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#1 Posted by projectino (77 posts) -

I'm talking about days where we get very little content added to the site. I can kind of see Patrick doing work on those sort of days, but what does Jeff, Ryan and Brad do? On these days we get the random trailer post and MAYBE a news article coming from Patrick, but nothing from the others. I'm not trying to complain or anything of that nature, i've just always been slightly interested.

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#2 Posted by Vexxan (4634 posts) -

They make the content, perhaps? I doubt Quick Looks or other video features are shot and released on the same day but I could be wrong.

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#3 Edited by Sweep (10202 posts) -

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

EDIT: Due to the ridiculous amount of indignant replies I got for this seemingly trivial topic, I should clarify: This was a vague, random guess. I appreciate that for most of the videos on the site the time will be a lot less than this.

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#4 Posted by laserbolts (5506 posts) -

@Sweep: Really? Damn they do some amazing editing then because it seems like it's all in one shot when you watch it.

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#5 Posted by kindgineer (3089 posts) -

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

Pretty much this. You see this mentality with the Youtube crowd a lot, where they think video's spawn out of nowhere or everyone has the time to do live streams 24/7. I'm sure they are cooking things up and these things take time. It's a professional site, they want professional material. Even if some of that professional material is dudes playing a card game on TV and for some reason we want to watch that.

Which I do.

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#6 Posted by ShaggE (8448 posts) -

It usually involves tricycles, alcohol, ill-fitting derby hats, and dubstep.

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#7 Posted by NTM (9930 posts) -

They just sit there eating, drinking, and talking about games and other stuff until there's a game to play. Just kidding.

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#8 Posted by Gamer_152 (14501 posts) -

My guess would be making that content. I doubt every piece of content is made from start to finish and uploaded on the same day.

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#9 Posted by Dagbiker (7044 posts) -

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

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#10 Posted by Still_I_Cry (2521 posts) -

Drink Fizzies.

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#11 Posted by Sweep (10202 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

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#12 Edited by mnzy (3045 posts) -

I know Jeff does alot of wiki work. Also, I imagine that Quick Looks and features they do need quite some paper work. And they gotta play some games.

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#13 Posted by InternetCrab (1581 posts) -

Writing reviews, news, playing games for quicklooks (making content).

I would also like to see the GB staff on their vacation.

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#14 Posted by Dagbiker (7044 posts) -

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

No, I actually think that it takes Vinny probably 20 minuets by now to edit those videos down.

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#15 Posted by Justin258 (14487 posts) -

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

I'm not challenging Vinny, but what could possible take so long? Record it, make sure everything looks and works right, upload it and then you're done. At least, that's how I always thought the process worked. Apparently there's something I don't understand.

On-topic: Probably some mundane things. Answer e-mails, talk, grab coffee, go have a wank, and maybe play some video games.

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#16 Posted by Spoonman671 (5801 posts) -

Gang bang.

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#17 Posted by flasaltine (2456 posts) -

@Sweep: It doesn't take 3 hours to record a 40 minute quick look.

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#18 Posted by crimsonclown (156 posts) -

@Sweep: Why would they play for so long when they know it's going to get cut down? Very rarely are there cuts in quick looks, even when they have to go back to the dash or load into a new level to show off a different part of the game, there usually isn't a transition. I always got the impression that what we see is pretty much what they record, with a bit of fat trimmed at the beginning and end. And if they did have that much footage, I'd imagine we wouldn't get those rare train-wreck quick looks like Lego Batman 2.

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#19 Posted by AhmadMetallic (19301 posts) -

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

I thought quick looks were uncut. Otherwise why do so many of them have 10-30 minutes of aimless fumbling?

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#20 Posted by Dagbiker (7044 posts) -

I Imagin a lot of their day is

  1. 1% Planing the day
  2. 15% Playing games,
  3. 15% Writing,
  4. 10% Dicking Around,
  5. 10% Meatings,
  6. 49% Anwesering Emails and Administration

But this is just me guessing bassed on what I see in the ILM's

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#21 Posted by Irvandus (3170 posts) -

What they do every day, plan to take over the world!

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#22 Posted by BaneFireLord (3264 posts) -

Tequila shots.

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#23 Posted by Jimbo (10472 posts) -
@ck1nd said:

It's a professional site, they want professional material.

Riiiight....
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#24 Edited by kindgineer (3089 posts) -

@Jimbo said:

@ck1nd said:

It's a professional site, they want professional material.

Riiiight....

Lol, professionalism has nothing to do with suits, ties, and news-worthy content :) It just means you do something for a living, it's your profession.

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#25 Posted by DeF (5376 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

10% Meatings,

so ... lunch? :)

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#26 Posted by Dagbiker (7044 posts) -

@DeF said:

@Dagbiker said:

10% Meatings,

so ... lunch? :)

I was put lunch with Dicking Around.

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#27 Edited by GJSmitty (685 posts) -

@believer258 said:

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

I'm not challenging Vinny, but what could possible take so long? Record it, make sure everything looks and works right, upload it and then you're done. At least, that's how I always thought the process worked. Apparently there's something I don't understand.

You have to render videos when you are done editing them. This takes a long time. I know for me it takes sometimes over an hour to render a 10 minute video, which would mean a 40 minute video would take 4 hours or more. But they probably have better hardware, so it will take slightly less time, but it is still something that adds to the time.

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#28 Posted by ch3burashka (6087 posts) -

Practice their juggling skills. They're up to flaming bowling pins now.

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#29 Posted by Dagbiker (7044 posts) -

@GJSmitty said:

@believer258 said:

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

I'm not challenging Vinny, but what could possible take so long? Record it, make sure everything looks and works right, upload it and then you're done. At least, that's how I always thought the process worked. Apparently there's something I don't understand.

You have to render videos when you are done editing them. This takes a long time. I know for me it takes sometimes over an hour to render a 10 minute video, which would mean a 40 minute video would take 4 hours or more. But they probably have better hardware, so it will take slightly less time, but it is still something that adds to the time.

You are partially correct, If you add effects to the video you must render it out. But most of the Quick looks do not have effects on them. So the only rendering they are doing are the fades, if any. Which take seconds.

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#30 Posted by Sweep (10202 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

@GJSmitty said:

@believer258 said:

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

I'm not challenging Vinny, but what could possible take so long? Record it, make sure everything looks and works right, upload it and then you're done. At least, that's how I always thought the process worked. Apparently there's something I don't understand.

You have to render videos when you are done editing them. This takes a long time. I know for me it takes sometimes over an hour to render a 10 minute video, which would mean a 40 minute video would take 4 hours or more. But they probably have better hardware, so it will take slightly less time, but it is still something that adds to the time.

You are partially correct, If you add effects to the video you must render it out. But most of the Quick looks do not have effects on them. So the only rendering they are doing are the fades, if any. Which take seconds.

At this point I should probably point out that I'm just guessing. It's not like I'm sitting there with a stopwatch :|

And, obviously, some videos are going to take longer to edit than others. The E3 videos, for example, would take a lot longer than a 30 minute recording of Jeff running round the office with an iPhone camera.

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#31 Posted by OneManX (1713 posts) -

@GJSmitty said:

@believer258 said:

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

I'm not challenging Vinny, but what could possible take so long? Record it, make sure everything looks and works right, upload it and then you're done. At least, that's how I always thought the process worked. Apparently there's something I don't understand.

You have to render videos when you are done editing them. This takes a long time. I know for me it takes sometimes over an hour to render a 10 minute video, which would mean a 40 minute video would take 4 hours or more. But they probably have better hardware, so it will take slightly less time, but it is still something that adds to the time.

Rendering/uploading is basically the bulk of the time when doing videos. One Youtube video can take about an hour, and you get into longer vids, longer rendering times, and upload times, then upload it to the site, then process. Could take awhile. I'm sure they have the editing down to science, but the other is just things you can't speed up.

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#32 Posted by Jimbo (10472 posts) -
@ck1nd said:

@Jimbo said:

@ck1nd said:

It's a professional site, they want professional material.

Riiiight....

Lol, professionalism has nothing to do with suits, ties, and news-worthy content :) It just means you do something for a living, it's your profession.

That's how you're using it in the first instance, not in the second instance.
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#33 Posted by rachelepithet (1646 posts) -

Theyre sent on journeys through time to preserve old, forgotten video games of yesteryear.

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#34 Posted by GJSmitty (685 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

@GJSmitty said:

@believer258 said:

@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

I'm not challenging Vinny, but what could possible take so long? Record it, make sure everything looks and works right, upload it and then you're done. At least, that's how I always thought the process worked. Apparently there's something I don't understand.

You have to render videos when you are done editing them. This takes a long time. I know for me it takes sometimes over an hour to render a 10 minute video, which would mean a 40 minute video would take 4 hours or more. But they probably have better hardware, so it will take slightly less time, but it is still something that adds to the time.

You are partially correct, If you add effects to the video you must render it out. But most of the Quick looks do not have effects on them. So the only rendering they are doing are the fades, if any. Which take seconds.

But don't they have to render any footage that they record? They add that "Quick Look" intro at the beginning of each video, which then requires the entirety of the footage to be rendered out into one video, which, no matter what effects are added, will take awhile.

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#35 Posted by Bait003 (51 posts) -

making runs for the taco truck (takes longer now...no interns)

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#36 Posted by AuthenticM (4308 posts) -

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

I recall Vinny saying that he loved Quicklooks because they didn't require any editing at all. He then singled out video reviews as very time-consuming precisely because of editing, which is why we don't see them often.

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#37 Posted by redcream (833 posts) -

We need a response from one of the staff to get a decent answer.

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#38 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

Are you saying they have 5 different takes for a quick look? I think your wrong. This site really doesn't have enough news, I wish they did then I would be able to stop visiting Kotaku.com completely.

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#39 Posted by face15 (1377 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

  1. 10% Meatings

Nothing like a good old fashioned Meating. Haha.

On topic though I think there is very rarely a day where there's not much content. Mondays and Tuesdays are often a bit dry but that's just cause they aren't making content on the weekend so nothing goes up Monday and they are recording the Bombcast on Monday so nothing goes up on Tuesday but that. Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays are then usually pretty full of content.

When they do get time when they're not recording video or writing I imagine they are probably playing games for review, responding to emails, making plans and browsing the web for any news.

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#40 Posted by nail1080 (2025 posts) -

@AuthenticM said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

I recall Vinny saying that he loved Quicklooks because they didn't require any editing at all. He then singled out video reviews as very time-consuming precisely because of editing, which is why we don't see them often.

this, the mod is so very wrong

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#41 Posted by Little_Socrates (5844 posts) -

@Bourbon_Warrior: Just use Polygon, they certainly have higher quality news than Kotaku and also write more than GB.

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#42 Posted by Hizang (9358 posts) -

Drinking.

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#43 Posted by TwoLines (3515 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

I Imagin a lot of their day is

  1. 1% Planing the day
  2. 15% Playing games,
  3. 15% Writing,
  4. 10% Dicking Around,
  5. 10% Meatings,
  6. 49% Anwesering Emails and Administration

But this is just me guessing bassed on what I see in the ILM's

Mmmmm... Meatings... *drools*

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#44 Edited by Cloudenvy (5893 posts) -

I could really go for a meating...

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#45 Posted by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

Write reviews, editorials and play video games?

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#46 Posted by CookieMonster (2517 posts) -

The answer you want lies in the "GiantBomb fan fic".

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#47 Posted by Turambar (8011 posts) -
@Sweep said:

@Dagbiker said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

If it takes 6 hours to edit that, then they need a new editor. Because I could cut that up in about an hour.

...Are you challenging Vinny? Because that will not end well for you.

Vinny specifically said he loves quicklooks because he doesn't need to edit it.  Just turn on the camera and go.
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#48 Edited by csl316 (14056 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Sweep said:

I seem to remember Brad once saying that 90% of his day is spent sending/answering emails. After that it's recording content, playing games for review, and writing reviews.

Also, don't underestimate how long those videos take to make. For a 40 minute Quick Look they are probably recording for a good 3 hours, and editing for maybe twice that time.

I thought quick looks were uncut. Otherwise why do so many of them have 10-30 minutes of aimless fumbling?

My thoughts exactly.

And when people talk about rendering, you don't have to sit there and do nothing for an hour while it goes (unless it fails for some reason). I'm assuming as it renders, they're probably doing other stuff in between.

People that are curious about editing might want to check out a video Screened did back in the day. It was about Joey's editing process, which was actually way more time consuming than a Quick Look. Here's Editing with Joey. And here's something that would be the equivalent of a video review or something.

Edit: Ok, Joey actually goes into what he can do while rendering in video #2.

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#49 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5150 posts) -

@Cloudenvy said:

I could really go for a meating...

All I had today is rice pudding and this "meating" thing really made me want some meat.

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#50 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7097 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

I Imagin a lot of their day is

  1. 1% Planing the day
  2. 15% Playing games,
  3. 15% Writing,
  4. 10% Dicking Around,
  5. 10% Meatings,
  6. 49% Anwesering Emails and Administration

But this is just me guessing bassed on what I see in the ILM's

What does a Meating constitute? And Planing sounds like a fun time.