the way they did was absurd. It took the strategy out of the concept of a strategy game. Item creation felt tacked on and the battle spam at the last area was ridiculous. A 10-part battle of normal encounters isn't epic, it's a waste of time.

I have the same general complaints about it that you do, but I think it'ss still one of the better games of that type out there. But yeah, FFT is definitely a superior experience in every regard.

EDIT: Also your avatar is a big letdown after reading your username.

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#28 Posted by DocHaus (2339 posts) -

That's a funny way of spelling "Yggdra Union" everybody.

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#29 Posted by Giefcookie (654 posts) -

Tactics Ogre removes some of the annoyances I have with the genre, namely getting xp/ability points/ whatever character progress only on the character that delivers the killing blow.

Between FF Tactics WotL and Tactics Ogre I'd go with TO. Its in my opinion still the most advanced Tactical RPG to date. And its dirt cheap.

If you like / don't mind the anime style, you should also look into Disgaea (3 or 4) just because of the craziness.

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#30 Posted by vonFlampanker (352 posts) -

Currently playing through Tactics Ogre and it's good. What's more there's a lot of it. Some medium level annoyances including the fact that it's sometimes hard to get new units up to speed since you level the jobs, not the units. Want your level 14 Warrior to switch to Dragoon? Back to 1 he goes. Unless I'm missing something important, that's a major headache.

FFT is good (I forget if it has the "killing blow unit gets the XP" thing). Whoever suggested Jeanne D'Arc is correct as well. That's a very enjoyable game.

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#31 Posted by ArbitraryWater (14685 posts) -

Both are lengthy SRPGs that gain their length through you being unable to speed up animations, and in the case of FFT, obligatory grinding. Also they were made by the same team only a few years apart. That being said, the PSP remake of Tactics Ogre is incredibly solid, for whatever faults I may have with it. The PSP port of FFT has some nasty slowdown during the (unskippable) spell animations. Also it's hella grindy.

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#32 Posted by Canteu (2968 posts) -

War of the Lion is the same game as Tactics.

So get Disgaea 2 instead.

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#33 Posted by D_W (1735 posts) -
Vandal Hearts 2. FFT doesn't really have much strategy involved other than grinding out levels.
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#34 Posted by Slag (7349 posts) -

@StarvingGamer said:

FFT is basically Tactics Ogre with significantly improved design. If you plan on playing both, play Tactics Ogre first because going in the other direction is going to be really hard. If you're only getting one, get FFT.

This