Listening to some old Bombcasts, I was reminded of how confused and frustrated I was by the staff's response to the multiplayer modes in GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I can understand not having a ton of fun in it, but they spoke about both like they did about Metal Gear Online. Which seems silly, because the multiplayer in both Red Dead Redemption and GTA IV seems to accomplish what it goes for, and is also a hell of a lot of fun, if you don't just get into a random match full of assholes randomly killing you.
Sure, they could have been better, there could have been more structure to make it more "cooperative" in an interesting way, or more structured deathmatch. But I loved the hell out of the multiplayer in both of those games, especially GTA IV, which I still play with buddies today. It's just fun to go in and dick around a bunch, getting in trouble with the cops, taking advantage of the swing set glitch, and blowing up each other's helicopters as we tried to take off. I don't think it's much fun to just go in for some deathmatch action, mostly just because the world is too big, and the combat not really interesting enough, and feels really awful on a gamepad (PC controls make the shooting way more tolerant, unsurprisingly). But if you just mess around with the "open world-ness" of the game, especially with at least a few guys in the game being buddies and on voice, it's pretty awesome.
How does the community weigh in on this? Are you for or against the multiplayer in those games?