What is the dumbest story moment you have seen in an RPG?

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For me its Final Fantasy 13: To stop the main villains plan one of the party members (Vanille I think) suggest that they do nothing. Why you ask.... well its simply because they won't do what the villain wants them to do which is killing him(Don't ask why its stupid beyond reason). But no they make things wore by doing what the villain wants them to do which is kill him so the world will end, and the group believe they are doing the right thing by killing him.

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Star Ocean 3 4D space.

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#3  Edited By militantfreudian

Late game Fallout 4 spoilers

Father freeing your character to see just how far his parent will go to find his/her son, supposedly as a "social experiment."

I'm pretty sure that that's not the dumbest moment I've experienced in a video game, but that's the most recent one.

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#4  Edited By BisonHero

Like, at least 75% of Tales of Symphonia. I've watched and liked some anime in my day, but I can't stand all of the lame, shallow tropes that most of the characters embody. "Oh dawg, you thought you were escorting the chosen magic lady to the various temples to restore balance, but OH SHIT actually the angels are corrupt and you've been helping the villains all along!" Barf. Sorry if I wasn't impressed by you flipping the script, game, but it's lame no matter which way you flip it.

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#5  Edited By Turambar

Nothing's been quite as infuriating as the ending of Fallout 3 with a robotic or mutant companion.

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@dudeglove : FFIX and FFXII were such forgettable experiences for me that I can't even remember where the plot loses track because I can't remember anything about them.

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#8  Edited By Tennmuerti

95% of Fallout 3 and like 80% of Fallout 4. Hey it's an improvement!

Oh yea, how can we forget the ME3 ending which managed to eclipse the giant human smoothie, reaper baby at the end of 2 with it's idiocy.

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#9  Edited By BabyChooChoo

There's a particular moment, or lack thereof, in FFXIV that will bother me for all eternity.

Long story short, you and your super special comrades (I'll come back to this later on...) are framed for murder (regicide to be more specific) by poison. Shit goes down, you're publicly arrested, you escape, and in the process you all get separated and it's hinted that some of them may have possibly died in the process. Admittedly, that part of the story was fucking fantastic...but then this happens...

Okay, so later on it is revealed the "murder" was a trick to oust a government official and the person you thought was killed is actually totally fine. Well, there was an actual murder planned by said government official, but someone else caught wind and wanted to use the opportunity to get the traitor killed because they knew her bodyguard would be enraged at the news of her death. Okay, makes sense so far, right?

Here's where I start to lose my shit: after everything is revealed, literally no one mentions what happened to you or your friends. No one mentions that you were arrested, the guards tried to publicly kill your friends and/or that now they're all missing. At this point in the story, all your friends could be dead for all anyone knows, but neither you, any of your other remaining friends, or any of the people involved in that convoluted scheme say anything that acknowledges that you were even there.

If you were just a bunch of nobodies, that'd be one thing, but you and your missing comrades are practically the goddamn Justice League/Avengers. When shit goes south, people call you up to fix it. Literally everyone how matters is aware of that fact too, but this just doesn't come up during this one specific situation for some reason. No one even offers up a simple "I hope no serious shit goes down or we're screwed, am I right?"

What's even more baffling is that, outside of that one scene, the rest of the story constantly reminds you that your friends are missing. Characters saying shit like "Don't give up hope! I'm sure we'll find them soon!" or "I think I found a lead! Go do this shit quest!" For the life of me, I just can't figure out that why in the scene that is directly related to the incident that caused all your friends to go missing, no one mentions you or your goddamn friends at all. No one offers to fucking help. No one says sorry. Nothing. It's literally like the story forgot what happens during the one scene where it matters the most. It is the most clusterfuckiest of plot holes I've ever seen.

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#10  Edited By ProfessorEss

Every moment of the two hours of Enchanted Arms. Then I turned it off forever.

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#11  Edited By ArtisanBreads

@tennmuerti said:

Oh yea, how can we forget the ME3 ending which managed to eclipse the giant human smoothie, reaper baby at the end of 2 with it's idiocy.

haha I do not think it did. That was going to be my post. I felt the whole end of 2 was a bummer. None of that made sense and it looked really goofy and out of place on top of that, therefore the whole mission was questionable and it was hardly a suicide mission anyways. There's other bad ones in RPGs that may come to my mind later but that really sticks out. I still remember how I felt when the human reaper first came into view. I thought ".... really?" in a way I never have in a game.

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Seymour rolling around apparently as a healthy dead person messes me up. Especially as his unsent Dad was all zombie and stuff.

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@zombiepie:

I was just about to say FF8. Other than the fact that I didn't like any of the characters or the gameplay, the part that really got me was the orphanage. That every character knew each other they just couldn't recall it. Ugh.

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So this is a Spoiler for Tales of the Abyss, which is a pretty great game. But...........

So one of your party members, a guy named Guy, is a handsome dashing swordsman type. Women everywhere swoon for him and try to hug/hang off of him, yet he hates women touching him. He's not gay, he just doesn't like the physical act of females touching him. The idea is kind of funny- handsome guy afraid of girls like a young kid- and the other party members make light hearted jokes at his expense. It's slightly charming in the way that all Tales games are slightly charming. However later in the game you find out that the reason he hates touching women is because when he was a young kid his sisters and maids all died on top of him to protect him from some sort of massacre. Everyone in the party starts to feel real shitty about all the jokes they made and apologize and that's kind of it, it's a real bummer.

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In FFIX, I'm not sure if I'm remembering well but, basically, when the heroine says they mustn't kill her adoptive evil mother even if not killing her means the death and destruction of everybody and everything, because, you know, it's her mother after all.

Also, for me, the whole "story" of FFXIII is so dumb I can't pinpoint a particular moment.

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So this is a Spoiler for Tales of the Abyss, which is a pretty great game. But...........

So one of your party members, a guy named Guy, is a handsome dashing swordsman type. Women everywhere swoon for him and try to hug/hang off of him, yet he hates women touching him. He's not gay, he just doesn't like the physical act of females touching him. The idea is kind of funny- handsome guy afraid of girls like a young kid- and the other party members make light hearted jokes at his expense. It's slightly charming in the way that all Tales games are slightly charming. However later in the game you find out that the reason he hates touching women is because when he was a young kid his sisters and maids all died on top of him to protect him from some sort of massacre. Everyone in the party starts to feel real shitty about all the jokes they made and apologize and that's kind of it, it's a real bummer.

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So this is a Spoiler for Tales of the Abyss, which is a pretty great game. But...........

So one of your party members, a guy named Guy, is a handsome dashing swordsman type. Women everywhere swoon for him and try to hug/hang off of him, yet he hates women touching him. He's not gay, he just doesn't like the physical act of females touching him. The idea is kind of funny- handsome guy afraid of girls like a young kid- and the other party members make light hearted jokes at his expense. It's slightly charming in the way that all Tales games are slightly charming. However later in the game you find out that the reason he hates touching women is because when he was a young kid his sisters and maids all died on top of him to protect him from some sort of massacre. Everyone in the party starts to feel real shitty about all the jokes they made and apologize and that's kind of it, it's a real bummer.

Is that dumb..? It just seems kind of depressing.

I seem to recall way more moments in that game where it's just like "Oh god what are you people doing".

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When those giant phallic-looking things hail you in Dark Souls.

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@zombiepie: You're not wrong.

The entirety of NIS's library. It's all dumb anime bullshit in the worst possible way, but the gameplay is so good.

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Digital Devil Saga 2, The Sun.

Everyone is dead, and the protagonist and love interest fuse together and you fight with the ghosts of your dead friends. They make good on it because you fight God at the end

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In Front Mission 3, you basically commit acts of terrorism for the first couple hours because your adopted sister is working for the military, and there was an explosion in a military test facility. Didn't even try to call her, just went straight to storming a military base for no reason.

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Star Ocean 3 4D space.

This. Also, I'd add Star Ocean 4 in its entirety. It's like one big dumb moment stretched over 50 hours.

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The end of Deus Ex Human Revolution

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The whole story for Tales of Xillia 2. Not because it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but because it's possibly one of the darkest premises I've ever seen while the rest of the game dosen't want to change its tone to reflect that. What makes it worse is that I really liked Tales of Xillia and its ending, wich had a pretty positive outlook on things and playing Xillia 2 kind of soils it a bit. Still haven't finished it.

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#29  Edited By ArbitraryWater

The ending of Mass Effect 3 might still stand out in my mind as one of the most disappointing "dropped the ball" moments in video game storytelling, but in terms of raw dumb, the final act of Dragon Age 2 is probably a bigger pratfall on Bioware's part. I might defend parts of that game, but it's pretty clear that the writers either ran out of ideas or didn't have enough time to revise their draft, because DA 2 ends with a church blowing up and your character having to choose between two equally loopy factions who turn on you regardless of which side you pick. And then the Knight Commander lady uses her super evil mega sword to attack you with statues? It's really dumb.

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#30  Edited By Fredchuckdave

@dudeglove said:

FF9 loses the plot after the first disc. Then a huge tree appears and there's something about a crystal because... reasons...

The plot moments are also extremely disparate at that point, disc one's good though. Every PS Final Fantasy is great on the first disc then gets worse afterward story wise. Fitting that Tactics has the best non voice story ever and Vagrant Story is probably number 2, both single disc games.

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#31  Edited By katpottz

FFV: Exdeath's entire story

After the big bad was defeated a long time ago everyone sealed the evil spirits in a tree. This tree became self aware and turned into a warlock, later turns into a splinter, turns back into tree on his own accord, then after getting spit out of a black hole turns into a giant blob of monsters.

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Mostly JRPGs mentioned here. Now I'm even more scared to try them out.

Is Dragon's Dogma a JRPG though? I'm playing that on PC and enjoying that.

As for a dumb moment.. I guess I'd have to go with ME3 as well. All that good work... wasted in a 20 second montage of Shephard's crew trying to run away as fast as possible. Joker going "nope" and getting the hell out of there was kinda tragically funny

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@armaan8014: Dragon's Dogma has some pretty crazy story beats, especially the post game stuff. (and yes it's a JRPG)

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@katpottz: Hope I enjoy them! Something along the lines of deadly premonition would be quite enjoyable

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I love the amount of Final Fantasy being mentioned - back when I played those games I was so blindly in love with the series I just accepted everything as wonderful and clever. Looking back...... those games were packed hard with some dumb anime shit.

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#36  Edited By katpottz

@armaan8014: yeah it's pretty much on that level except medieval fantasy.

Also what's the deal with all these trees in crazy JRPG plot's? (FF9, Darkcloud, FF5, Deadly Premonition.)

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In "The Answer" (I think it was called?) bit of Persona 3 FES where the main characters suddenly decide to put saving the world on hold and start fighting each other.

I stopped playing right there and never went back.

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Not the dumbest moment from a story perspective... but certainly really silly, and one of Nolan North's, um, "finest" performances:

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In Final Fantasy VIII, your team is protected from being torn apart by space/time by believing in friendship.

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I feel like I've somehow looped back around on the JRPG story appreciation ride where now I just get a bizarre enjoyment out of the dumb stuff that happens.

Dragon Age 2 on the other hand, had one big hot mess of an ending that was just one continuous stretch of 'What is happening and why would you do this' because really who choose to side with either of the factions there and also why do both faction leaders just LOSE THEIR SHIT in respective ridiculous ways for no earned story reason? Man. That game.

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Probably the entire third act of Dragon Age 2.

Not only do the leaders of the Mages and the Templars makes the worst decisions possible (making it a shit choice to side with either) it basically sets up the precedent that you have to take sides. Seriously there's no middle of the road options. It's either Mages bad Templars good, or Mages good Templars bad. Plus that game takes one of the best characters in Dragon Age Origins: Awakening and ruins him.

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This thread became the FF highlight factory real quick lol.

The ending of the original Golden Sun was pretty damn dumb, as the main villains end up fusing into a two headed dragon you have to kill, only to find out in the next game that actually their goal is good, they were just going to abuse it (might not be completely accurate, going off 10+ year old memories)

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#44  Edited By irrelevantjohn

Fire Emblem Fates' Kaze moment. I won't spoil but damn that was stupid.

You know what? That whole game was stupid.

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Not an rpg, but the wife-arm reveal from the 2009 release of Bionic Commando will always be the dumbest story moment in a video game.

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The end of Deus Ex Human Revolution

Actually, thinking back, Deus Ex itself had some really fucking stupid parts that gives any JRPG a run for its money.

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But then again, MGSV had rape.

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@iodine said:

This thread became the FF highlight factory real quick lol.

The ending of the original Golden Sun was pretty damn dumb, as the main villains end up fusing into a two headed dragon you have to kill, only to find out in the next game that actually their goal is good, they were just going to abuse it (might not be completely accurate, going off 10+ year old memories)

I wouldn't say the "stopping villains from accomplishing an evil plan that turns out was addressing a greater world problem the protagonists weren't aware of" bit is actually that dumb inherently.

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#49  Edited By Error52

@katpottz: It's also kind of brilliant. Nobody thinks about sealing spirits in a tree from the tree's perspective.

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@efesell: this the worst... but also the best if we're being honest. It was so dumb I couldn't help but love it.