When will Giantbomb switch to HTML5?

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#1  Edited By sorryawkward
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#3  Edited By Akeldama

im fine with the way it is

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#4  Edited By breadfan

We need it now! ...whatever that is.

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#5  Edited By Alexander

Considering Youtube have just implemented it in Beta - and it's janky, I don't think they're working on it now.
 
I'm not too clear on the advantages myself, I haven't had a problem with flash in HD Youtube.

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#6  Edited By sorryawkward

HTML5 lets you do video and interactive video without a plugin. It makes Flash, Silverlight, and Gears somewhat obsolete. (Which is why Google shut down gears).
I really hope the answer is A. FYI  Youtube is already running HTML5 in beta. For all you webgeeks, check it out. IMO HTML5 is the greatest innovation since RoR. 

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#7  Edited By Jeust

From  Wikipedia  
 

"Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML5 specification, expects the specification to reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012, and W3C Recommendation in the year 2022 or later. However, many parts of the specification are stable and may be implemented in products:

Some sections are already relatively stable and there are implementations that are already quite close to completion, and those features can be used today (e.g. <canvas>).

     

 
So don't expect any real work on it any time soon.   
 
They will probably work on it when it is stable. Because earlier, is asking for trouble.
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#8  Edited By AndrewB

When the HTML 5 standard has been finalized.

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#9  Edited By Willy105

HTML5 is all the benefits and features of Flash without needing to install Flash.

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#10  Edited By jkz

When HTML5 becomes the standard

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#11  Edited By Dalai

And to think I was getting so used to HTML4. 
 
What are we talking about?

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#12  Edited By Computerplayer1

Did we go through HTML 1-4? This is madness!

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#13  Edited By MrKlorox
@Willy105 said:

" HTML5 is all the benefits and features of Flash without needing to install Flash. "

Including GPU hardware acceleration for videos?
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#14  Edited By Cazamalos

i think this is way too ridiculous, is like asking:
 

" When SONY will Launch the HVD add on ?"

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#15  Edited By Red12b
@Computerplayer1 said:

"Did we go through HTML 1-4? This is madness! "


No, it's patrick. 
 
Wait... I think I have that wrong.
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#16  Edited By JJOR64

Dave is probably thinking "Fuck..............".

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#17  Edited By Willy105
@MrKlorox said:
" @Willy105 said:

" HTML5 is all the benefits and features of Flash without needing to install Flash. "

Including GPU hardware acceleration for videos? "
The what?
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#18  Edited By FLStyle

What happened to HTML 2, 3 and 4? How long have we been numbering different versions of HTML? Since when are there different versions of HTML?

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#19  Edited By MrKlorox
@Willy105 said:
" @MrKlorox said:
" @Willy105 said:

" HTML5 is all the benefits and features of Flash without needing to install Flash. "

Including GPU hardware acceleration for videos? "
The what? "
Flash 10.1 will support hardware accelerated H.264 video decoding. Just curious about HTML5.
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#20  Edited By iam3green

what the hell is HTML5? i have never heard of that and i have taken a web design class. crazy stuff right there man.

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#21  Edited By Andorski

I know <font>, <img>, and <iframe>.  Two more html tags and I'll be at HTML5!

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#22  Edited By Branthog

This is really a ridiculous and kind of pointless question and you don't "switch to HTML 5", though you may use certain functionality introduced in it. As you're presenting the question, you'd think it's like "when are you going to update your PS3 firmware". And what do you mean "when IE has it". You don't "have it". You either support it or you don't. And knowing MSIE's record, the answer to that is probably "never, they'll continue to push stupid proprietary bullshit and completely break the web".
 
It sounds to be like the original poster read a blurb somewhere about "HTML 5" and doesn't really have a clue WTF is going on.

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#23  Edited By Branthog
@sorryawkward said:
" IMO HTML5 is the greatest innovation since RoR.  "
And with that, anything you say can now reliably be dismissed as lacking credibility (though, at least, you didn't say "PHP").
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#24  Edited By Hamst3r
@Branthog said:
"As you're presenting the question, you'd think it's like "when are you going to update your PS3 firmware". "
So...when are you?
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#25  Edited By zero_

I would love a Flash-less OGG-based video set up on GiantBomb.

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#26  Edited By SeriouslyNow
@Branthog said:

" This is really a ridiculous and kind of pointless question and you don't "switch to HTML 5", though you may use certain functionality introduced in it. As you're presenting the question, you'd think it's like "when are you going to update your PS3 firmware". And what do you mean "when IE has it". You don't "have it". You either support it or you don't. And knowing MSIE's record, the answer to that is probably "never, they'll continue to push stupid proprietary bullshit and completely break the web".  It sounds to be like the original poster read a blurb somewhere about "HTML 5" and doesn't really have a clue WTF is going on. "

HUH?
 
Each revision of HTML has waypoints as version numbers to define that various tags, rules and techniques of application both server and client side have been ratified into a cohesive whole.  
 
This is HTML 5.
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#27  Edited By Branthog

I know what the fuck HTML 5 is. I was, afterall, an engineer for a little company known as Netscape. But asking (especially prior to full standardization) "when is this site going to switch to HTML 5" is kind of meaningless. Some things are obsoleted and others are introduced. You may use some of those new elements as support for them client and server side appears, but asking "when are you going to switch to HTML 5?" is a really vague and almost empty question. I'm an engineer; not a web designer, but I highly suspect that with little or no changes to the site (and without utilizing anything new that is introduced in HTML 5), the site could still entirely meet the requirements of HTML 5 validation whenever it's finalized.
 
So again, saying "when is it going to switch to HTML 5?" pretty much doesn't mean anything.
 
Now, if the guy had said something like "are there any plans for Giantbomb to utilize some of the HTML 5 video playing capabilities instead of or in addition to the flash interface in the near future?" - that would actually mean something.
 
Edit: Throwing fuck into the first sentence probably made that seem way more hostile than I meant it to. Sorry. :)

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#28  Edited By Branthog
@Zero_ said:
" I would love a Flash-less OGG-based video set up on GiantBomb. "
Agreed, but I don't really know what the internal drive or affinity for OSS is at Giant Bomb / Whiskey. I'd like to be wrong, but I doubt they have an interest in the extra work to develop and maintain a separate interface for a pending standard that is a long way from having robust support in primary browser clients and even farther away from seeing widespread adoption by the userbase who tends to upgrade once every decade. 
 
Personally, however, it can't happen soon enough and I'd love to see all the major sites make the switch.
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#30  Edited By JJWeatherman
Top, men! (AKA: Dave)
 
No, I'm fine with the way things are. Now adding new exciting and important site features, that's what I want.
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#31  Edited By Daryl

Whatever. *clicks on video*

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#32  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

I think Giant Bomb are very far from a time where people will be coming to the site and raging over the fact that you actually have to have flash to watch videos.

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#33  Edited By Branthog
@buckybit said:
" @Branthog:  thanks for making this ridiculous thread somewhat enjoyable. Most of the times I successfully avoid doing the lecturing myself. I never know if I have to start with: "A long time ago ..."  From outside - as a simple user, I see two things: understaffed and covered with too much work = Giantbomb.  What I personally would really love to see is a better comment system.   Usually the "bury the comments"-Gamespot approach they keep is ok ("Let the Duders bitch and forget about it"). But I often see interesting comments and sometimes even discussions I would like to follow, without having to search for it, making 1982 telnet BBS a superior system? This would be another thread. "
I'd really like to see the comment/forum system improved, too. The common "use search before posting something!" whine is less applicable here, because the search functionality and the way all the forums are arraanged makes things so incredibly difficult. I'm also not a big fan of the quote system (I'm more a fan of nested threads, though I can see the aesthetic reason why they'd choose the current layout). More than anything, I hate how hard it is to find someone's comment in a thread. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. "So and so replied to your post in the blah blah thread" and it just takes you back to a random point in the thread and you have to sort through page after page after page looking for the comment that was in reply to yours.
 
I think a lot of these things will slowly be improved over time -- but with limited staff and (probably) limited revenue, they have to focus their resources on elements that are likely to draw the greatest return on the investment. The video system (though using flash - ugh) works. So that seems like something on the bottom of their list right now. However, if they ever read this, I would LOVE to be able to pause videos by pressing the space bar, instead of having to fumble for the mouse and press the little pause button. :P
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#34  Edited By ReaperOfLiving

We don't even have signatures and you people want a new Video program.  tsk tsk.

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#35  Edited By zero_
@buckybit said:
" @Branthog:  thanks for making this ridiculous thread somewhat enjoyable. Most of the times I successfully avoid doing the lecturing myself. I never know if I have to start with: "A long time ago ..."  From outside - as a simple user, I see two things: understaffed and covered with too much work = Giantbomb.  What I personally would really love to see is a better comment system.   Usually the "bury the comments"-Gamespot approach they keep is ok ("Let the Duders bitch and forget about it"). But I often see interesting comments and sometimes even discussions I would like to follow, without having to search for it, making 1982 telnet BBS a superior system? This would be another thread. "

Definitely, but I think Giant Bomb and Whiskey Media are aware of that problem so that's one reason why Giant Bomb doesn't review every single game that's come out nor do they even have daily content.

But the commenting system? GiantBomb doesn't have that +/- system?


@Branthog said:

" @Zero_ said:
" I would love a Flash-less OGG-based video set up on GiantBomb. "
Agreed, but I don't really know what the internal drive or affinity for OSS is at Giant Bomb / Whiskey. I'd like to be wrong, but I doubt they have an interest in the extra work to develop and maintain a separate interface for a pending standard that is a long way from having robust support in primary browser clients and even farther away from seeing widespread adoption by the userbase who tends to upgrade once every decade.   Personally, however, it can't happen soon enough and I'd love to see all the major sites make the switch. "
That's true. It's just another one of those nice things to have. Even if they did implement it, more than half the user base wouldn't notice anything different anyway.
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#36  Edited By ReaperOfLiving
@dcpc10:  Ok, but it still annoys me that I go to PlayStation.com and see all these cool signatures on the forums and I can't put any on my favorite gaming site. ;(
 
Anyway enough of me and my rambling.  
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#37  Edited By megalowho
@AndrewB said:
" When the HTML 5 standard has been finalized. "
^ This, if it happens. Why make things more complicated beforehand? Though I can think of some super funky front page customization options if Whiskey Media ever does decide to go that route, so I'm definitely in favor of it.
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#38  Edited By Qorious
@AndrewB said:
" When the HTML 5 standard has been finalized. "
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#39  Edited By stevemanu

The site's videos are now html 5. 
I just tried they work on my iPhone

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#40  Edited By JonathanMoore

Flash forever bitches. HTML5 has too many issues. Early days man, early days.

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#41  Edited By onarum

seriously, I don't think that's important at all...
 
So yeah, running videos without plugins, so what? what's the benefit? there will still be thousands of ads and games in flash for people to experience, so they will still have the plug-ins installed anyway, so why change now? 
 
The effort they would have to invest in the technology migration would in no way be justified by the ability to run videos without the need of a plug-in that will be there anyway for at least 90% of the users...

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#42  Edited By ProfessorEss

 @buckybit said:

From outside - as a simple user, I see two things: understaffed and covered with too much work = Giantbomb.

Yeah, leaves me curious if they have even had much time to look into it, let alone implement it.
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#43  Edited By MooseyMcMan

GiantBomb is so awesome they're going straight to HTML 6. 

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#44  Edited By chogi

if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
the iphone/ipad versions of the site is running on html5 btw so could do it if they wanted to.

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#45  Edited By zanzibarbreeze

I really don't think it's for the community to decide when HTML5 will be implemented.