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#51  Edited By Phished0ne
I have no problem with the concept of tipping but i do have a problem with servers who feel that tipping is mandatory... 
 A TIp is a gratuity i give you for doing a good or exemplary job, its not a hand-out you get for free because your an aspiring (insert profession here) that cant get a decent day-job.
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#52  Edited By NathHaw
@Phished0ne said:
" I have no problem with the concept of tipping but i do have a problem with servers who feel that tipping is mandatory...  A TIp is a gratuity i give you for doing a good or exemplary job, its not a hand-out you get for free because your an aspiring (insert profession here) that cant get a decent day-job. "
What about the people who wait tables as their selected career?
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#53  Edited By trophyhunter

I don't like it when you have to tip multiple people. 
The waiter gets a tip because they did some something.
 Sometimes you have to tip the host, when all they did is point to a table and say "you can sit there if you want." That is not cool

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#54  Edited By ch13696
@RJay_64: Dude, are you kidding me? Their hourly wage is to do whatever their boss tells them to do. Your tip is for their service. Like how well they treat you. But, the one thing I do disagree on is tipping 10%-20% of the bill. Sometimes I get an ass hole waiter but they want me to tip them a shit load of money? Forget it.
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Technically bushiness have to make up the difference if someone is not making minimum wage with tips, mostly they just fire people though. Also it should be pointed out that at a lot of restaurants your tip does not go solely to the server, tips are pooled at the end of the night and some goes to servers, some to the bar and some to the back of the house. My minimum is 15% with 20% for outstanding service, but I know a lot of people in the service industry so it's an empathy thing mostly.

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#56  Edited By crusader8463

I agree with what's his name on the Reservoir Dogs scene that I'm sure has been posted dozens of times already. I understand it's a tough job and all, but... ya just watch that clip. He says everything I could type out here. That said I will drop a loonie on the way out, but if it was a very busy time that I was in there yet the waitress still managed to give good service then I will add a toonie or a toonie and an extra loonie to it.

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#57  Edited By Phished0ne
@Bloviator:  They're fucked. 
 
But seriously, its horribly rude to expect a tip.  Dont like what you get payed? find a better job, end of discussion.  Im a freelance graphic designer, so your sob stories about how hard it is in the service industry will get no tears from me. At least your guaranteed a check at the end of your pay-period.
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#58  Edited By Majkiboy
@Phished0ne said:

" I have no problem with the concept of tipping but i do have a problem with servers who feel that tipping is mandatory...  A TIp is a gratuity i give you for doing a good or exemplary job, its not a hand-out you get for free because your an aspiring (insert profession here) that cant get a decent day-job. "

@ch13696 said:

" @RJay_64: Dude, are you kidding me? Their hourly wage is to do whatever their boss tells them to do. Your tip is for their service. Like how well they treat you. But, the one thing I do disagree on is tipping 10%-20% of the bill. Sometimes I get an ass hole waiter but they want me to tip them a shit load of money? Forget it. "

I hear ya!
 
FYI: Tipping is not very common in my country, I tip only if they do an awesome job. The workers here do get nice salaries, so I guess that's one aspect of it.The almost forced tipping is weird when they do a shitty job as a recent visit to T.G.I. F showed me. 
And the last time I was in UK made me aware of the weird "forced" tipping.. they fucking tip you "AUTOMATICALLY"... on the receipt. 
 

Why don't they just make the food cost like 1% more if the salaries is the issue here??

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#59  Edited By JokerSmilez
@AlwaysAngry said:
" What? No...   You cheap bastards. "
Agreed.
 
Waiters and waitresses are underpaid with the idea that they will be tipped. Don't be cheap.
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#60  Edited By ryanwho

I think anyone who's ever worked in the service industry or understands how it works at all is going to tip. If you don't tip, you're either clueless or an asshole.

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#61  Edited By SirPsychoSexy
@Majkiboy said:
" @Phished0ne said:

" I have no problem with the concept of tipping but i do have a problem with servers who feel that tipping is mandatory...  A TIp is a gratuity i give you for doing a good or exemplary job, its not a hand-out you get for free because your an aspiring (insert profession here) that cant get a decent day-job. "

@ch13696 said:

" @RJay_64: Dude, are you kidding me? Their hourly wage is to do whatever their boss tells them to do. Your tip is for their service. Like how well they treat you. But, the one thing I do disagree on is tipping 10%-20% of the bill. Sometimes I get an ass hole waiter but they want me to tip them a shit load of money? Forget it. "

I hear ya!
 
FYI: Tipping is not very common in my country, I tip only if they do an awesome job. The workers here do get nice salaries, so I guess that's one aspect of it.The almost forced tipping is weird when they do a shitty job as a recent visit to T.G.I. F showed me. 
And the last time I was in UK made me aware of the weird "forced" tipping.. they fucking tip you "AUTOMATICALLY"... on the receipt. 
 

Why don't they just make the food cost like 1% more if the salaries is the issue here??

"
Because then the service would be shit, whether they have great or poor service they would get paid the same. There is no incentive.
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#62  Edited By Azteck

It's kinda weird. It's basically an allowed form of paying for things under the table.

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#63  Edited By Origina1Penguin

 Tip for better service
 Tip for better service
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#64  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

Waiters and waitresses often do a hard job with little pay, it seems like a nice little gesture to tip them.

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#65  Edited By nukesniper
@Metalideth said:
" Always tip, those waitresses get paid shit, they make their living on their tip. I always tip AT LEAST 30% "
Yeah, I'm a person who tips a bit over the %15 that is deemed standard, but that is because they usually are paid and then deducted for the tips that the restaurant assumes they get. So if no one tipped a waiter that person would be losing money from what he is actually paid. 
 
If the situation were different, or I'm somewhere where the person doesn't EXPECT a tip, then I only give them when the person deserves a tip
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#66  Edited By ryanwho
@Azteck said:

" It's kinda weird. It's basically an allowed form of paying for things under the table. "

You're insuring priority.  Nothing seedy about it. Now if you were tipping before your meal, that would be a different story. And rich fuckers do that Im sure.
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#67  Edited By Qorious

I tip if the waiter does a good job. If not, then no. You don't deserve it so don't even ask why I'm not leaving a tip for you. :)

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#68  Edited By NathHaw
@Azteck said:
" It's kinda weird. It's basically an allowed form of paying for things under the table. "
Depends on what the server does with the money.  They are expected to report all earnings, but that doesn't typically happen.  You're right for the most part.  I'm not sure I ever knew a server who reported all earnings.
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#69  Edited By phantomzxro

 
I'm fine with tipping its a great way to show that you got great service and to get great service in the future.

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#70  Edited By Karmum
@RJay_64 said:
" Sometimes I tip.  But I mean they are already getting paid an hourly wage.  I feel like I'm tipping someone to do a job he/she's already being paid for.  What do you think? "
Yeah, but they're getting paid significantly less than a minimum hourly wage.
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#71  Edited By JackiJinx

Restaurant services, should tip the server something considering their wage in the US is always under minimum (some weird laws. Go figure), even if it's a penny (my grandpa did this a fair amount of extraordinarily crappy waitresses/waiters). What I've always found weird though is the practice to tip hairdressers. I've never understood it, but I'm been brought up to do it, so I do it. 

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#72  Edited By Origina1Penguin
@JackiJinx: I tip a barber way more than a waiter. I can get over crappy table service quickly, but a fucked up haircut will last a long time.
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#73  Edited By Metric_Outlaw

Most waiters and waitresses get paid below minimum wage. They are expected to make the rest in tips so yes you definately should tip.

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#74  Edited By Azteck
@Bloviator said:
" @Azteck said:
" It's kinda weird. It's basically an allowed form of paying for things under the table. "
Depends on what the server does with the money.  They are expected to report all earnings, but that doesn't typically happen.  You're right for the most part.  I'm not sure I ever knew a server who reported all earnings. "
That's the thing. Most servers who get a tip usually put it straight into their pocket, which is essentially paying under the table, which is illegal. Now I'm not saying that it shouldn't be allowed or anything. I just find it amusing.
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#75  Edited By Suicidal_SNiper

My friend makes about 30k a year just with his hourly wage as a waiter. With tips he makes about 60k a year.

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#76  Edited By NathHaw
@Suicidal_SNiper said:
" My friend makes about 30k a year just with his hourly wage as a waiter. With tips he makes about 60k a year. "
Where?
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#77  Edited By Majkiboy
@SirPsychoSexy said:

" @Majkiboy said:

" @Phished0ne said:

" I have no problem with the concept of tipping but i do have a problem with servers who feel that tipping is mandatory...  A TIp is a gratuity i give you for doing a good or exemplary job, its not a hand-out you get for free because your an aspiring (insert profession here) that cant get a decent day-job. "

@ch13696 said:

" @RJay_64: Dude, are you kidding me? Their hourly wage is to do whatever their boss tells them to do. Your tip is for their service. Like how well they treat you. But, the one thing I do disagree on is tipping 10%-20% of the bill. Sometimes I get an ass hole waiter but they want me to tip them a shit load of money? Forget it. "

I hear ya!
 
FYI: Tipping is not very common in my country, I tip only if they do an awesome job. The workers here do get nice salaries, so I guess that's one aspect of it.The almost forced tipping is weird when they do a shitty job as a recent visit to T.G.I. F showed me. 
And the last time I was in UK made me aware of the weird "forced" tipping.. they fucking tip you "AUTOMATICALLY"... on the receipt. 
 

Why don't they just make the food cost like 1% more if the salaries is the issue here??

"
Because then the service would be shit, whether they have great or poor service they would get paid the same. There is no incentive. "
More expensive food in this regard would mean better salaries,  if people would do a worse job because they get paid more.. then that's just very sad! I know I would feel more appreciated if i got paid more and not having to fucking suck up to people all the time, that should be mandatory anyways :P If you got a service job, then that's a part of your job, you should serve people, that is what you are paid for. Just sayin' ... in a perfect world there would be no tipps!
 
BTW: I did tipp all service workers whom served me on my last trip to the US! Mostly hotel staff/cleaners, because I know that they get paid like... nothing :(
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#78  Edited By SteamPunkJin

Employers will justify a lower wage (think Minimum!) based on the fact that they will be collecting tips. I've got lots of friends who work as Waitresses - tips are where the majority of their money comes in, don't be a dick, just tip.

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#79  Edited By TheDoorman

Waitresses make below minimum wage and if they provide good service and are friendly they deserve a tip.

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#80  Edited By lazyturtle
@Brunchies: The time to tip is usually after they've brought all of your food..so unless you plan to return, its moot. 
 
Personally I like tipping. It brings some personal accountability to the transaction. For example, at a restaurant, the waiter suggests a cheaper wine thats just as good than the one you choose...big tip. 
 
I used to work in a tipping industry..its annoying. Sometimes you work your ass off, do a great job and get crappy tips. Thats why people in the service industry don't like dealing with Europeans (sorry guys, but its true)..we know no matter how hard we work we aren't getting a tip. 
 The worst part of dealing with people whose culture doesn't include tipping, is that they don't know how to do it. For example I had a Japanese guy tip me $2 once. He then spent about 5 minutes tell me, my boss and several other people what a great job I had done (he was being sincere). I totally understand that him tipping me anything was a sign of his apprication..its just that $2 won't even buy a draft bud light at happy hour. Oh..for reference he had spend $140 on the service that I provided (SCUBA instruction). A reasonable tip for that would be between $5-20 (well below the conventional 20%). 
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#81  Edited By ozzdog12
@RJay_64: I think its okay,because they mostly deal with moronic degenerates all day
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#82  Edited By cooperfoyt
@RJay_64 said:
" Sometimes I tip.  But I mean they are already getting paid an hourly wage.  I feel like I'm tipping someone to do a job he/she's already being paid for.  What do you think? "
Actually most people who work for tips get paid much much below a standard minimum wage. Usually around 2 to 3 dollars per hour. The rest is usually left up to tips. 
 
Working in the food industry sucks, it's stressful, and you deal with about 100 assholes a day.  
 
You really should tip. 
 
Also sorry if this video was already posted: 
 
  
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#83  Edited By Organicalistic_
@RJay_64: I love tipping, i will provide you a pic of how i do it
 
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#84  Edited By StarFoxA

Waiters and waitresses are paid less than minimum wage, so tipping is completely normal. I typically tip around 20% or so.

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#85  Edited By raviolisumo

I tip too much. I don't like actually calculating the % like my friends and family do, so I just give them a bunch of bills.

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#86  Edited By RJay_64

Hmmm okay well maybe it is normal to tip a waitress then.
 
I would argue though that the system is broken if the employer is allowed to pay below minimum wage. 

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#87  Edited By RJay_64
@organicalistic_ said:
" @RJay_64: I love tipping, i will provide you a pic of how i do it
  "
poor cow
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#88  Edited By ArcLyte

i didn't know this until recently, but waiters and waitresses in the US make less than minimum wage hourly, so they rely on tips for a good amount of their income.

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#89  Edited By cooperfoyt
@RJay_64 said:
" Hmmm okay well maybe it is normal to tip a waitress then.  I would argue though that the system is broken if the employer is allowed to pay below minimum wage.  "
Not really a broken system. It's just a reaction to the observation that most people will tip a waitress or waiter. Gives the companies more money and help create more jobs!
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#90  Edited By MetalBaofu
@StarFoxA said:
" Waiters and waitresses are paid less than minimum wage, so tipping is completely normal. I typically tip around 20% or so. "
Personally, I think that's the problem.   They should HAVE to be paid at least minimum wage just like every job should be.   Which in turn would make the price for the food you order go up some, but that wouldn't matter if you wouldn't have to tip any more.  And, it would also eliminate the problem of people not tipping.
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#91  Edited By lazyturtle
@Wes899: Its pretty easy: take 10% and double it. 
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#92  Edited By DrPockets000
@AlwaysAngry said:

" What? No...   You cheap bastards. "

This.  Seriously.  Waitresses make far below minimum wage for a job that is much more strenuous than most jobs are that pay at or above minimum wage.  If she does well, I tip at least 40%-50%, which also ensures that I get better service next time.  It's a reciprocal system.  I thank her for service with a good time, after which she thanks me by going the extra mile for me, etc.
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#93  Edited By StarFoxA
@metalhead87: Unlikely, though, since restaurants would prefer to pay their employees less than to raise the price of the food and raise employees' wages.
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#94  Edited By MetalBaofu
@StarFoxA said:
" @metalhead87: Unlikely, though, since restaurants would prefer to pay their employees less than to raise the price of the food and raise employees' wages. "
What they prefer shouldn't matter.  They should have no choice but to pay employees, at least, minimum wage.
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#95  Edited By jonnyboy

I think the act of one industry barely paying their staff and then expect the public to do it strange.

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#96  Edited By cooperfoyt
@metalhead87 said:
" @StarFoxA said:
" @metalhead87: Unlikely, though, since restaurants would prefer to pay their employees less than to raise the price of the food and raise employees' wages. "
What they prefer shouldn't matter.  They should have no choice but to pay employees, at least, minimum wage. "
It's just a different kind of minimum wage. Obviously they have to prove to the state that their employees make a considerable amount in tips before they pay their employees the reduced wage. 
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#97  Edited By MetalBaofu
@cooperfoyt said:
" @metalhead87 said:
" @StarFoxA said:
" @metalhead87: Unlikely, though, since restaurants would prefer to pay their employees less than to raise the price of the food and raise employees' wages. "
What they prefer shouldn't matter.  They should have no choice but to pay employees, at least, minimum wage. "
It's just a different kind of minimum wage. Obviously they have to prove to the state that their employees make a considerable amount in tips before they pay their employees the reduced wage.  "
Yes I know that, but part of their minimum shouldn't HAVE to come from the customer.   It destroys the concept of a "tip," and turns it into an obligation.   I feel like I have to tip whether the service was good or if it was horrible, because I know they get paid shit.   I don't know....just seems like there has to be some better way for it to be handled.
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@jonnyboy said:
" I think the act of one industry barely paying their staff and then expect the public to do it strange. "
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#99  Edited By BASTONT

I was always told that if I can't afford tip I can't afford to eat at that restaurant. 

I got a free meal from a guy who owns a bar since I helped him set up some appliances, and I still tipped. 
 
Besides, people remember who tip well, and every time I go into that bar I get first call over all the cheap bastards waving their twenty's with no intent on leaving a single buck. Not to mention I get a little more Jack and a little less Coke :-)
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#100  Edited By sodiumCyclops

I tip on occasion. New Zealand doesn't really 'do' that kind of thing. Only in the really fancy places.