Whenever I see someone diss videogames, I show them this...

You know the type, the ones that will pretty much diss videogames for anything they even try to do. whether it be story or acting to just acting like a jerk to a great medium doing great things, I think we have seen them online. but here is one of the many vids I show them to prove them wrong. This one is from the game onimusha 3, and honestly, is amazing in what it does, I think it is one of the few creative ideas out there that actually have actors pretty much speak in every imaginable language possible in one work. Included inside is JEAN RENO!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8L34rvLOxY

this next one I will show you a before and after of.

before the making of video of onimusha 3's intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6G8wWzE-E&feature=related  

After all that work, arguably one of the best intro movies of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNNqHxiEuTQ  

0_0, If that isn't amazing, I do not know what is, espically considering, even though most of that was new at the time, that it has become HARDER to do those things with the graphics we have today. Also considering the fact that it probably took about every single worker there 296 (two weeks) hours EACH just do texture all that, imagine newer videogames like God of War 3 today. or hell, the first game itself is amazing, look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_tWNiDwNt4  

I use these to help prove, once and for all, what these guys do is serious and should be taken seriously, saying otherwise is basically a slap in the face of every single devoloper out there. Just look at a couple of these vids.

Hell, this next video is a making of, of a work of damn art that should be respected. Shadow of the colossus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSrMKC-3MX4    

Or even Hideo Kojima's works. (to be quite honest, I do not care if I get trolled for this, but hideo makes better stories then anything hollywood can do anymore, the guy is like... Stephen King of videogames in my honest opinion, he knows what the hell he is doing if this next video is of any value, somewhat more because stephen king isn't that great at endings while Kojima definitly does know what an ending should be like, but I can go hours into said subject, and will not bore anyone, except with another video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiXFr0hMbYM  )

Just the above videos alone should tell you that videogames are serious business nowadays, and honestly, should be taken seriously just for the fact that it is now making more money, and more views then the movie industry nowadays. Also for the fact that the writing, in my opinion, is honestly better then anything hollywood has tried in a very long time, or, well even thought about risking. (smurf movie is coming out... with rapping smurfs... in new york... yeah, my rage for the movie industry has reached it's limits due to said stupidity of what I just said that I will never try to repeat those freaking words again.)

Also consider how hard it is to make a videogame compared to a movie. A movie just has to have a writer and director and actors to get things rolling. while videogames need, programmers, mo-cap dudes/dudettes and voice overs, along with disign makers for the gameplay and story, script writers. AI writers texture makers and so on, it takes about 10 to 20 people to make a indy movie while many arcade and indie titles are either from 1 to 40 (alan wake was made by 40 people actually, just a fun fact.) Also the fact that time and polishing a videogame is SO DAMN LONG like in alan wakes case of 5 years, a movie can take just one or two months to make. just showing you the sheer determination of those 40 dudes.

To be quite honest, videogame and their makers deserve WAY more respect then they have been given. Thankfully, with the smithsionan finally recignizing videogames as an art form. And the grammy's for giving civilization a grammy (although, personally, why the hell didn't they see other games like the FF series music or even stuff like Still Alive is bullcrap worthy imo.) while the Trebica movie festival is giving a spotlight for L.A noire! The time for being a videogamer is an amazing one. We just need to get people to see the hard and amazing work that these devs do constantly. then maybe their would hopefully be way less annoying Roger Eberts in the world. (I will go no further into that topic.)

Thank you very much if you read through and watched all those videos. Please give your insight on how people should view videogames nowadays.

PS: Why the hell don't more videogames start making making of videogames come with the games like the God of war series or valves series do? I honestly love seeing these and watching how they did all the stuff to make their games. More devs should do that. anyone agree with me on this at least?

I used to like videogames but now I don't thanks to you

Who cares if somebody doesn't respect video games?  I play video games, I enjoy them.  I don't need anybody else to like/understand/respect them.

what i show them is my shotgun

I just show them my penis.

I just show them two of these and walk away.

Also trying proving that video games are serious business by showing them how they made the movies for them doesn't help your point at all.

VIDEO GAMES

Its just something you have to deal with. My grandma, who is normally very kind and sweet, calls video games stupid junk and a waste of time. Now if I wanted I could go into a crazy retaliation about how Fox News, which she watches almost religiously, is also stupid junk and a waste of time. Doing so would be pointless because you can't change somebody's mind when they are hardwired into that way of thinking. Its better to just ignore that person's opinion and take comfort in the fact that they are missing out on all the kick-ass things video games can offer.

You must be 15. If you're over 20, so sad

@Mr_Skeleton:

Not really, considering there are hundreds of ways to tell a story in a videogame, much more so then the movie industry can do. Let's put this into three catagories.

The Linear story, Like Enslaved. Which can still tell a great story through it's own gameplay and story. But set out to tell a story they wanted to craft. and it shows.

The second, is the linear interactive story which come also in two classes, the linear and the interactive, which one takes more of a roll in each game that has it?

MGS series takes the linear in the linear interactive storytelling method, a linear story which you can discover much more about with other charactors or through the surroundings as you go through the game and interacting with them. L.A. Noire is going to be similiar to MGS in this fashion.

While mass effect is more of the interactive side of the lines. Showing on how things can change throughout each time you play through it. but still have a singluar story for it for you to go through.

And the third is the interactive story, much like dragon age 1 and 2 and Fallout new vegas have. true interaction through each different time you play through them. whether it is dailouge choices or choices altogether, they each matter in the grand scheme of things, hell, in fallout new vegas's DLC dead money which I will not spoil. (for the fact that I am insanely confused how to use the spoiler marks on this site.)

But I gotta say, as a personal note, I LOVE the story of Dragon age 2, much better then the clichedness of the first one.

But these are the three main ways to tell a story in a videogame. all of which can be done in many ways themselves. whether that be Mass effect or MGS, each highly different in terms of story and storytelling, but still relitives. whether long lost, and not seen in a while, they still are related.

Every time I see someone praise Hideo Kojimas storytelling capabilities, I shiver.

VIDIEO GAMEZ

wat

@Hunkulese:

uhhh... what? Putting hard work into something does not make it good? That makes literally ZERO sense. So, Watchmen the graphic novel is not good because someone worked hard on it? Ray Bradbury's books aren't good because he works hard? the guys who made inception are not good because they worked hard for everything in that movie? And Ken Levine is not good at what he does for bioshock because he works hard?

That makes literally zero sense! see what I mean when I say this? If  videogame takes 5 years of harder then hell work to create, why the hell shouldn't they be respected for once! I mean, it is just bullcrap in terms of logic. If someone came up to you after you singlehandedly built the empire state building and said you aren't good at what you do. I honestly think that is one of the most disrespectful things a human being can do. and videogame creators are CONSTANTLY told they are inferior and should be trashed by everyone except their fans. Why the hell would anyone limit the creative freedoms the videogames have had? It is morally wrong and unjust on so many levels. In my opinion anyway.

I just show them Big Rigs, then they understand why video games are so good.

@oysteinBrenne:

Gotta admit, Adam Sesslar is a very good ally for videogaming, he tore Jack Thompson apart in that. That man is literally insane. I think personally... does he even do anything now that he got disbarred?

Edit: wait, the hell? did you change it just because you know that Jack Thompson was insane, but instead chose to show an insane kid killing the other? You do realize stuff like this happens ALL THE TIME right? Hell, I remember a guy actually thought he was in the matrix and jumped off a building.(not joking.) so are movies at fault to? or was the guy just insane? yeah the latter just is better for the fact that it happens all the time.

@JasonR86:

Because when people put their heart and soul into a creation, only to be called **** constantly is literally heartbreaking and it shouldn't be tolerated anymore when they create masterpieces like bioshock and half life 2 to legend of zelda ocarina of time. it is sheer ignorance it happens nowadays. espically considering videogames are much more popular then movies anymore, to the point where movies will actually pull their own movies back for a videogames release date.

That alone shows videogames have become a much bigger medium then the movie industry has in all honesty, and it deserves respect right here right now. I think it is time to stop with the crap and start demanding respect instead of being talked down and called stupid constantly by people who haven't even played a casual game like Jack Thompson.

@easthill:

It was half assed, everyone knew that one. But still does that make Watchmen/Farenheit 451/Inception/bioshock bad for being worked hard on?

The proof is in the pudding guyz

" The proof is in the pudding guyz "

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@easthill:

It was half assed, everyone knew that one. But still does that make Watchmen/Farenheit 451/Inception/bioshock bad for being worked hard on?

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Whenever someone talks about people dissing video games I show them this. 

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@Hunkulese:

uhhh... what? Putting hard work into something does not make it good? That makes literally ZERO sense. So, Watchmen the graphic novel is not good because someone worked hard on it? Ray Bradbury's books aren't good because he works hard? the guys who made inception are not good because they worked hard for everything in that movie? And Ken Levine is not good at what he does for bioshock because he works hard?

 

That makes literally zero sense! see what I mean when I say this? If  videogame takes 5 years of harder then hell work to create, why the hell shouldn't they be respected for once! I mean, it is just bullcrap in terms of logic. If someone came up to you after you singlehandedly built the empire state building and said you aren't good at what you do. I honestly think that is one of the most disrespectful things a human being can do. and videogame creators are CONSTANTLY told they are inferior and should be trashed by everyone except their fans. Why the hell would anyone limit the creative freedoms the videogames have had? It is morally wrong and unjust on so many levels. In my opinion anyway.

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Any time someone praises Hideo Kojima for writing, I know to never take anything they say seriously. The fact that you compare the guy to Stephen King of all people says to me that you are not all that familiar with literature. Though I guess a comparison could be made, if you focus on the fact that both of them wrote terrible, terrible endings to an established and beloved franchise.

" Any time someone praises Hideo Kojima for writing, I know to never take anything they say seriously. The fact that you compare the guy to Stephen King of all people says to me that you are not all that familiar with literature. Though I guess a comparison could be made, if you focus on the fact that both of them wrote terrible, terrible endings to an established and beloved franchise. "

Who cares if someone don't like video games, maybe its just not for them.  Just like I don't like dancing.

I show them this:

 

I'm a lifelong gamer and I've spent 10s of thousands of dollars on the hobby, but the older the industry gets, the LESS respect I feel it deserves.

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Everytime I hear somebody say Zelda has a "great story" I weep a little for our collective civilization.

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" Any time someone praises Hideo Kojima for writing, I know to never take anything they say seriously. The fact that you compare the guy to Stephen King of all people says to me that you are not all that familiar with literature. Though I guess a comparison could be made, if you focus on the fact that both of them wrote terrible, terrible endings to an established and beloved franchise. "

"I think it is one of the few creative ideas out there that actually have actors pretty much speak in every imaginable language possible in one work.

@DystopiaX:

What? It's so damn simple to pay attention to the story. it makes complete sense also. Just takes paying attention to it. It is literally that simple. And you could easily piece EVERYING together. easier then hell.

Hell, they even have MESSAGES in them, something that action movies never had... ever. and MGS has some really good messages to it too, involving the fact that your genitics don't make you, you. to deciding what you will pass down to your children. whether good or bad. Honestly, I think the series was to ahead of time, gamers haven't grown up enough for it back then, and many still aren't now. (IMO flameshield!)

pretty dope videos 

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Everytime I hear somebody say Zelda has a "great story" I weep a little for our collective civilization.

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When has anyone on Earth ever said that? "

I'm not reading that poorly formatted wall of text. Nor will I click those links, because I have no idea what sorts of videos will be on the other side.

Can you please summarize it for me?

" Please give your insight on how people should view videogames nowadays. "

@JazGalaxy:

It's actually pretty deep actually, just look at the lore of the land of hyrule, and honestly, majora's mask has an amazing story, insanely depressing once you search throughout the world. now the handhelds are LAME but the main titles are pretty heavy on story.

" I'm not reading that poorly formatted wall of text. Nor will I click those links, because I have no idea what sorts of videos will be on the other side .Can you please summarize it for me? "

"VIDIEO GAMEZ"

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@JazGalaxy:

It's actually pretty deep actually, just look at the lore of the land of hyrule, and honestly, majora's mask has an amazing story, insanely depressing once you search throughout the world. now the handhelds are LAME but the main titles are pretty heavy on story.

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